DMI XIII - The CTON

[berserks01]

Well, it's odd that I have a sorta builder set, but at least I took out 3 mini SODs while doing it Even if those sods consists of chariots, pults, a sword, and a spear without losing a single unit.

Learned a couple of techs

and Machinery will be online in 3 turns for some maces. After that, maybe calendar for some happiness. Though we did not get confusionism as someone beat us to it by a couple of turns. I also converted to Bureaucracy.

Some dude said we're 3rd in power

Founded a new city

And since it's almost christmas, built a present all wrapped up for the next player to have some fun with

I did manage to build markets in most cities to minimize costs. That stack should move out and generate some cash for us.

I did get a GG whom I have settled in our capital to churn at 9exp WE and Keshiks.

Also, there is a spear to the south of our stack hidden in shadows that you can't see on the screenies.

 

[GreyFox]

Impressive ... but in order for that someone to fully enjoy the Christmas present, I guess he will first need to be able to grab the save ...

 

[berserks01]

Typical ... you give someone a present, they ask for 2 presents

 

[Ozbenno]

Nice stack! Might have to get some markets and courthouses built to be able to afford moving it out! Are we intending on razing or capturing?

 

[berserks01]

As I've already reported, we now have markets in most of our cities. I haven't built any courthouses cuz maintainance isn't a problem yet.

 

[GreyFox]

Made a few micromanagement changes ... nothing much really to rave about. Just a bit worried abt our economy, once the stack moves out we would probably need to slide our research bar down a notch or two.

Meanwhile, let's research as much as we can:

We got Feudalism and someone built the GLH ... hmm at AD940???

Well, to go along with that, we learn Fishing

And Ramesses, totally oblivious to his impending doom, built the Parthenon (for us, I must add ).

There, first Carthage city fell, as we get Sailing and settled a city of our own:

While the computer's suggestion is good, I rather have the city start working on cows from day 1. Leptis was kept as well, since it is an okay location, and we want as many cities as possible to go for top score. If you had not understand the reason for Fishing and Sailing, it is for Calendar.

We can't keep adding MPs to advance the happy cap. Calendar now seems a good way to gain happiness as we have a few happy resources. Note also that the Egyptian is settling towards us, so be careful there, we will have to start adding defenders in the two southern cities.

My end turn, we got a scientist:

I suggest getting an academy up in our capitol.

I return the favor and stop before we attack Carthage. The defenders in the city are average:

and of course we have more than enough forces to take it. We definitely want to keep Carthage:

Hindu Holy City with Shrine, the brand new Parthenon, yummy! After that, I suggest splitting a small force to go after the city on the east, while the majority of the forces continue to sweep west.

Research wise, I chose metal casting after calendar. Suggest going for machinery.

I also have a settler ... suggest adding a city somewhere SW of New Sarai.

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[Ozbenno]

Excellent work GF!

Carthage is definately a keeper. A shrine is excellent, we should start some missionary spam. If we keep Carhatge, we may as well keep Utica.

Academy in capital (is it major beaker city?) seems a good idea as well.

Research wise, Machinery after MC looks like the obvious play.

 

[·Imhotep·]

Good stuff here! Hereby I'll officially announce that berserks from now on serves the Mongol Army under his new rank of "Drill Sergeant" . Impressive work with mustering that stack!


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[sunrise089]

Got it. Very nice set GreyFox.

 

[Atlas]

Statue of Zeus in Carthage too We definately want to control that

Very Nice Turn sets too

 

[sunrise089]

Guys, my internet at home (where my Civ PC is located) has been down all day. Assuming it's fixed tonight I'll play and post ASAP. If there are no turns within a few hours, consider me skipped due to technical issues.

 

[GreyFox]

@Atlas: SoZ is useless under human's hand in singleplayer, AFAIU (only human is vulnerable to SoZ, not AI), the only benefits is other AIs are denied using SoZ against us.

@Sunrise: ... pardon me, but you don't need internet connection to play

 

[Atlas]

the only benefits is other AIs are denied using SoZ against us.

Precisely and a substantial benefit in my opinion, especially on Emperor where WW (for the human) is not inconsequential

 

[berserks01]

@Sunrise: ... pardon me, but you don't need internet connection to play

No .... but I bet you need it to post the TS

 

[GreyFox]

@Atlas: true, however setting AW on offset that. It is still good to remove SoZ from play. It is the Shrine mostly that makes me drool, however

@berserks: as Sunrise can post that his Civ PC is out of internet connection, he has access. So, presumably, he can download the save, transfer to Civ PC with USB stick, play, transfer the save and screenshots back, and post. Unless ofcourse his internet PC is somehow USB disabled (eg office PC, internet cafe) ... but anyway, I am just trying to bump this thread with meaningless chatter while we wait

 

[Atlas]

It is still good to remove SoZ from play. It is the Shrine mostly that makes me drool, however

Yep

Athens looks tasty too......

 

[·Imhotep·]

Got it.

 

[·Imhotep·]

Good news first: Ramesses of Carthage is totally gassed, he'll be dead soon. Those were very pleasant 10 turns.

I built an Academy at our Cap, as it produces by far the most beakers.

MC came in, and I selected Machinery for Maces .

A blatant lie .

After some rounds of bombardement it was finally ours, at the cost of 4 Cats.

I settled a city "somewhere south of New Sarai".

Meditation detour (1 turn), we'll need the Monasteries for spreading Hinduism.

Machinery came in, and I selected Engineering next. The other choice was Guilds, but as our opponents have Elephants, it seemed not so attractive.

The next player can grab hold of Utica - forces are more than sufficient .

I've been assembling the beginning of a second stack in the northwest, the first Maces are on the way. After finishing Ramesses we should turn south I think and put some pressure on our next neighbor. The AI seems to get quite distracted with wonder whoring...

We got a GG. He is awaiting orders at our Cap.

Imhotep

Spoiler The Log :

Logging by BUG Mod 3.5 [Build 1457] (BtS 3.13-3.17)
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Turn 113/330 (1060 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:11:39]
Axeman promoted: Combat I

After End Turn:
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
Beshbalik finishes: Courthouse
A Village was built near Old Sarai
A Hamlet was built near Karakorum
Samarqand grows to size 2
Samarqand finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac (Holy Rome) towards Ramesses II (Carthage), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 114/330 (1080 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:15:03]
A Plantation was built near Beshbalik
Karakorum finishes: Academy
Karakorum begins: War Elephant (1 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Worker (3 turns)
Samarqand begins: Barracks (9 turns)
Samarqand begins: Monument (5 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech research finished: Metal Casting
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
Turfan grows to size 10
Turfan finishes: Catapult
Ning-hsia finishes: Catapult
Old Sarai finishes: Colosseum
A Hamlet was built near Old Sarai
New Sarai finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Cyrus (Greece) towards Huayna Capac (Holy Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Cyrus (Greece) towards Churchill (Aztec), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 115/330 (1100 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:18:36]
Research begun: Machinery (5 Turns)
Karakorum begins: Forge (2 turns)
Turfan begins: Catapult (4 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Forge (6 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Courthouse (9 turns)
New Sarai begins: Monument (5 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Old Sarai
Karakorum finishes: Forge
A Town was built near Beshbalik
Leptis finishes: Monument

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II (Carthage) towards Huayna Capac (Holy Rome), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Churchill (Aztec) towards Darius I (Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 116/330 (1120 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:21:23]
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Catapult loses to Carthaginian Swordsman (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 28.4%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Catapult loses to Carthaginian Swordsman (4.08/6) (Prob Victory: 28.4%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Catapult loses to Carthaginian Archer (2.64/3) (Prob Victory: 58.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Catapult loses to Carthaginian Archer (2.07/3) (Prob Victory: 58.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Catapult loses to Carthaginian Swordsman (2.22/6) (Prob Victory: 55.6%)
While attacking, Catapult decimates Carthaginian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 73.2%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Hamilcar Barca (4.16/8) defeats Carthaginian Spearman (Prob Victory: 96.1%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (4.64/8) defeats Carthaginian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
Michiel de Ruyter (Great General) born in Ning-hsia
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (8.00/8) defeats Carthaginian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (3.52/8) defeats Carthaginian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (6.88/8) defeats Carthaginian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (6.72/8) defeats Carthaginian Archer (Prob Victory: 98.5%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (3.44/8) defeats Carthaginian Spearman (Prob Victory: 96.4%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (6.56/8) defeats Carthaginian Spearman (Prob Victory: 96.6%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Horde II (6.00/6) defeats Carthaginian Numidian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Horde I (4.98/6) defeats Carthaginian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Keshik (4.68/6) defeats Carthaginian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Keshik (4.08/6) defeats Carthaginian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.3%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Keshik (6.00/6) defeats Carthaginian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, Keshik (6.00/6) defeats Carthaginian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Hinduism has spread: Carthage
Captured Carthage (Ramesses II)
Keshik promoted: Combat II
Horde I (Keshik) promoted: Combat III
Keshik promoted: Combat II
War Elephant promoted: Combat III
War Elephant promoted: Combat III
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
War Elephant promoted: Combat II
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
War Elephant promoted: Combat II
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
War Elephant promoted: Combat II
Tabriz founded
A Plantation was built near Turfan
Leptis begins: Granary (7 turns)
Carthage begins: Courthouse (81 turns)
Tabriz begins: Monument (10 turns)
Karakorum begins: War Elephant (1 turns)

After End Turn:
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
Beshbalik finishes: Worker
Ning-hsia grows to size 12
A Town was built near Ning-hsia
Old Sarai grows to size 11
A Hamlet was built near Old Sarai
Leptis's borders expand
Samarqand grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Cyrus (Greece) towards Huayna Capac (Holy Rome), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Churchill (Aztec) towards Darius I (Rome), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 117/330 (1140 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:28:26]
A Cottage was built near Samarqand
Karakorum begins: War Elephant (1 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Keshik (3 turns)
Research begun: Meditation (1 Turns)

After End Turn:
Tech research finished: Meditation
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
Turfan grows to size 11
Turfan finishes: Catapult
A Town was built near Turfan
A Hamlet was built near Turfan

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Carthaginian territory at Carthage, War Elephant loses to Carthaginian War Elephant (4.80/8) (Prob Victory: 50.2%)
Civics Change: Huayna Capac(Holy Rome) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Cyrus(Greece) from 'Paganism' to 'Theocracy'

Turn 118/330 (1160 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:30:26]
Research begun: Machinery (3 Turns)
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison II
While attacking in Mongolian territory at Carthage, War Elephant (6.64/8) defeats Carthaginian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 96.4%)
Karakorum begins: War Elephant (1 turns)
Turfan begins: Courthouse (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
A Village was built near Beshbalik
A Hamlet was built near Ning-hsia
A Town was built near Old Sarai
Samarqand grows to size 4
Samarqand finishes: Monument

Turn 119/330 (1180 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:32:46]
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison II
A Farm was built near Old Sarai
Karakorum begins: Aqueduct (2 turns)
Samarqand begins: Courthouse (16 turns)

After End Turn:
Karakorum finishes: Aqueduct
Beshbalik finishes: Keshik
A Village was built near Turfan
Ning-hsia finishes: Forge
A Village was built near Old Sarai
New Sarai grows to size 4
New Sarai finishes: Monument
Leptis grows to size 2
Leptis finishes: Granary

Turn 120/330 (1200 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:34:25]
Jumbo II (War Elephant) promoted: Combat I
Jumbo II (War Elephant) promoted: Combat II
A Farm was built near Beshbalik
Horde V (Keshik) promoted: Combat I
Horde V (Keshik) promoted: Combat II
While attacking in Mongolian territory at Beshbalik, Horde V (0.90/6) defeats Carthaginian Chariot (Prob Victory: 79.9%)
Karakorum begins: War Elephant (1 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Catapult (4 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Keshik (2 turns)
New Sarai begins: Courthouse (20 turns)
Leptis begins: Courthouse (27 turns)
Leptis begins: Hindu Monastery (14 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech research finished: Machinery
Karakorum finishes: War Elephant
A Hamlet was built near Turfan
Ning-hsia finishes: Keshik
A Town was built near Karakorum
Samarqand grows to size 5
Tabriz grows to size 2
Tabriz finishes: Monument

Turn 121/330 (1220 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:37:08]
Research begun: Engineering (6 Turns)
A Cottage was built near Samarqand
A Farm was built near Samarqand
Horde V (Keshik) promoted: Combat III
Karakorum begins: Maceman (1 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Maceman (2 turns)
Tabriz begins: Granary (10 turns)
Carthage begins: Library (10 turns)
Carthage begins: Monument (4 turns)
Carthage begins: Hindu Temple (9 turns)
Carthage begins: Hindu Monastery (7 turns)

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Carthage
Karakorum grows to size 13
Karakorum finishes: Maceman
Turfan grows to size 12
A Town was built near Turfan
Old Sarai grows to size 12
Carthage's borders expand
Carthage finishes: Monument

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac (Holy Rome) towards Churchill (Aztec), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Cyrus (Greece) towards Churchill (Aztec), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 122/330 (1240 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:39:44]
A Cottage was built near Old Sarai
Karakorum begins: Maceman (1 turns)

After End Turn:
Karakorum finishes: Maceman
Ning-hsia finishes: Maceman
Old Sarai finishes: Courthouse
Leptis grows to size 3
Samarqand grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Ramesses II(Carthage) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Willem van Oranje(Celtia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 123/330 (1260 AD) [19-Dec-2008 20:41:07]
Spearman promoted: Combat I
A Farm was built near Samarqand
A Cottage was built near Leptis
Karakorum begins: Maceman (1 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Maceman (2 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Maceman (5 turns)
Spearman promoted: Combat I
Spearman promoted: Combat II

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking: 16
Units victorious while defending: 0
Units withdrawing while attacking: 1
Units defeated while attacking: 5
Units defeated while defending: 1
Units escaping while attacking: 0

 

[·Imhotep·]

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[Atlas]

Sunrise.... get it together

I will take the game tomorrow, if i don't see a "got it" from Sunrise