does anyone deserve an eternity of suffering?

[Harbringer]

What if they screwed it up really really bad? Like instead of giving you extra cheese, they shot you?

Then they would go to hell for a thousand years, and then when its up and they get to heaven I would give them eternal suffering.

 

[Shadylookin]

I would say no, but most "loving and merciful" deities disagree

 

[warpus]

Surely suffering as a punishment is for the uncivilized.

 

[Perfection]

People who want special orders when I'm working at fast food do....

Well, maybe if you automatically used condiments in proper ratios you wouldn't be in this mess.

It's not my fault your sauce scheme is incompotent

What if they screwed it up really really bad? Like instead of giving you extra cheese, they shot you?

I'd take a bullet for the extra cheese.

 

[bhsup]

Toby will be more impressed if you can cite the quote.

Heh, that's a no-brainer. Little Bill (Hackman) right before he gets his head blown off by Will Mooney/Money/whatever (Eastwood ... From Missouri!!) in Unforgiven.

To answer the question of whether anyone really deserves it, that's not my call. Ask God for the real skinny on whether anyone really deserves it.

 

[classical_hero]

I would say no, but most "loving and merciful" deities disagree

If you reject what a loving and merciful deity provides, then you do deserve to suffer for it. Love and mercy onl goes to those who accept it, not to everyone.

 

[Trafalgar]

Being a mean and vindictive person who hates mankind and womenkind, and those-in-between-kind, I say yes. Let them burn in hell. Especially one particular girlfriend who cheated on me when she was on vacation. Burn, burn, burn.

 

[silver 2039]

Of course. I would like to see nothing more than Paris Hilton burn in hell for an eternity.

 

[Shadylookin]

If you reject what a loving and merciful deity provides, then you do deserve to suffer for it. Love and mercy onl goes to those who accept it, not to everyone.

what about forgiving your enemies? Your deity sounds rather psychotic. Like a man who puts a gun to your head and says "you have a choice to love me or I blow your brains out"

 

[Elrohir]

Does anyone really deserve an eternity of pain and suffering in hell? In my mind no, at the most I would sentence the most vile child rapists to a few thousand years of torment but never an eternity. IMO no one could ever commit such a crime as to deserve pain for the remainder of existance. Thoughts?

EDIT: Typo in the thread title, I appologize. Mod?

Hell is complete separation from God. (And thus, from everything truly good and beautiful and worthwhile) We all "deserve" this because we have chosen to separate ourselves from God by committing immoral acts. I don't claim to know what exact form hell will take, but I doubt it will be the traditional red cave with flames and a devil with a pitchfork.

The good news though, is that God is a merciful God, and won't send anyone there who doesn't choose to, and who doesn't reject His advances. I'm confident that no one will go to Hell who doesn't have to, and that everyone will be given as many chances as could possibly make a difference. I'm not sure if that means there could be chances after death, it's possible I suppose. But I wouldn't be my soul on it.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Does anyone really deserve an eternity of pain and suffering in hell? In my mind no, at the most I would sentence the most vile child rapists to a few thousand years of torment but never an eternity. IMO no one could ever commit such a crime as to deserve pain for the remainder of existance. Thoughts?

EDIT: Typo in the thread title, I appologize. Mod?

We are not the ones who decide who is deserving of eternal anything.

 

[AngryPinkMoose]

No unless they are really really bad! But still..to suffer for ever? No one deserves it.

 

[Nylan]

Does anyone really deserve an eternity of pain and suffering in hell? In my mind no, at the most I would sentence the most vile child rapists to a few thousand years of torment but never an eternity. IMO no one could ever commit such a crime as to deserve pain for the remainder of existance. Thoughts?

EDIT: Typo in the thread title, I appologize. Mod?

Well, my view of the afterlife is a bit less harsh than most, so I can't rightly say according to conventional standards. By mine, yes, but that is because everything is paid for in equal amount for its severity, and is not "unfair".

Any further questions should be directed to the "Ask a Mormon" thread

As for anyone specific, I won't judge anyone, so I can't name anyone. It's common knowledge that if anyone does, it would be Satan.

 

[GenMarshall]

People whom have done wrong doings in their lives should be punished however, eternal suffering is way too extrime for my tastes and the punishment seen in the afterlife should be temporary, not permanate.

 

[Nylan]

what about forgiving your enemies? Your deity sounds rather psychotic. Like a man who puts a gun to your head and says "you have a choice to love me or I blow your brains out"

Actually, its more of a man who is offering you a piece of bread, without which you will die. You don't have to take the bread, but you'll certainy be worse off without it.

 

[Elrohir]

Surely suffering as a punishment is for the uncivilized.

Don't you think going to prison for a long time is "suffering", in a form, even if it isn't physical pain?

Well, who says hell involves physical pain? Why couldn't it be entirely mental or spiritual anguish? (As portrayed well in C.S. Lewis' fantastic novel, the Great Divorce)

 

[emzie]

Don't you think going to prison for a long time is "suffering", in a form, even if it isn't physical pain?

Well, who says hell involves physical pain? Why couldn't it be entirely mental or spiritual anguish? (As portrayed well in C.S. Lewis' fantastic novel, the Great Divorce)

If Hell is separation from God, could those who truly wanted to reestablish that relationship ascend from Hell?

 

[mangxema]

Well, who says hell involves physical pain? Why couldn't it be entirely mental or spiritual anguish?

How about constantly being around a bunch of smug Christians who would constantly say "I told you there was an afterlife, but noooo... there wasn't any evidence of that, was there?" That would indeed be hellish.

Note: not directed at anyone in particular.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

If Hell is separation from God, could those who truly wanted to reestablish that relationship ascend from Hell?

Well, CS Lewis seemed to think so . . . he at least implied it in The Great Divorce, but suggested that the sort of people who sent themselves to hell would be the sort to be too prideful to want to leave.

As for me, I don't believe that anyone will suffer eternally (except the sons of perdition . . . and they will have willfully brought that punishment on themselves . . . and I will explain what that means, but not in this thread). The rest will either accept Christ's forgiveness, or have to suffer for their sins, but no divinely inflicted punishment will be eternal. But that doesn't mean there won't be eternal suffering, just that God won;t administer it; imagine Hitler being given basic human empathy and then having to deal with it for an eternity. Won't be pleasant.

 

[.Shane.]

But of course. Its from Unforgiven when our main protagonist Will shot Little Bill.

Nice!

I'm glad he got the bigtime recognition for Unforgiven, but I still prefer Josey Wales.