On what grounds do you take such a holier-than-thou stance? How much blood have you shed? Lets get a pipette and compare.
It's not a holier-than-thou stance. I'm not starting a "my credentials are bigger contest" (though you're doing a good job of trying to turn it into that, despite the fact I'd surely lose, insofar as it means anything). My point is that we're talking here on CFC. It doesn't matter one iota what you do outside of CFC, especially when you're throwing it around as heavily as you are all of a sudden.
Utter balls. I, unfortunately, was at the ground zero of the feminism/ trans debate. Guardian articles and all. And I've never mentioned it on here. I asked for moderation in debate. So yeah, tone policing in the way every person with any relation to public discourse polices tone. Every teacher, every police officer, every politician, every journalist, every moderator. Everyone who wants functional public discourse.
Clearly, asking for a civilised debate it a terrible sin.
Asking generally, to clear the air? Nothing wrong with that.
Getting mad at a trans poster because they're mad at something you haven't taken the time to understand? Yeah, sure, that's more on the "sin" side of things than not. Functional public discourse is left to the mods, right? The forum rules and all of that jazz.
? I wasn't having an argument. I was trying to pour oil on troubled waters. And again the hostile bulldroppings. I'm oppressing the LGBT community? I did let down the L's today, they invited me to go to Hastings Green Man, but I'm still getting over this covid nonsense. I'm confident of their white wine quaffing abilities in my absence. TBH one of them is Glaswegian. I'm not only confident in her white wine quaffing abilities, I'm terrified of it.
You're ignoring the matches, then. Lit matches, in some cases.
And I said nothing about oppression of any kind. You think you might want to, like, dial it back a bit? For someone with a real thing about functional debate, you really are being unnecessarily antagonistic.
There is nothing conditional about my "allyship". I find that a really weird way of looking at the world. Somers Town when I grew up was designated as the most probable location of a race riot in the uk. There was nothing conditional about any "allegiance", and far too much time visiting intensive care.
Tony Benn said the world was divided into weathervanes and signposts. I'm a signpost. If you want to make that accusation, you'd want to back that up. Hate me for what I am, for uncountable flaws and sins, but that is nonsense.
Again, I have no idea who you are in the real world, and I've already said I don't doubt your claims. When you're talking down to a trans person here (Cloud, to be clear), in the Dumpster Fire thread that has become CFC's 1,024th discussion on trans rights, talking about their
tone and how they need to be acting . . . that's conditional allyship. When you talk about being "alienated" on a web forum despite repeatedly talking up your RL credentials and what you've seen, what you've been through. And what, a bit of harsh language on the Internet puts you off?
Do you see why I'd perhaps view that a bit critically? Assuming good faith all round, for the record.
Nobody here is psychic. But for the record, it's defined in the dictionary as informal North American for a guy; a man. This is an international forum, this isn't your drinking buddies. Nobody here knows exactly what informal slang you're going to trot out. And in a thread involving trans posters, if someone says they're not a dude, you should
probably respect that.
I've written the last sentence a half-dozen times. Too much about me, too aggressive, too philosophical, too passive.
If it helps, I can relate to that.
In the end, sure, I don't know him. You dont know me.
If we settle at that and don't even try whats the point of this internet thing?
Cloud ain't a he. Or a him. I believe that was the entire point of her responding to "dude" the way she did, and why I attempted to explain it to you (fruitlessly, apparently).
