Here's a new game concept for you: play on this Earth map as any civilization you wish, at any difficulty, and post your result here. I will gather the results and make a list of the best players and civilizations based on statistical analysis.
This is something we've been doing at CivDuelZone, but I think the idea has now matured enough to start it here without start-up hitches.
See here the thread at CivDuelZone where it all started. But over there we only played at noble difficulty and normal speed. I have decided to leave that up to the players here now.
Some Civilizations are more difficult than others, so the results for tougher civilizations will be increased relatively. Vice versa: the difficulty of a civilization will be judged on results, so if a civilization is played by a someone who posted a bad result on another civilization, the result will be increased to compensate.
If a player plays the same civilization more than once, only the best result will count.
When you're done, please submit your results here.
Preferably you could also post your result (including screenshot) in this thread as notification to others.
Do note that Epic game speed is mandatory!
In the end we will have:
- A list of results.
- A list of the weighted average of players their results.
- A list of the weighted average of results per civilization.
Maya and Mongolia start at a slightly different place than is historically accurate, because otherwise they'd start just too close to another civ. Furthermore, the map's been tweaked and adapted many times, up to many details, to adjust for accurate climate, actual resources locations (although there are horses in America) and a fair start for all civilizations at least to some degree.
Start: two settlers, one warrior, one warrior or scout, one worker
Difficulty: selectable
Speed: epic
Victory type: all
Map size: huge
Options: pick religion, no tech trading, no vassal states
Overall weighted average group scores:
A 68215
B 260886
Note: the scores in the different groups are incomparable (yet). That is, the players played with different civilizations.
The average is the geometric average of the squared results. E.g. the average of 10000, 40000 and 67500 would be 3√(√10000 * √40000 * √67500)2 = 30000.
The weighted average is the average divided by the average of the corresponding civilization(s)/player(s). When things start to get complex I will use the SUMXMY2-function in Excel.
Updates
14 April 2011 14:30 GMT
- Starting techs corrected (incl. who starts with a scout)
- Max number of turns and game speed corrected
18 April 2011 8:30 GMT
- Game speed set on epic
N.B.: in order to play this scenario from the game menu, put the file in Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Saves\WorldBuilder
Good luck!
This is something we've been doing at CivDuelZone, but I think the idea has now matured enough to start it here without start-up hitches.
See here the thread at CivDuelZone where it all started. But over there we only played at noble difficulty and normal speed. I have decided to leave that up to the players here now.
Some Civilizations are more difficult than others, so the results for tougher civilizations will be increased relatively. Vice versa: the difficulty of a civilization will be judged on results, so if a civilization is played by a someone who posted a bad result on another civilization, the result will be increased to compensate.
If a player plays the same civilization more than once, only the best result will count.
When you're done, please submit your results here.
Preferably you could also post your result (including screenshot) in this thread as notification to others.
Do note that Epic game speed is mandatory!
In the end we will have:
- A list of results.
- A list of the weighted average of players their results.
- A list of the weighted average of results per civilization.
Maya and Mongolia start at a slightly different place than is historically accurate, because otherwise they'd start just too close to another civ. Furthermore, the map's been tweaked and adapted many times, up to many details, to adjust for accurate climate, actual resources locations (although there are horses in America) and a fair start for all civilizations at least to some degree.
Start: two settlers, one warrior, one warrior or scout, one worker
Difficulty: selectable
Speed: epic
Victory type: all
Map size: huge
Options: pick religion, no tech trading, no vassal states
Code:
[U]Player [/U] [U]Civilization [/U] [U]Points[/U] [U]Date [/U] [U]Result [/U] [U]Difficulty[/U]
01. Rom_Addy Rome 564671 730 AD Domination win Noble
02. Bugg123 Zululand 428130 1315 AD Conquest win Immortal
03. Kadazzle India 406799 1655 AD Domination win Deity
04. AbsoluteZero Zululand 292290 1605 AD Domination win Immortal
05. west45 Mali 264564 1748 AD Domination win Emperor
06. DesertPfox Mongolia 239286 1665 AD Domination win Emperor
07. CaF Zululand 237385 1605 AD Domination win Emperor
08. grenobles Vikings 231560 1774 AD Domination win Emperor
09. monkybone Mongolia 213852 1710 AD Domination win Emperor
10. illram Egypt 192424 1712 AD Domination win Monarch
11. monkybone Vikings 180154 1816 AD Domination win Emperor
12. gram123 Rome 174347 1555 AD Domination win Noble
13. DesertPfox China 171069 1814 AD Domination win Emperor
14. Ororo Zululand 155940 1814 AD Domination win Emperor
15. alhimik Rome 152288 1824 AD Domination win Monarch
16. evil_spock Inca 146644 1847 AD Domination win Monarch
17. Kadazzle Egypt 142225 1300 AD Cultural win Deity
18. balatian Khmer 137299 1810 AD Domination win Emperor
19. m00n Maya 119019 1878 AD Domination win Emperor
20. Morholt Vikings 116584 1864 AD Domination win Monarch
21. zbgayumn Egypt 110919 1738 AD Domination win Warlord
22. yendor Aztec 94967 1720 AD Domination win Chieftain
23. Gustave5436 Inca 94879 1718 AD Space Race win Monarch
24. yendor Native America 94795 1702 AD Conquest win Chieftain
25. stevoh Mongolia 89981 1887 AD Domination win Monarch
26. yendor Mali 85664 ???? ?? Domination win Chieftain
27. gram123 Mali 73289 1857 AD Diplomatic win Noble
28. yendor Mongolia 72188 1770 AD Domination win Chieftain
29. Makahlua Russia 66967 1890 AD Domination win Noble
30. WithTea Native America 64025 1855 AD Cultural win Monarch
31. Archon_Wing China 60638 1818 AD Diplomatic win Monarch
32. yendor Maya 58857 1770 AD Domination win Chieftain
33. gram123 Egypt 57305 1752 AD Cultural win Immortal
34. illram Rome 55083 1851 AD Space Race win Monarch
35. gram123 Inca 52151 1778 AD Cultural win Emperor
36. yendor Inca 46778 1864 AD Space Race win Chieftain
37. QuantumPion Egypt 45361 1900 AD Space Race win Monarch
38. Archon_Wing Aztec 37840 1903 AD Space Race win Monarch
39. zbgayumn Inca 37220 1768 AD Cultural win Monarch
40. gram123 Egypt 34704 1265 AD Cultural win Settler
41. dilettante Russia 33855 1923 AD Space Race win Warlord
42. Archon_Wing Native America 32347 1883 AD Cultural win Noble
43. Brenador Inca 29537 1768 AD Cultural win Noble
44. Bjeurn Khmer 25768 1942 AD Space Race win Prince
45. DigitalCraft Egypt 22499 1867 AD Space Race win Warlord
46. Elbow_Jobertski Inca 22367 1808 AD Cultural win Warlord
47. Elbow_Jobertski Maya 21143 1932 AD Space Race win Warlord
48. Mellus Russia 17580 1982 AD Domination win Noble
49. dilettante Native America 14866 1959 AD Space Race win Noble
50. dilettante Khmer 11144 1936 AD Cultural win Noble
51. topsecret Egypt 8260 1963 AD Space Race win Chieftain
52. dcmort93 Rome 8102 1968 AD Cultural win Chieftain
53. Tirinn Aztec 7833 1907 AD Space Race loss Settler
54. dcmort93 Vikings 1872 2044 AD Space Race loss Chieftain
Code:
Weighted average scores of players:
A01. Rom_Addy 564717
A02. west45 351933
A03. grenobles 343555
A04. evil_spock 326902
A05. DesertPfox 267777
A06. monkybone 263932
A07. m00n 227857
A08. Gustave5436 211507
A09. Morholt 172970
A10. alhimik 152300
A11. Kadazzle 137150
A12. illram 109983
A13. stevoh 109898
A14. yendor 108318
A15. gram123 102981
A16. zbgayumn 96300
A17. balatian 91326
A18. WithTea 78302
A19. Brenador 65845
A20. Archon_Wing 54277
A21. Elbow_Jobertski 44691
A22. QuantumPion 41751
A23. digitalcraft 20709
A24. Bjeurn 17140
A25. Makahlua 14662
A26. Tirinn 9617
A27. topsecret 7603
A28. dilettante 7413
A29. dcmort93 5624
A30. Mellus 3849
B01. Bugg123 428,130
B02. AbsoluteZero 292,290
B03. CaF 237,385
B04. Ororo 155,940
Code:
Weighted average scores of civilizations:
A01. Russia 311553
A02. India 198902
A03. Khmer 102554
A04. Egypt 74113
A05. Rome 68209
A06. Mongolia 55852
A07. Native America 55777
A08. Aztecs 55562
A09. Mali 51280
A10. China 48443
A11. Vikings 45978
A12. Maya 35631
A13. Inca 30600
B01. Zululand 260886
A 68215
B 260886
Note: the scores in the different groups are incomparable (yet). That is, the players played with different civilizations.
The average is the geometric average of the squared results. E.g. the average of 10000, 40000 and 67500 would be 3√(√10000 * √40000 * √67500)2 = 30000.
The weighted average is the average divided by the average of the corresponding civilization(s)/player(s). When things start to get complex I will use the SUMXMY2-function in Excel.
Updates
14 April 2011 14:30 GMT
- Starting techs corrected (incl. who starts with a scout)
- Max number of turns and game speed corrected
18 April 2011 8:30 GMT
- Game speed set on epic
N.B.: in order to play this scenario from the game menu, put the file in Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Saves\WorldBuilder
Good luck!