Elimination Game Thread - Which Civs Need a Second Leader?

Arabs 13
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19 (18 + 1) (Need to have an industrial era leader, probably should have started with one and had the Hanseatic era represented by the Holy Roman Empire)
Indians 31 (34 - 3) (lots of people have up voted India saying "we need someone besides Gandhi" but there haven't been that many compelling suggestions of who that should be - I'm sure India has had a lot of great leaders over their long history but they just don't have the name recognition of other civs' leaders)
Japanese 3
Persians 17
Romans 5
Russians 10
 
Arabs 13
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 32 (31+1) I personally would prefer a Mughal Empire Civ, but I'll settle for an alternate leader.
Japanese 0 (3-3) ELIMINATED I love you Japan, but you don't need a second leader as much as some of these other Civs.

Persians 17
Romans 5 @Roman Citizen I mean your name is Roman Citizen you cant down vote Rome with a name like that.
Russians 10
 
Arabs 10 = 13 - 3 Would not be super excited to see another Arabic leader. Rather see Ottomans
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 32
Persians 17
Romans 6 = 5 + 1 Come on guys, there is a reason why toga parties are still popular.
Russians 10
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 32
Persians 17
Romans 6 - 3 = 3 - We let the Spanish and Japanese go first, now, Rome can be eliminated
Russians 10 + 1 = 11 - With such a long history, another leader is a must
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 32+1=33 - Considering that Gandhi was never official leader of India, then yeah, India really should get an actual leader. There are many good choices - Ashoka, Akbar, Shah Jahan, Shivaji...
Persians 17
Romans 3-3=0 (ELIMINATED) - I'll end Rome's suffering. It's already well represented by Trajan.
Russians 11
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 33
Persians (17-3)=14 Persia can wait longer for a second leader, since it's a DLC civ
Russians (11+1)=12 Russia has had a decently long history, why not give them a second leader?
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 29
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 33
Persians 15 (14+1) Parthian Empire, Sasanian Empire, Khomeini...=> great battle
Russians 9 (12-3) important nation just since 300 years - 80 years more than America. Many said that this is not enough for a second leader. I prefer a separate Soviet Civ (like Macedon) and last but not least actually Peter fits well.
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 29 + 1 = 30 (One of the oldest civilizations in world history ought to get a second leader from a different era, perhaps old and cunning Kangxi, or the vicious but accomplished Wu Zetian)
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 19
Indians 33
Persians 15 - 3 = 12 (Frankly, it's ancient Persia that is represented in Civ VI, and Cyrus for better or ill (however anachronistic his leader ability and agenda) generally fits the historical archetype for a ruler of ancient Persia.)
Russians 9
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 30
Egyptians 31
English 22
French 30
Germans 20 (19+1) I'm going to try to keep the Germans in the running.
Indians 33
Persians 9 (12-3) Not as worthy as the Chinese, Egyptians, or Indians. Plus we all know this one will eventually go down.
Russians 9
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 31 (30+1) Important civ across all eras represented in civilization.
Egyptians 31
English 19 (22-3) Not many choices left and out of the civs I feel this one have least to gain on getting a new leader, I mean the whole civs is already very much designed to be played with Victoria. Also docked points because I don't want the game to turn to eurocentric.
French 30
Germans 20
Indians 33
Persians 9
Russians 9
 
Arabs 10
Chinese 31
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 30
Germans 20
Indians 33
Persians 9 - 3 = 6 - Well, yeah, they should be the next to go
Russians 9 + 1 = 10 - Russia must have a leader who ruled from Moscow
 
Arabs 10-3=7 - Saladin is enough to represent Arabia for now.
Chinese 31
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 30+1=31 - Catherine de' Medici was maybe unique, but definitely the best choice to represent France. I think it needs someone more significant, like Napoleon, Philip II Augustus, Louis XIV or Henry IV.
Germans 20
Indians 33
Persians 6
Russians 10
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 31
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 31
Germans 20
Indians 33
Persians (6-3)=3 Persia can wait for a second leader
Russians (10+1)=11 No separate Soviet Civ please
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 31
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 31
Germans 20-3=17 I'm not as interested in another German leader as the rest of the civs here.
Indians 33
Persians 3
Russians 11+1=12 I don't think there needs to be a separate Soviet union civ.
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 31
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 31
Germans 17
Indians 33
Persians 4 (3+1) A magnificent Shah for more classical and medieval variety!
Russians 9 (12-3) a Soviet leader did not fit to the religious design of the Russian Civ with the UD the Lavra and the UA which provides faith from tundra tiles. That all did not fit to a Soviet leader for Russia in this game. A Soviet Civ should get as UD a tractor factory, as UA better spies, bonus for science, UU: T-34 and Katyusha rocket launcher.
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 31 + 1 = 32 (Someone more recent than Qin Shi Huang, i.e. Kangxi, would be excellent, and a great first appearance)
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 31
Germans 17
Indians 33
Persians 4 - 3 = 1 (Medieval Persia is not in Civ VI. We don't need a medieval Persian ruler for the ancient Persian civ shown)
Russians 9
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 33 (32+1) Countless Dynasties Countless Leaders.
Egyptians 31
English 19
French 31
Germans 17
Indians 33
Persians ELIMINATED (1-3) Next up the Russians and the Arabs.
Russians 9
 
Arabs 7
Chinese 33
Egyptians 31
English 19 - 3 = 16 Sorry England, but I think a second German leader and a Russian would add more to these civilizations than a second English leader at this time. Besides, I want Berlin and Moscow as capitals.
French 31
Germans 17 + 1 = 18 I really want Otto von Bismarck in the game
Indians 33
Russians 9
 
Arabs 7-3=4 - Arabia should go next, followed by Russia. Saladin is enough to represent them for now.
Chinese 33
Egyptians 31
English 16
French 31
Germans 18
Indians 33+1=34 - India has a leader that was never an official leader of India. Some Indian emperor would be nice.
Russians 9
 
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