Emperor SG?

[vmxa]

Lurker:

It is easy enough to lose track of kills in some big AW games. Ofen I am just making my best guess. HP no way to recall all the units that had damage or and extra HP. I sometimes give the details on hit points in the very early turns, where you have 1 or 2 battles.

I just had a thought of some of the turns where I had more than 100 battles. I may run into trouble trying to add. LoL

 

[del62]

I am taking a set of this old game,

the war order is

1 - Greece
2 - India
3 - Russia
4 - Sumer
5 - Japan
6 - Arabia

Hopefully some progress can be made against the greeks this set.

 

[vmxa]

Just in case you had not been aware, they are using Rise and Rule mod.

 

[GamezRule]

Just in case you had not been aware, they are using Rise and Rule mod.

I was a player and I didn't even know that!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9215870&postcount=8

 

[madviking]

Uh I don't know how this got brought up. But yea, you guys can finish this...

 

[del62]

Are you sure its RAR, Ifrom what I read that was dropped

 

[vmxa]

No, I am not sure. I was just going by the start. If it was RaR it would probably play fine early. It is not till you hit a new unit or structure that it would care.

 

[Calis]

It had no mods. Otherwise I wouldn't have participated.

 

[vmxa]

Yup, they decided not enough interest ansd switch back to no mods, just variant of NOW. You would need to know the order of contacts to follow those rules. Wonder if they keep that info posted as they went along. Duh I see it was posted.

 

[del62]

Right played a set of 10 turns - LoG

Spoiler :

Okay this is NOW game

I take Calis Advice and build an embassy firstly with Russia

I think our current target is Greece but we also fight sumer till they give up a tech

54g and we have russian embassy

Thet are just starting a uni and have 4 luxurise, salt (3), Iron and Horses

770AD Take Der

I leave it there for tonight

According to NOW our targets are Greece, then India ???, Sumer

IBT

Russians declare on Sumeria

Athens Med Inf -> Settler
Instanbul Med Inf - Med Inf
Edrine Settler -> Library
New Aydin Pike Pike

Declare on India -> need to clear them out

2 Swors Armies take out two spears in Madras

800AD

Take Madras, Kill units, land in new greece

810AD
Take Jaipur from Greeks,

820AD
Defending positions against various places, from sumer, India and Greeks
Land Unit next to Greek Capitol
Pay 10Gpt for peace with Sumeria and Monotheism

830AD
Lose one MI and Kill one Hopilite at Knossos, need to get more units across

840AD
Retreat from Knossos

IBT
The Spanish are destroyed, never met them

850AD Take Caslcutta
On to Bombay and Horses

Major events captured Greek City, we have one left, I have two MI in a boat near Der, these
can be chained across to join pike and 2 more MI at Jaipur for attack on Knossos

I have declared on India, we need to hit on them eventually anyway, and made peace with sumer

We should take horses of India, and continue war against them, (we need to anyway)

Got Monetheism for 10gpt from Sumer in Peace Deal.

We need to have troops in place for Russia when the Indians are defeated, or even before

Hopefully we can build horses when we get them to upgrade to knights.

Be great if someone could take a set.

 

[Calis]

Give ma a little bit time, then I will do one.

 

[Calis]

I had a look at the save.

Two points:

1. We have 9! workers. That is really horrible!! This has to be changed quickly.

2. Ur is located on our continent and has The Great Library. I think we should stop self-researching for now. We are able to research at 30% and are a Monarchy (Right now 21 turns till Invention). We get nowhere with this. Let's stop and get the GLib at some point.

So del62, if you agree I would work on these two main points.

 

[del62]

On workers we have 9 workers plus 35 slaves I think, so it is not as bad as you think. If you think we need more though go ahead.

You are right about UR, my thoughts were Chivalry before UR though, as it would make capturing easier. But I have no problem with going to Lone Scientist on Invention (or even turning it off) and perhaps trying to steal Chivalry.

 

[Calis]

You are right about UR, my thoughts were Chivalry before UR though, as it would make capturing easier. But I have no problem with going to Lone Scientist on Invention (or even turning it off) and perhaps trying to steal Chivalry.

But until we get Chivalry, about 40 turns wil have passed, as we are currently researching Invention. And knights won't make it that much easier. Our MIs also have an attack of 4 and supported by artillery units they will do fine as well.

I agree on a lone scientist research on Invention.

 

[Calis]

Started playing...

Will post a log in a few days.

 

[vmxa]

It has been two full months, since last turn was played. I feel I can go ahead and post that I did play the 850AD to conquest last week. I won't post any log or screen shots, unless Calis and
Del62 say they are not going to play on. Even then I would put any log in spoiler tags.

Thanks for the game as it had been a bit of time between civ games for me.

 

[Calis]

I have to beg your pardon, guys. I really wante to continue, but did not really find the time. I should have informed you, of course

Please go ahead, if you want, vmxa. It is kind of challenging, but actually doable with the armies we already have.

 

[del62]

I am fine for you to go ahead VMXA

 

[vmxa]

Thanks guys, sorry to hear you got too busy. The position was quite good. Should get up some logs later tonight or early tomorrow.

 

[vmxa]

Spoiler :

850AD (T200-Post)
Well let's see what is going on. I wonder why Delhi is the first target, since horses are near Bombay?
Where are the combat settlers? I would have prefered to go at Bombay and bring a setter to drop just before
taking Bombay. This is so you do not get a situation where you capture Bombay and some tiles fall under Sumerian control.
Thus making touchy issues.

So Greece has one town on an island and we have a few units there now and a town.
India has at least one town on a small or tiny island that I can see.
36 foreign units, all Russian save 1 iirc. This could go bad in a hurry.

As I understand things you MUST fight to the death with the current NOW civ. You can war or make peace as you wish with all others. This in conjunction

with not doing deliberate rep breaking things. I do not use exploits that I am aware are known exploits, so no issues there. I do not use ship chaining,

unless it is in an SG and they have set it up. Actually I am not sure I have even done it then as I am not all that sure about not messing it up.

Jaipur: switch Lib to worker as I cannot imagine a need for a lib here.
Bingol: move the two trebs to Kirklaneli. Switch pike to weatlh and lone sci.
Riza: switch treb to wealth. 28 more turns is not going to be useful to me. 22 bombardment units now, plus any captured ones is enough for this continent
anyway.

Switch the lone pop to sci as it is a desert town and will not be all that useful as a farm.
Der: galley has units in it and has no movement, nor do the units. I have to wonder why this is the case. There is a galley that could attack. True it only has

1HP, but I have seen that still win. I would not have put units in till next turn, why risk them? There is no gain moving them now, unless you expect to ship

chain next turn. I do not see the need for this risk, albeit as small one.

25 MDI
4 pikes
15 swords
2 spears
1 warrior
9 workers and 28 slaves if I counted correctly.

Not real happy with only 4 pikes in a NOW or really a continuous war situation. This could turn into a more or less AW pretty in short order. I would like 10 -12 pikes for the Russian border. I am not concerned about the others on this land, but Cathy could make things rough.

Bolu: switch galley to settler. I do not see any use for boats right now. We would need some time to clear the land here, later we can build what we need.
Urfa: switch newly started treb to wealth.
Salonika: switch 94 more turns to go market to wall. This is on the Russian border.
Istanbul: sell granary as we are size 12.
Grab the treb near Bolu as I do not know where it is going. I want to send to Russian front.

Sparta: needed to have at least one worker added.
Calcutta: switch pike (no rax) to settler.
Kirklareli: switch lib to wealth and lone pop to sci.
Zonguldak: switch lib to wealth and lone pop to sci. Another desert town.

Need to determine, if we want to research. If not, then switch sci to tax.

Karachi and Delphi are making a lib. Not what I would want here, but will leave to allow border pops. I would have liked a wall in each first as Russia may turn on them next. They should roll those Sumer towns and then may look for a closer target. Worse they could make peace even sooner.

Move the trebs and cats near Delphi into towns. No sense in having a tempting target lay around. Grab the MDI on the move by Athens.

Could trade for Horses with Japan, but no sense till we have Chiv. So I switch from Invention (now was 18 turns, rather than 20) to Chiv in 16.
Puts us at 45 gold in hand and +5gpt.

IBT:
sell court in Madras.
Der to wealth and lone pop to tax.

860AD (T201)
MDI kills I-archer near Jaipur.
As I read that they were intending to use ship chains, I chained over those two units. BTW it is easier to chain, if you name the boats. This is especially useful when there is a stack of boats.

1st and 2nd kill a spear in Delhi.

IBT:
Gil makes us move our troops heading towards Knossos. My bad, I did not realize those tiles were in his borders. Will have to load to boats now.
Alex drops a sword off near Jaipur.

870AD (T202)
1st kills archer and spear and 2nd kills spear taking Delhi. Captured a cat, missed gold, if any.
Galley finds the 1hp I-galley and sinks it next to Bad-tibra.
Send 2 armies to Bombay.

880AD (T203)
I saw several Russians die attacking Isin, one was a rare attacking spear.
2nd kills archer next to Delhi.
sword kills G-sword approaching Jaipur.

IBT:
8 Rusians died, before 1 finally (barely) survived and then they lost one more.
India joins Sumeria against Cathy.
A couple of Wonders start, I remember Bachs was one.