Enhanced User Interface v1.30m

[Gazebo]

Using version 15 & CEP

Tried it with no other mods active, including CSD which I take it prompted the change.

I didn't do anything I swear! (I cannot back this statement up with evidence)

Did you delete the cityview.lua file out of CSD's directory? Not doing that alone will cause problems with EUI.

Also, sorry you are getting flak from people for your excellent work, bc1. Some people just don't understand how much time goes into the work we do. We have no resources, no beta testers (well, we have them, we just call them 'subscribers'), no dev team, yet people expect speedy magic perfection. Blurgh.

I've received hundreds of rather unhappy messages over the years from people. You just have to ignore them.

 

[ExpiredReign]

@gazebo

No I'm not having a dig at you. Your work also is of the highest quality and should be considered by all as mandatory.
What I was referring too was the version history on the first page.
As my comment said, the "problem" occurred without CSD.

Version 1.15 (March 7th, 2014)
Fixed some bugs (including one that broke some custom maps)
Compatibility with City-State Diplomacy Mod (CSD) v21: should work provided you remove CSD's own CityView.lua from its ...\Assets\UI\InGame\CityView folder (EUI's CityView.lua is now compatible with CSD, the reverse is not true)
Compatibility with Civ IV Diplomacy Features Mod v10: should work provided you remove CDM's TopPanel.lua from its ...\UI\InGame folder (EUI's TopPanel.lua is now compatible with CDM, the reverse is not true)

As I didn't see any problems beforehand, and only upgraded EUI, I was just checking what in the change may have done it.
As it is, all this is a moot point as I have updated CEP to include the paired files bc1 suggested were needed to remove these teething troubles.
So ANYONE can now just install EUI, and have CEP (and CSD) loaded as mods and be assured that nothing will be missing.
Tried it last night and it is a very good combo. IMHO.

@bc1
Like gazebo said, you too have produced some excellent work here and the few vocal detractors will have no bearing on the standing you have on this forum.

 

[Taa]

This is just awesome...great work bc1.

Im playing with CCTP atm and wonder if there is any chance at all to make EUI work with CCTP?
I know you made it work in CEP but I have no idea if this also is possible for CCTP.

 

[Gazebo]

@gazebo

No I'm not having a dig at you. Your work also is of the highest quality and should be considered by all as mandatory.
What I was referring too was the version history on the first page.
As my comment said, the "problem" occurred without CSD.



As I didn't see any problems beforehand, and only upgraded EUI, I was just checking what in the change may have done it.
As it is, all this is a moot point as I have updated CEP to include the paired files bc1 suggested were needed to remove these teething troubles.
So ANYONE can now just install EUI, and have CEP (and CSD) loaded as mods and be assured that nothing will be missing.
Tried it last night and it is a very good combo. IMHO.

@bc1
Like gazebo said, you too have produced some excellent work here and the few vocal detractors will have no bearing on the standing you have on this forum.

No worries, I was just being coy. I too am currently running CEP, CSD and EUI - is a great collection of mods.

To keep this post tied to EUI, I love everything about this mod except for one thing: by the late game, when you've met all city-states and civs, having the diplo stuff on the same side as the notifications makes that side feel really cluttered, especially when the entire left side of the screen is left sad and empty. The scroll bar feels somewhat un-intuitive, and you get a bit of information overload.

One possibility might be to move the city-states over to the left side of the screen. That way players still have the wonderful at-a-glance view of all city-states, but the right side isn't as cluttered. The other option would be to move either the major civs (which wouldn't be terrible) or notifications (least favorite, as it would not be tied to the 'big button' at the bottom anymore).

You may have plans for this, or you may dislike the idea. Either way, just throwing it out there, as what good is feedback without a little constructive criticism?

Oh and one more thing: the 'hostile' 'guarded' 'neutral' etc. stance for civs is not indicated anywhere on the diplo 'bubbles' on the right side - their likes/dislikes are, but not their general stance. Or maybe it is and I'm just blind.


Edit: I'm becoming a blind old man. Reading over first post again highlights that color = stance. Of course.

Again, great work here. When I look at your code base, it makes me sad, as your elegant LUA makes my work look like I do this to my keyboard:

Cheers,
G

 

[bc1]

by the late game, when you've met all city-states and civs, the notifications side feel really cluttered

The solution i have in mind involves flagging things instead of some notifications, and removing or merging other less usefull ones. Lots of work, might not ever get done

the entire left side of the screen is left sad and empty

I have plans to make the left side usefull for running one's empire

is any chance at all to make EUI work with CCTP?

Anything is possible... it simply requires cooperation between modders

 

[Gazebo]

The solution i have in mind involves flagging things instead of some notifications, and removing or merging other less usefull ones. Lots of work, might not ever get done

I have plans to make the left side usefull for running one's empire

Anything is possible... it simply requires cooperation between modders

Sounds good. In the meantime, you might give players the option to enable/disable the minor civs on the diplo bar. It is, I imagine, slightly easier for the short-term than re-writing the entire notification lua.

 

[CraziFuzzy]

Sorry if this is covered, but is there a way this DLC can be added to the DLC menu and be disablable from there? The reason I ask is for mods that it might not be compatible with (Faerun). The mod can disable incompatible DLC, but it is unable to do so if that DLC is not showing in the list (it seems).

 

[Gazebo]

Sorry if this is covered, but is there a way this DLC can be added to the DLC menu and be disablable from there? The reason I ask is for mods that it might not be compatible with (Faerun). The mod can disable incompatible DLC, but it is unable to do so if that DLC is not showing in the list (it seems).

The best way to deal with this is just to move EUI out of the DLC folder when playing faerun.

 

[CraziFuzzy]

The best way to deal with this is just to move EUI out of the DLC folder when playing faerun.

Yeah, that's what i was doing - I was just hoping there was another option, since the faerun dev went through the effort of actively disabling all DLC already - it just doesn't work for this one.

 

[bc1]

It's not going to happen - only DLC with a Firaxis Key recognized by the game appear in the DLC manager list. Obviously EUI does not have a Key. And actually it's much better that way: for multiplayer any player can choose to use or not use, which is not the case for Firaxis keyed DLC's.
Cheers

 

[Argentino]

Sounds good. In the meantime, you might give players the option to enable/disable the minor civs on the diplo bar. It is, I imagine, slightly easier for the short-term than re-writing the entire notification lua.

Things get specially hectic by late game when a Civ with 10 CS Allies declares war and you get a small circle for each one declaring war on the other CIV.

It's insane!

Cheers.

 

[bc1]

Yes city state war notifications could easily be dumped, they are just spam. That's a quick win for the next release...

 

[ExpiredReign]

I'm pretty sure bc1 has already looked high and low for a way to do this.
I tried finding the code in the vanilla DLC projects that make them defined in the DLC selection box, hoping to see where a tag or some such thing might be added to EUI.

Nothing, nada, zip, zilch, zero.

It looks like it is hard-coded in some manner.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Didn't both God and Kings and BNW put every Allied War delecaration into a single notification i.e "Poland's City States declared war on Zulu?" and then when you hovered it listed the City States? I know Vanilla was annoyingi n that every City State had a seperate notification.

 

[bc1]

It was quite improved, but there are still lots of nuisance messages related to city state warfare.
Cheers

 

[bc1]

it might not be compatible with (Faerun)

Faerun for BNW v6 is completely incompatible with Enhanced User Interface. Only the G&K version is partially compatible.

 

[CraziFuzzy]

Faerun for BNW v6 is completely incompatible with Enhanced User Interface. Only the G&K version is partially compatible.

Right, I'm aware of that, that's why I was hoping for a toggleable state for EUI, so Faerun could automatically disable it, just like it disables all the other DLC. It's fine, it is not hard to move the EUI mod out of the folder when I want to play faerun.

 

[Gazebo]

It was quite improved, but there are still lots of nuisance messages related to city state warfare.
Cheers

Targeting less-useful notifications to ditch is not a bad idea. I'm prone to just right click most of them just to get them out of the way.

One idea is to put all global event notifications in one bubble, as with the city-state peace declarations. Perhaps give it a header like this:

Global Events:
-Assyria and England signed a research agreement!
-France denounced Russia!
-Germany has made peace with Sweden!

Would get rid of a lot of the clutter announcements.
G

 

[mbbcam]

Getting rid of the exclamation marks would be good, too. They are pointless (sic) when almost every notification has one.

 

[d3athbyn1ght]

My game wont start when I put this into my dlc folder, I take it out and my game starts