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Epsilon Foreign Ministry

It seems that Piffle and The Leader are on cool terms, at best. I read volumes in her scowl.

I wouldn't go asking them for a thank you note for the trade - best to let sleeping dogs be.

That said, a short congratulatory note on their wonder would not be inappropriate.
 
Don’t worry Peter – I wasn’t even dreaming of asking for a thank you – just thinking out loud.

However, you’re very right about the congratulations note. Look for a draft in the Piffle Embassy soon. Thanks for reminding me of that!

I’m also thinking we may NOT want to post an announcement in the UN for them, like we did for King Kong… just incase they think they’re being sneaky somehow… don’t want to give them another reason for animosity against us.
 
Good thinking, G_W.

And to be sure, I didn't think you were planning on hounding them; I too was just thinking aloud [on a forum?...] :)
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 80

875 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Our score drops due to Pop-rushing – no other point movement


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 234 (-7)
2) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 199 (+0)
3) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 198 (+0)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 165 (+0)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 164 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

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Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Alphabet

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 6 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Waiting on trade of Metal working for Alphabet with Piffle

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/ Alpha	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/ Mas	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 20% (+1)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16%
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 14% (-3)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 30,000 (Best: 33,000 / Worst: 25,000 / Avg: 30,000)
Compared to Piffle: 10% weaker



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Nothing very exciting this turn. Still waiting for Piffle to come up with Metal Casting to trade us.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 81

850 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* King Kong breaks into the 200's! Capital grows to size 7.
* King Kong and Saggion the Wise both gain 7 points.


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 231 (-3)
2) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 206 (+7)
3) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 198 (+0)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 172 (+7)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 164 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

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Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Alphabet

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Waiting on trade of Metal working for Alphabet with Piffle

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/ Alpha	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/ Mas	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 21% (+1)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 17% (+1)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 12% (-2)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 29,000 (Best: 33,000 / Worst: 25,000 / Avg: 30,500)
Compared to Piffle: ~ 10% weaker



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* King Kong had a good turn – but I'm guessing this was mostly due to population growth. It's also fair to assume that Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) learned a new tech.
* Piffle is still taking their sweet time in getting Metal Casting… let's hope everyone's tech research is going as slowly as Piffle's seems to be.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 82

825 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Piffle Discovers Metal Casting! (Not able to trade it yet)
* All teams gain points – Epsilon has the biggest jump.
* Epsilon’s power rating soars to #1
*EDIT: Judaism is founded! (by Saggion the Wise One?)



Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 248 (+17)
2) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 213 (+7)
3) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 211 (+13)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 182 (+10)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 167 (+3)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Alphabet, Iron Working

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Trade for Metal Casting with Piffle – hopefully next turn!

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/ Alpha/ IW	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/ Mas/MC	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 20% (-1)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16% (-1)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 11% (-1)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 1% (+1)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 40,000 (Rival Best: 37,000 / Rival Avg: 34,250)
Compared to Piffle: ~ 5% Stronger



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Piffle got Metal Casting this turn, but there must be a 1 turn delay before they can trade?
* Our power/soldier score climbed up to 1st place! Hopefully this will serve to discourage any thoughts Piffle has about attacking… though, iirc, the solder score counts population, and therefore isn’t really the best measure of military power.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 83

800 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* First big diplomatic Success! Metal Working acquired in trade with Piffle (we gave writing and Alphabet and promised gold/beaker catchup later)
* Judaism was founded last turn! (by Saggion the Wise One?)


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 265 (+17)
2) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 220 (+7)
3) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 216 (+5)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 182 (+0)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 167 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Iron Working

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)

----------------------------------------------------
Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Trade for Metal Casting with Piffle! Success!

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/IW		?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/Mas		?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 21% (+1)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16% (+0)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 13% (+2)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 1% (+0)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 44,000 (Rival Best: 41,000 / Rival Avg: 35,500)
Compared to Piffle: ~ 5% Stronger



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* I somehow missed the founding of Judaism last turn! Hard to say for sure who it was, but it had to be either Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) or else King Kong (Gandhi). SWO seems more likely to me – not only did they gain 10 points last turn, but we know for a fact that they have the prerequisite for Monotheism (polytheism – which gave them Hinduism). If anyone sees good reason to disagree with this conclusion, please speak up!
* The more interesting question, is why would SaggionTWO want to get another religion? As I see it, they are either in a big hurry to have organized religion for the +25% building bonus or else they are looking to religion monger to get extra leverage on the 2 civs without a religion… but if that's true, that seems like a pretty bad plan to me.
The most likely scenario that I can come up with is the SWO met another team (maybe King Kong?), and they are trading for the lower level techs while SWO picks up Monotheism to get the 25% building bonus for both teams.
Anyone have a theory they'd like to posit?
* Thanks for the breakdown on the Soldier score Peter. I'd read that once in the past, but it was a good refresher. Bottom line, our soldier/power score doesn’t mean a whole lot – but will become more meaningful as the game goes on. At least our enemies don't have any more to go on than we do!
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 84

775 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Piffle has a 3rd town - Teracle Cottage! (And has had it for awhile – Foreign Minster launches investigation to find out what the Oracle knew, and when she knew it.)
* Chief Aloha jumps back into action with a +14 point gain this turn!


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 265 (+0)
2) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 224 (+4)
3) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 218 (+2)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 182 (+0)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 181 (+14)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Iron Working

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)
Teracle Cottage = ? population / est. t ? (? BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Offer of Mediation for Fishing on the table with Piffle

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/IW		?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/Mas		?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 21% (+0)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16% (+0)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 13% (+0)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 1% (+0)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 44,000 (Rival Best: 44,000 / Rival Avg: 35,500)
Compared to Piffle: ~ 5% Stronger



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* I'm kinda slacking on my tracking here… :blush: looks like Piffle has had a 3rd town for a little while now. I'll go back later tonight and check to see when they founded it.
* Another team has reached 44,000 soldiers, but our power graph in relation to Piffle still looks like we're ~5% higher… either there's a delay on the graph, or someone else has climbed to soldier parity with us.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 85

750 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Piffle acquires the secret of Hunting
* Piffle knocks Loco out of second place in score.
* Loco (King Kong) loses 6 points… Analysis suggests the whip.


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 265 (+0)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 229 (+11)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 218 (-6)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 186 (+4)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 181 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

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Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

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Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Iron Working

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)
Teracle Cottage = ? population / est. t ? (? BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Piffle appears to have traded with someone for hunting. Added to the big board!

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/IW		?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/Mas/Hunt	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X




:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 21% (+0)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16% (+0)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 13% (+0)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 1% (+0)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 45,000 (Rival Best: 46,000 / Rival Avg: 38,250)
Compared to Piffle: ~ 2% Stronger



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Piffle picked up hunting this turn. Whether from trade or from research – I'm not sure it's possible to say for sure. Seems most likely they got it in trade, because they just picked up Metal Casting on turn 82. I suppose they could get hunting that fast on their own… but still, seems more likely to be a trade.
* still no response to my last letter to Piffle…but that's pretty much par for the course for those jokers. I'm just leaving them alone for now. Ball is clearly in their court.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 86

725 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Pretty quiet turn – Saladin (SwO) gains a tech.
* Piffle is attempting to block the peninsula! Barbarians to the rescue?


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 268 (+3)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 229 (+0)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 218 (+0)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 199 (+13)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 185 (+4)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

----------------------------------------------------
Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Iron Working

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)
Teracle Cottage = ? population / est. t82 (825 BC)

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Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Neutral to team Piffle

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Piffle appears to have traded with someone for hunting. Added to the big board!

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/IW		?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Fish/Mas/Hunt	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 20% (-1)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 16% (+0)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 14% (+1)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 1% (+0)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.
* Piffle has a settler looking to make their 4th town to block our access to their land

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 46,000 (Rival Best: 46,000 / Rival Avg: 39,250)
Compared to Piffle: Same



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Nothing greatly noteworthy this turn!
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 87

700 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Massive deal with Piffle goes through! Epsilon learns Fishing, Hunting, and Masonry – Iron Working sent to Piffle.
* Epsilon Team crests the 300 point mark
* Piffle suffers a serious setback as they lose their settler guard to a Barbarian


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 301 (+33)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 253 (+24)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 222 (+4)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 199 (+0)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 185 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

----------------------------------------------------
Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 6 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population / est. t45 (2220 BC)
Teracle Cottage = ? population / est. t82 (825 BC)

----------------------------------------------------
Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Peace with team Piffle – till 1AD

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:

* Trade with Piffle – Epsilon gains Fishing, hunting, and Masonry. Piffle gains Iron Working. Big board updated!

Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/Pri		?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]none		?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi) – 20% (+0)
Hinduism – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin) – 15% (-1)
Confucianism – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team! – 13% (-1)
Judaism – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin) ? – 3% (+2)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team.
* Piffle has a settler looking to make their 4th town to block our access to their land – serious setback as Piffle loses their settler guard to a Barbarian.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 48,000 (Rival Best: 62,000 / Rival Avg: 43,750)
Compared to Piffle: Same



From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Some big stuff this turn. Another great trade goes through with Piffle.
* Someone got a big jump in military power – but our graph still shows us as equal to piffle.
* Waiting to hear back from Piffle on further trade or alliance type deals.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 88

675 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* We can now see that Piffle has Archery and Sailing!
* Foreign Minister suspects they are trading with King Kong!


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 321 (+20)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 256 (+3)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 238 (+16)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 199 (+0)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 185 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

----------------------------------------------------
Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 5 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population
Teracle Cottage = ? population

----------------------------------------------------
Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Peace with team Piffle – till 1AD

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:



Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/Pries	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Sail/Arch	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – 19% (-1) – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi)
Confucianism – 17% (+4) – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team!
Hinduism – 14% (-1) – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin)
Judaism – 2% (-1) – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team – I suspect it's King King/Loco/Gandhi
* Piffle has a Galley and an Axeman.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 49,000 (Rival Best: 62,000 / Rival Avg: 45,250)
Compared to Piffle: ~10%Weaker


From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* I have created this guess at the world map. Makes sense to me. (With Aloha and Innovia being interchangeable) - but it's just pure speculation. We'll see!


* turn 89 update will have to wait till I get a chance late tonight. Sorry!
 
General_W said:
* Piffle comes up with Archery and Sailing! Who are they trading with? We can be almost positive they are trading with King Kong!

Sorry to Clutter yor thread oh Great General But I had to point out that, because they have sailing and archery does not mean they are trading wiht King Kong.

The reason we couldn't see those techs before is becuase we didn't have the pre-requisites (Fishing & Archery)

It is for the same reason that the only tech that they can see that we have and they don't is Meditation:

When in fact it is

Meditation==>Priesthood==>Code of Laws==>Civil Service

Although the point increase with King kong last turn looked like they could have aquired iron working... :confused: but it may not have come from piffle
 
Oh man! Way to burst my bubble!

Ok - I'm going to scale back what I've got in my report.
I'm still sticking with my gut instinct that Piffle is trading with King Kong. It just fits neatly with the scores over the recent turns. Ie - there seems to be a top grouping of Epsilon-Piffle-Loco .. and then a second group of Innovia-Aloha.
It's pure speculation on my part though.
Thanks for pointing out my oversight.

:salute:
 
General_W said:
Thanks for pointing out my oversight.
[\QUOTE]

No please don't think of it as that, ultimately this game is for all team memebers to have fun and learn, if assumptions arn't made then nothing fun would happen.

For Example until Maniac came around we were 100% sure as a team whipping a library and forcing 2 scienetist in eternal eye was the only and best way to go...well it semms like that pan has changed ;)
 
I love it when a 'pan' comes together ;)

I, too, thought that General_W had it right concerning Loco. I had to go back a few turns, and look at the score increases... There really does appear to be a 'Seed Group' and a 'Chaff Group'.

However, Piffle conducting trades with both Loco and Epsilon is not the only way the data may be interpreted.

In any case, it's all for the best that we are staying vigilant on these things :)
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 89

650 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* This turn showed us Piffle had a Boat, has Copper hooked up… as there’s an Axeman on the boat with their settler.


Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 321 (+0)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 262 (+6)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 238 (+0)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 202 (+3)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 185 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)


Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

----------------------------------------------------
Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Code of Laws, Civil Service

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 5 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population
Teracle Cottage = ? population

----------------------------------------------------
Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: Not Yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Peace with team Piffle – till 1AD

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:



Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/Pries	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Sail/Arch	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – 19% (+0) – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi)
Confucianism – 17% (+0) – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team!
Hinduism – 14% (+0) – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin)
Judaism – 2% (+0) – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by Saggion the Wise One (Saladin)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team – I suspect it's King King/Loco/Gandhi
* Piffle has a Galley and an Axeman.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 49,000 (Rival Best: 61,000 / Rival Avg: 45,250)
Compared to Piffle: ~20%Weaker


From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Finally caught up on this turn! Whew! Sorry for the delay.
 
- Team Epsilon -
Turn 90

625 BC
Peace is War
Freedom is Slavery
Epsilon is Strength


Foreign Headline News:
* Innovia (Saladin) Builds the Kashi Vishwanath temple to Hinduism!
* We spy the borders of Loco (Ghandi) in the south – will meet them next turn!
* We now know who controls each of the top 5 cities



Score Tracker
1) Epsilon – Leader (Huang) = 321 (+0)
2) Piffle - Pifflenatress (Elizabeth) = 264 (+2)
3) Loco - King Kong (Gandhi) = 241 (+3)
4) Innovia - Saggioun the Wise (Saladin) = 224 (+22)
5) Aloha – Chief Aloha (Catherine) = 185 (+0)


Top 5 Cities / Wonders



World Wonders:
Epsilon Team!: Oracle
Loco / King Kong / Gandhi: Stonehenge
Piffle / Elizabeth: Great Lighthouse (Balderdash)
Innovia / Saggioun the Wise / Saladin: Kashi Vishwanath



Epsilon International Relations Report:
Team Aloha
Team Aloha
Leader: Chief Aloha
Civ: Catherine, Russia
Traits: Creative, Financial
UU: Cossack
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Aloha Capital = Population ?
Aloha City #2 = Population ?

----------------------------------------------------
Team Innovia
Team Innovia
Leader: Saggioun the Wise
Civ: Saladin, Arabia
Traits: Philosophical, Spiritual
UU: Camel Archer
Contact: Not yet

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

Known Towns:
Innovia Capital = Population ?, Hindu Holy City

----------------------------------------------------
Team Piffle
Team Piffle
Leader: Pifflenatress
Civ: Elizabeth, England
Traits: Philosophical, Financial
UU: Redcoat
Contact: t45 (2220 BC)

Technology to Trade: Fishing, Masonry
Missing Technology: Meditation, Priesthood, Code of Laws, Civil Service

** Piffle Official Embassy: **

Known Towns:
Balderdash - Capital = 5 population / Great Lighthouse
Hamburger = ? population
Teracle Cottage = ? population

----------------------------------------------------
Team Loco
Team Loco
Leader: King Kong
Civ: Gandhi, India
Traits: Spiritual, Industrious
UU: Fast Worker
Contact: turn 91 (600 BC)

Technology to Trade: ?
Missing Technology: ?

**Loco Official Embassy: **


Known Towns:
Loco Capital = 7 population / Buddhism Holy City / Stonehenge

----------------------------------------------------



:traderoute: Foreign Trade Analysis:
* Nothing yet

:strength: Foreign Treaty/Diplomacy Status:
* Peace with team Piffle – till 1AD

:science: The Big Board: Foreign Science Status:



Code:
.	Epsilon		Aloha		Innovia		Piffle		Loco

[B]Epsilon:[/B]X		?		?		Med/Pries	?

[B]Aloha:[/B]	?		X		?		?		?

[B]Innovia:[/B]?		?		X		?		?

[B]Piffle:[/B]Sail/Arch	?		?		X		?

[B]Loco:[/B]	?		?		?		?		X



:religion:World Religion Status:
Buddhism – 20% (+1) – Founded turn 10 (3600BC) by King Kong (Ghandi)
Confucianism – 17% (+0) – Founded turn 66 (1360BC) by Epsilon team!
Hinduism – 14% (+0) – Founded turn 12 (3520BC) by StWO (Saladin)
Judaism – 2% (+0) – Founded turn 82 (825 BC) by StWO (Saladin)

Info Learned from Other Sources:
* Piffle has met another team
* Piffle has a Galley and an Axeman.

International Force Alignment:



Epsilon Power:
Soldiers: 49,000 (Rival Best: 61,000 / Rival Avg: 45,500)
Compared to Piffle: ~20%Weaker


From the desk of the CFM (Chief Foreign Minister):
* Lots of big news this turn! Innovia/Saladin picking up the Hindu Wonder is especially interesting to me – they obviously focused on getting out a quick prophet.
* Next turn will be dominated by news of King Kong – I can't wait to get my hands on their diplomacy screen and see what kind of tech they've got and how many towns they've settled.
* It now seems very unlikely that Loco has met Piffle. I still believe Piffle is trading with someone… but who!? I guess Our list narrows down to Aloha or Innovia. In that race, Innovia has to be the favorite, due to Aloha's surprisingly low and stagnating score. What are those crazy Aloha people doing?!?
 
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