Eu now voted to outlaw posting of any copyrighted material, including articles and even memes.

[Kyriakos]

In another WTH decision, which is (at best) hugely out of touch, and (at worst) a decision which only helps a small minority and may easily be used to choke the flow of information or other sharing of posts/images.

It is impossible to actually force, although they can always give google or similar sites a major pretext to just act agressively and really (in the immediate to mid-term) bring about a bad level of web control. Eg google can do this with threat tactics (it managed to soft-ban threads on various subjects, by officially threatening cancelling google-ads to work on those sites hosting such threads; we even know this from its effect on some threads on CFC, eg the Babe thread ).

A European parliament committee has voted for legislation that internet pioneers fear will turn the web into “a tool for surveillance and control”.

In a key vote on a draft law to overhaul EU copyright rules, the parliament’s legal affairs committee on Wednesday voted for measures that would require the likes of Google and Microsoft to install filters to prevent users from uploading copyrighted materials.

Critics fear the measures would stifle freedom of expression by curtailing internet users’ ability to share content. Some lawmakers say even memes would be affected, as users would be required to take their own meme photos and give permission for others to use them.

One of the most controversial provisions, article 13, would require platforms, such as Google and Microsoft, to install filters. It was adopted by the committee by 15 votes to 10.

Earlier in June, an open letter signed by 70 of the biggest names of the internet, including the creator of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, and the Wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales, argued that article 13 would take “an unprecedented step towards the transformation of the internet from an open platform for sharing and innovation, into a tool for the automated surveillance and control of its users”.

The plans still have to be agreed with representatives from the EU’s 28 governments before becoming law, but the vote reduces the chances of serious changes.

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...w-that-would-make-internet-a-tool-for-control

Article 11 introduces a "link tax", requiring that internet companies get permission from publishers to use a snippet of their work. On websites like Google and Twitter, for instance, a small part of the article is usually shown before someone clicks into it entirely – but, under the new rule, those technology companies would have get permission and perhaps even pay to use that excerpt.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...nk-tax-internet-juri-censorship-a8407566.html

I hope they won't sue me for sharing news articles without paying those rags

 

[Synobun]

This wouldn't have worked in the late 80s and 90s. It certainly won't work now.

 

[Kyriakos]

This wouldn't have worked in the late 80s and 90s. It certainly won't work now.

It doesn't need to work. It just needs to give a nice pretext to things like Google. They can do the rest. Soft-threats can stifle article/post/image sharing too.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Does it have to be passed by all 28 members legislatures to take effect? "Cause if it does, it hopefully won't go very far.

 

[Kyriakos]

Does it have to be passed by all 28 members legislatures to take effect? "Cause if it does, it hopefully won't go very far.

Yes, it has to be passed by all 27 (nice that the Guardian keeps pretending that Britain is in the EU ^_^ ). Do you want to base your hopes on that? By "representatives" it doesn't even seem to mean national parliaments, btw. It likely is just some officials, eg in the euro parliament or tied to it, for each state.

The plans still have to be agreed with representatives from the EU’s 28 governments before becoming law, but the vote reduces the chances of serious changes.

 

[Ryika]

Yes, it has to be passed by all 27 (nice that the Guardian keeps pretending that Britain is in the EU ^_^ ).

So you edited that random orphaned "Germany" out of your sentence, what was your initial thought about my beloved country?

 

[Kyriakos]

So you edited that random orphaned "Germany" out of your sentence, what was your initial thought about my beloved country?

That isn't correct, grammatically. What do you mean with your sentence: "So you edited that random orphaned out of your sentence"?

 

[Ryika]

All I can say is, Germany will fix this. Just disband the EU and let us try to unite the world again.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Blud Un Memes!

 

[BenitoChavez]

Critics fear the measures would stifle freedom of expression by curtailing internet users’ ability to share content. Some lawmakers say even memes would be affected, as users would be required to take their own meme photos and give permission for others to use them.

This bit from the Guardian sounds like it could affect individual users, not just the tech companies. So if I, as an American, post a meme whose picture is originally from an EU source could the EU come after me? Seems kinda nutty.

 

[Ryika]

The problem isn't that they'd come after you with a legal team, the problem is that you attempt to post content but it never goes online because it has been filtered by the company that is trying to not get fined.

Of course given the enormous backlash from just about everybody, that's not actually going to happen, it's just that the first steps have been seriously misguided. It's like a bunch of internet-illiterates sat together and asked each other: "How can we prevent people from unfairly profiting of other people's work?", brainstormed for an hour and never stopped to ask themselves: "But what would be the downsides of implementing the things we've come up with?"

Alternatively, they sat down, discussed the problem, came to the conclusion that they don't know how to fix it, and then one person said: "Well, we DO have to justify our existence by actually offering changes, so if we can't improve things, maybe we can at least make them worse?"

 

[Valka D'Ur]

By this point who knows who took the original photos that people have captioned and posted thousands or tens of thousands of times?

I Can Has Cheezburger once asked if I'd give permission to include one of my lolpics in their annual calendar. I said no, because the rules stated that I had to have taken the original photo... and I hadn't, and have no clue at all who did. If they hadn't had that rule, I'd have said yes immediately.

 

[EnglishEdward]

I believe that this type of regulation increases the cost of entry to the market for startups and is therefore
favoured by established corporates such as google that have the resources to manage the complications.

It also fits into the assume they are guilty until proven innocent, worse mind set of continental law.

Copyright owners naturally argue for it, and the major tech players are happy if they
can control its implementation to their advantage. Everyone else gets stuffed.

 

[innonimatu]

Does it have to be passed by all 28 members legislatures to take effect? "Cause if it does, it hopefully won't go very far.

As if that ever stopped the EU bureaucracy from doing anything. Recall CETA? It hasn't been approved yet by national legislative assemblies. But it was declared to be in force. Democracy is so passé.

OTOH Ĩ'm not going to cry a river for Google. Not a single drop either. This law is targeted at those kind of companies.

 

[Yeekim]

Yes, it has to be passed by all 27 (nice that the Guardian keeps pretending that Britain is in the EU ^_^ ). Do you want to base your hopes on that? By "representatives" it doesn't even seem to mean national parliaments, btw. It likely is just some officials, eg in the euro parliament or tied to it, for each state.

You're certainly entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.
Have you ever considered actually finding out for yourself how EU legislation is created?
Or do you willfully cling on to your tabloid-level ignorance, because it makes bashing the EU easier?

 

[FriendlyFire]

As if that ever stopped the EU bureaucracy from doing anything. Recall CETA? It hasn't been approved yet by national legislative assemblies. But it was declared to be in force. Democracy is so passé. OTOH Ĩ'm not going to cry a river for Google. Not a single drop either. This law is targeted at those kind of companies.

What dose provisionally mean ?

CETA was implemented in large parts pending approval by the EU's more than 30 national and regional parliaments which could take years. Only five parliaments have so far ratified the agreement.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

All I can say is, Germany will fix this. Just disband the EU and let us try to unite the world again.

Militarily I wouldnt chance it dear Germany. This time the world got nukes and you dont. Hell Germany doesnt even have a serious army to talk about. On the other hand Germany is yet again at trying to unite the world. This time through economy, ideology serving global interests and freedom-crippling laws such as that mentioned in the OP.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

You're certainly entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.
Have you ever considered actually finding out for yourself how EU legislation is created?

Well present your answer to that question so that we can move on. As far as I know the democraticaly elected EU parliament doesnt have a say in actual creation of the laws. It can only vote on them. The laws are presented/created by unelected EU commission which makes bashing of EU with its democracy-deficit very easy indeed!

 

[Arakhor]

The EU Commission are accepted or rejected by a vote from the EU Parliament and are appointed by the European Council, who are themselves composed of the various EU heads of state or government. So, yeah, bashing is very easy; working out what's really going on requires a rather different skill.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

working out what's really going on requires a rather different skill.

You care to show us that skill or you prefer to hide it out of modesty? My take is that less democracy in EU means that its easier to rule it and the same goes for the freedom of internet and its control but who is the ruler if not the people? and to what purpose if not service to its citizens?