magicfan101
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- Dec 7, 2010
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i read every post you have written. the basic argument you present is random mutations + natural slection + deep time = every evidence for creation is invalid. your formula is flawed because mutations cause damage to the DNA. nothing in this world exist that has repair system to fix something that is not broken. i keep bringing up mutations because it only fits the creation model of death and decay after Adam's sin. if you want more info on why Adam's sin mattered. i will be more than happy to provide a quick bible review. each one of your counter arguments depends on mutations providing a gain in information in which the benefit was not the result of a specific environment. if you disagree plz provide one example in where a function was gained and the organism as a whole did not become less fit. also it must be able to be passed on to the offspring.if not, your argument is a hypothetical situation.Either magicfan is deliberately insulting my intelligence by ignoring everything I say, or he's insulting his own intelligence by continuing to post the same unsupported nonsense that's already been torn down, buzzed apart by chainsaws, covered in gasoline, set ablaze, and had 3 dozen Croatian midgets take steaming dumps all over it.
nobody can prove anything to an absolute. what i can do is provide enough data points. where a conclusion can be drawn that mutations are harmful to the information in the DNA.My main complaint is that he seems to have no idea what the difference between some and all is, and seems to think some genetic disease means that all mutations must be bad and therefore we are all doomed, and therefore evolution can't exist except to destroy us, therefore we were created by a perfect designer (in spite of crippling, degenerative flaws) out of thin freaking air one day using magic instead of the laws of physics he apparently scribbled on the bathroom wall because this designer is a sadistic nonsense peddler who wishes to inflict his brain-destroying schizophrenia on his own creations by creating piles of evidence that the world was created naturally when all he had to do was wriggle his nose and made the world appear to be old for no reason in order to test ourcredulityfaith.
looking "old" is an objective defition. in your mind what does a "young" earth look like? if the earth looks old you must have something to compare it against. when God made the earth wouldn't he make a hill,rivers,streams, and mountains.
well I'm sorry if i don't see eye to eye with your theory. which states that life came about through random mutations and survival of the fittest selection. which eventually leads someone to believe that life has no real value.Honestly when it comes to Creationism I have never seen more people more proud to reject so much supporting evidence, connecting logic, and predictive theory, and embrace so little unsupported unprovable mythological contradictory nonsense as unassailable fact. It seems to revel in its own ignorance, a trait which is displayed whenever someone doesn't bother to read, understand, and respond to common criticisms or responses to one's own argument.
Instead of treating the opposing advocate as an equal automatically, with respect for their intelligence, and waiting patiently for them to actually do what the bleeding thread says and present some evidence that the universe popped into existence in a frame of time not supported by science (i.e. last thursday or 6000 years ago) I am going to summarily declare their entire argument to be utter garbage and their capacity to debate to be nonexistent until proven otherwise.
I've been patient for thousands of posts now and I am growing tired of seeing only one side have to give evidence, respond to posts, understand what is being said, or acknowledge when the same arguments are being repeated over and over without an intelligible response. I am growing increasingly weary of the opposing side not getting really easy to understand concepts like "complexity does not necessitate design" or "lack of 100% proof for a scientific theory does not automatically mean a wizard did it" or that instead of arguing your points, you can pass the buck and ask us to do it for you by saying "well science doesn't have answers for everything therefore God must have done it prove me wrong." but perhaps most insultingly of all not bothering to grasp key concepts like natural selection (not simply random chance) or even bothering to read up on logical fallacies before posting.
ive presented plenty of arguments for design and complexity. once again all your counter arguments depend on random mutations. natural selection only acts on random mutations. its only a secondary force in the theory of evolution.
I'm presenting evidence for creation so you and anyone reading can respect what the Christianity has to offer. i also agree that religions are mostly harmful and people can often look down on others since were are all in a fallen state. i don't put my faith in a man made religion. its a personal relationship with the creator.I honestly would respect religion more if everything that was sound and rational and logical wasn't constantly under assault by it, and those who didn't believe hadn't been treated like pond scum for the past several thousand years.