Exit Poll: What Civs did you Vote for?

[Palantir30]

Dutch. Too small. Not a very large effect on world history.

Well, this doesnt scream of historical ignorance the way Sorceress does, but it's still inaccurate.

The Dutch had a huge effect on world history, but it's in the economic sphere of influence and not as bluntly recognizeable as a nation that had a lot of guns, boats or swords all in the same place at the same time. Once "world trade" came to mean more than just boats cris-crossing the Mediterranean, the Dutch were the ones that took most of the technologies, economic theories and social changes related to global connections between nations. They deserve a place in the list.

I didnt vote for them, but still...

 

[Dark Khan]

Seljuks(my special option),assyria,sumeria,babylonia,carthage,vikings,hittites and Iroquois

 

[flytyer]

Deffinately the Ottoman Empire. Very stout in Science and also Military.

 

[Grohan]

Babylonia, Carthage, Celts, Iroquois, Korea, Mayans, Ottoman empire and Vikings.
All of the above civs fill many missing spots in world map.

 

[Riothamus]

I think it's more important to see who you DON'T vote for. My nominations on the "why bother?" list:

Scotland. Seriously. Why? It's part of England, even if it is culturally different. Just leave it that way, or at worst, put in the Celts instead.

Austria-Hungary. No. This is not a civilization. It is a mess of everything around it that happened to be an empire for a while. This does not qualify.

Byzantines. We have Romans already. Byzantines are what happen when half your empire gets eaten and you set up shop in the eastern half.

Dutch. Too small. Not a very large effect on world history.

Hittites. Important way back in the day, but not nearly enough to qualify like bigger contenders like Babylon and the Greeks.

Polynesia. Too small and scattered and generally not very internationally important except as transmitters of culture around Asia.

Portugese. Too much like Spain, but smaller and less important. Don't bother.

Holy Roman Empire. We have the Germans and French already, thanks.

*Edited* I promised not to be mean . . .

But I will say that proclaiming historical ignorance does not benefit your arguments.

 

[BlueBomberDude]

I only voted for six:
Austria-Hungary
Babylonia
Byzantine
Carthage
Celts
Ottoman Empire

 

[RX2000]

Napoleon was french. his parents wern't but when he was born in corsica it was a french territory.
the 1805 campaign leading to the battle of Austerlitze(sp?)
In a few months he had defeated a army that out numbered him 1:3. He also beat 2 emperors 1 prince and 5 dukes in a single battle. No one has ever beaten that record.

When he was a child growing up in France, he was always picked on by other children for being a "foreigner." No one in France really embraced him as being French until after they saw what he could do on the battlefield. Then it was "All Hail Mighty Napoleon." Hehe

 

[Carewolf]

I voted for Mayans, Catharge, Ottomans, Vikings, Scotland, Celts and Denmark

Some of the votes are dual representated, but if one can't happen, I will settle for the other.

 

[MattJek]

Dutch. Too small. Not a very large effect on world history.

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can't say
(People just liked it better that way)

 

[Willowmound]

First of all Vikings were never a "nation" so you are all dumb that voted for that.

Neither were the Sumerians, dumbarse, nor the Babylonians, nor the Celts, nor indeed the classical Greeks, to name but a few. Civ isn't a game of nations, it's a game of peoples. Sometimes these fit the nation-format, sometimes they don't.

Oh, and did you say something about wanting more "medieval nations"? There is no such thing, brainiac. The idea of nations is about 200 years old. It forged Germany, split apart Austria-Hungary, and prior to it there were just peoples, people, lords and the ability to project power.

 

[Sorceresss]

Neither were the Sumerians, dumbarse

What a "wordsmith"!

 

[Willowmound]

No one takes you seriously anymore, Sorceresss. You have revealed yourself as a troll, and an ignorant one at that.

 

[Sorceresss]

You have revealed yourself as a troll, and an ignorant one at that.

Still indulging in personal attacks, Mr Wordsmith?

I really don't care if posters who call other forum-posters "dumbarse" and "troll" don't take me seriously.

 

[Willowmound]

Still indulging in personal attacks, Mr Wordsmith?

What? Oh, is this about that time when we had a perfectly civilised conversation until you suddenly changed all your posts for no discernible reason, making everything I'd said look completely random? And I PM'ed you and said that is really not cool, that it's actually quite inconsiderate? That's not a personal attack, my dear.

And what is this obsession you have with my custom title? I make words for a living, get over it.

 

[Xineoph]

I only voted for 7 as there is no other option.

I also voted for Israel.

They are long overdue to be in civilization 4.

 

[The Condor]

And what is this obsession you have with my custom title? I make words for a living, get over it.

Cool, so you like make up stuff for a dictionary and turn it into a word we might use every single day in the future?

 

[Sorceresss]

That's not a personal attack, my dear.

1. Calling the other poster a "dumbarse" and calling me an "ignorant troll" are not personal attacks, dearest?

2. Editing posts is a privilege offered by the Forum's tools. I sometimes edit my posts, most often because I regret certain of my off-topic excesses. I am capable of self-criticism & redemption.

3a. I have yet to see a rigorous definition of the very vague notion of "trolling". If I would accept the definition most often used, I would find a lot of posts are "trolls". Go see the recent Korean thread : most posters there (me included) would qualify to be labeled as "trolls".

3b. Only the forum Moderators have the expert authority to label posts as being "trolls". When that label comes from an ordinary forum-poster, I take it with a grain of salt : it is just a weapon that "flamers" use to moralize & provoke.

 

[MattJek]

No one takes you seriously anymore, Sorceresss. You have revealed yourself as a troll, and an ignorant one at that.

Umm... excuse me... dont make decision for the rest of us ( I mean that in the nicest ways)

 

[The Condor]

Definition of trolls and flaming as an added bonus.

 

[Sorceresss]

Umm... excuse me... dont make decision for the rest of us

THXxx a lot : that moralizing "wordsmith" needed to be reminded of that obvious fact.