Federation of Fanatican Provinces

[GenMarshall]

This is an alliance for members in the FFP. The FFP will galdly accept any province that is within Fanatican's lands. This is not a separate nation. This is an alliance like NATO in Real Life.

Member Provinces
*The Jade Provance - Head of the Alliance
Helenetica
DePaolo
Zarahemla
*The Province of DiSaaMuel
*GrandMaster's province

* Indicates Permanate Council Seat

Rules of the Alliance

• No Member Provance should attack another Member Provance
• We should have a cooperative environment

More rules to come if anyone is willing to post forward a proposal

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

SaaM sends CivGeneral a letter:
Dear CG,
The province which I am in charge of the paper work is called "The Province of DiSaaMuel"

 

[GenMarshall]

Stuck - Recived your letter, and Added you to the Perminate Council Chair.

 

[Civanator]

CG: My province is called DePaolo

Also, what circumstances have to be met to be a permanate council member?

 

[GenMarshall]

Well, I am thinking of having 4 Perm Council Members (The number would increase when we get more Provances into our Alliance). The circumstances to be a Perm Council Member is most importanly, Be an active Player in the RPG. Inactive Players automadicly loose there Council Seat if they are an unexcused absents (I dont count excused Absesnse so long as they eather post in here or in the Leaving thread in the citizens forum.)

Another way to ensure your place in a Council Seat is that each Council Member would have to Nominate someone who is not in a Council seat. Once we have the nomines in place, the entier Alliance would get to PM me the votes (Same reasion as Zarn in the Jedi Council Thread, not to clutter up this thread with votes).
Right now, since we are just starting, I am happy to give the last Seat on a first come first serve baisis.

 

[Civanator]

I'll take it, as I'm very active in the RPG

 

[Grandmaster]

OOC: I have a province? Since when?

And by the way, my province is called "Nova Vaniria"

 

[Civanator]

the three tiles that you own

 

[Grandmaster]

I don't even know what I own.... it would be nice if somebody told me.

 

[Civanator]

Originally posted by Grandmaster
I don't even know what I own.... it would be nice if somebody told me.

CG never told you?

 

[Grandmaster]

Nope. I never even knew he had given me land. I thought it was gonna wait until after the Odyssey was over.

 

[Sir John]

CG: Eherm.... I said Ehrm!!! Why am I not a permanent in the council?? I even ivented the name for this alliance..

and btw: U should add this to the charter:

If a member of the alliance is attacked the all other provinces in the alliance has to defend the attacked nation or declare war against the alliance...

BTW: I wont be away from the rpg this summer, just less active...

 

[Civanator]

Originally posted by Sir John
If a member of the alliance is attacked the all other provinces in the alliance has to defend the attacked nation or declare war against the alliance...

I say it should be changed to:

If a member of the alliance is attacked all the other provinces in the alliance must help defend the attacked province at its request. If a province who's help has been requested refuses to help, they will be ejected from the Alliance and force to pay a 200 gold fine.

 

[Sir John]

hmm... Its ok I guess... but I do think that denying the charter of the alliance should be considered an act of war against the allience..

 

[Grandmaster]

I put my vote towards Civanator's proposal. Just because you don't want to or are unable to help in the defense of the Alliance doesn't mean that you are waging war against it (see: France, 2003.) However, it should be cause for ejection from the alliance and a hefty fine.

 

[Sir John]

GM: I see ur point and it could be like this:

Rejection to help because u dont want to: Ejection from alliance and a fine.
Rejection to help because u cant (good reason must be presented): a Fine..

what about this GM and civ??

 

[Civanator]

Here, as you are innocent before guilty:

If a member of the alliance is attacked all the other provinces in the alliance must help defend the attacked province at its request. If a province who's help has been requested refuses to help, they will be trialed for ejection from the Alliance and forced to pay a 200 gold fine, whether or not they are ejected. The gold will be used towards raising troops for the Alliance.(like the modern-day UN)

 

[Grandmaster]

Sounds good. There are good reasons for noth helping (inadequate troop strength, incapability to defend one's own borders, absence of a civic or military leader). I agree the fine should always be levied. And the trial is a good idea. Perhaps call it a tribunal rather than a trial. Also, one more thing should be added, to make it less likely that member states refuse to help (by removing what some might consider a "good reason"):

The FFP and its charter override all other alliances. In the event of war between the FFP and a non-member state, any member states who are also allied with the non-member must fight for the FFP unless they have another reason for neutrality.

Similar to a (highly unlikely) scenario such as Israel (US ally) attacking a NATO nation (Germany for instance). The US would have to side with Germany and NATO.

 

[Sir John]

I agree..

 

[Grandmaster]

Also, once we have some basic concepts for rules passed in the manner we are doing now, I volunteer to thake them and write them up into a single, conherent, well-worded Charter. Everyone alright with that?