Ffh Nes Ii

[Seon]

Immac, who was that guy?

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Ken, the only feasible way of expansion is conquest

 

[kenkrajen]

not really an option right now. anybody who can answer my question? go 3 posts back, bottom of pg 87

 

[Immaculate]

[*]Administration: Certain buildings (town hall, courthouses) will generate ‘administration points’. A capital generates 2 points automatically. Add all these together and you get your administration value. This will provide a cost modifier for building new cities and marches. This value is helps determine the 'expansion cost modifier':

expansion cost modifier=[(total provincial administration from each province)/(number of cities, including capital *3)]​

does this mean new cities and marches are very expensive? yes, especially if you already have 2 cities
how does one reduce the cost? government buildings, civics that increase 'administration values'
how can i get those buildings and civics? mostly through researching the tech line known as government and leadership.

 

[kenkrajen]

are administration and authority points the same thing? because i don't see anywhere how to improve administration and i don't see where authority points are used.

edit: i'm guessing the two are the same thing. new question

can you have a negative administration value in a city?

 

[orangelex44]

You improve admin with civics, some buildings, perhaps a couple other surprise ways.

I don't know where you found "authority points"...

Yes.

 

[Seon]

Authority points can be increased with law mana, but I haven't seen it's use yet

 

[hbar]

are administration and authority points the same thing? because i don't see anywhere how to improve administration and i don't see where authority points are used.

edit: i'm guessing the two are the same thing. new question

can you have a negative administration value in a city?

Yes, see civic: Economic Stewards. If you have negative admin, it represents rampant corruption and costs you 10 gold per turn. The civic allows a building that grants one stability and one admin point (not in capital), so you can avoid that penalty pretty easily.

Otherwise, I believe the 'City Hall' building at Social Planning and Welfare grants an admin point as well.

 

[hbar]

To: Edsunland
From: The Bannor

We are all in grievous danger from the undead horde at our doorsteps. Our Diviners (Immaculate) have revealed to us that if we are to completely remove the threat, permanently, we will need more then 100 gold to perform a ceremony at the Tomb of Sucellus. The God of Life will strike down those who walk against his will and Edsunland will be free to live in peace once more. There are six nations on Erebus, if each pay an equal sum we will be able to use this ritual for a mere 20 gold, putting out total up to 120 gold.

Every nation of Edsunland, that's the Bannor, Amurites, Hippus, Kuriotates, Kappa, White Mist Elves and Grigori, must pay this amount if we are to survive this age.

Let Junil damn any who refuse this meagre sum.

We Kappa will pay this sum, 20 gold, under one condition. All incoming gold must pass through an accountant from a neutral party and be tallied, and that tally must be made public after the ritual is complete.

We sent our share of the gold 15 years ago when the ritual was first performed. Had all nations done the same, there would be no need to send more. We will not be cheated again.

 

[Ekolite]

Of course. Unfortunately, what neutral party is there that we can all trust? Such a large amount of gold could be tempting to steal for some people, particularly those who would not benefit from destroying the undead, and therefore probably all neutral parties. The Bannor, as the organiser of this event, will take control of the gold and will tally it unless there are any major objections.

 

[Ekolite]

@Immy: You can now make ''groups'' on the forum, which can be private. You might want to have a look, and maybe make a FFHNES2 one. I don't know exactly how private groups work but it might be useful for private diplomacy discusions between players. You might be able to assign a password to a discusion within a group, which could allow specific players to comunicate privately with each other. It could also be used to move OOC posts or general comments out of the main thread if you wanted to do so.

 

[LDiCesare]

The Bannor, as the organiser of this event, will take control of the gold and will tally it unless there are any major objections.

Isn't the event supposed to be done near the Life mana node? Who's going to channle its power across the zombnie infested lands up to Bannor lands? It looks like the elves would be a more logical and neutral party to receive gold and perform the ritual.
Tuan and the Fists of Balance would strongly advise the Grigori against trusting the Bannor with any gold since they first betrayed us centuries ago and failed to provide protection over their vassals recently, thereby proving themselves totally untrustworthy. Whie Mist elves and Kappa sound like more trustable parties.

 

[Ekolite]

The Amurites are performing the ritual, they can collect the gold.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

We will take the money, but we will accept foreign overseers to regulat the gold, and make sure none is lost.

The Amure League

 

[Immaculate]

To potential treasurers:
From The Kuriotates:

Considering the sums we are investing, we too would like to oversee how the sums are spent.

 

[hbar]

Isn't the event supposed to be done near the Life mana node? Who's going to channle its power across the zombnie infested lands up to Bannor lands? It looks like the elves would be a more logical and neutral party to receive gold and perform the ritual.
Tuan and the Fists of Balance would strongly advise the Grigori against trusting the Bannor with any gold since they first betrayed us centuries ago and failed to provide protection over their vassals recently, thereby proving themselves totally untrustworthy. Whie Mist elves and Kappa sound like more trustable parties.

If there are no objections, we will provide accountants to oversee the funding allocation.

 

[Immaculate]

Kol, others:
there is now a FFH NES II discussion group.

 

[kenkrajen]

Could somebody post a link

 

[Northen Wolf]

Could somebody post a link

Ask and you shall get what you want (usually)

Once Immac responds to my message I can tell accurate price.

 

[Northen Wolf]

From: Silver Grass Elves
To: White Mist Elves and their Queen

We know, what our forefathers did, and that we are not worthy enough to be elves. We know we betrayed our, or your, ancient laws, we know, that we cannot be accept into your community, without proving that we can keep honor.

But alas, We are afraid, that we cannot prove this, as a Queen of White Mist Elves, you will certainly know, that Ir-O-Kee lands have been overrun by these "infected". My warriors will keep our promises and we will fight to defend our village and artifact, that our forefathers - your ex-elves started to build. This item was meant as a gift to you, if our warriors should ever think, that we have earned back, what our forefathers lost so long ago... However, we will only be able to complete this, not bring it to you. Perhaps, we will not be able to complete this, but we will do what we can.

I do not beg you to save warriors, who obey my command, I beg you not, to aid in defense of the village and its inhabitants, who you call "Exiled Elves". I beg you not, to accept our soldiers into your ranks - we know we are not worthy enough to be accepted in your ranks.

But I beg you to save these children and elderly people, I ask you not to accept them into your ranks, I ask you, to save them! Take them to your lands, give them most useless plot of land, or tell them to go, they will, but save them from becoming these things. I ask you: not to save my warriors or workers who choose to stay- they won't come even if you ask them, they have to finish what our forefathers started to build.

We will send our wealth, whatever our children and elderly can carry, with them, take it from them by force, or with mercy, but We beg you, do not take their lives.


Signed
Brond Minyature
Leader of the Forgotten House of Silver Grass
Signed
Elrond Minyature
Village Elder and High Magic User