Floating nations

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Link to video.

Link to video.

Link to video.

You've been selected to join a floating community, which one is up to you. They all have their own types of rules, religions and governments, if any.

Would you join your community of choice if you knew there was no turning back? What would your ideal community look like - size, type, hetero/homogeneous, defence capabilities, etc?
 
A Sea stead would essentially be creating a City State with a limited population and most of its resources would need to be imported from elsewhere. It would still have to deal with the International Organizations. If they truly became independent from a mother nation then they would be on their own for things most people take for granted. If they where way out in the ocean and the ocean couldn't provide enough resources and they couldn't get them from somewhere else, they would be screwed and have to abandon it eventually.

If you enough funds and enough like minded people, you could buy an island and start an independent village. At least then you would have some resources and a safe harbor as a base of operations.
 
No thank you! Aquaphobia does not work well with that :ack:

P.S. The videos all gave me "An error occurred." :(
 
Its essentially the same as choosing to live in a different nation to your own.. why would there be no turning back?

I'd like to try one if I had a secure relationship alongside me.
 
Strange. I can see them :confused:

You could choose to live in a purely black, Buddhist, communist society in this scenario. You can't just try it out for fun though. You gain citizenship in this nation and that's it.
 
I would be in. Shaping an experimental society sounds exciting!
However, the current interpretation of international law dose not recognize nations which solely rest on artificial land, as some precedent established, where some rich guy / group tried exactly that. Sorry for not getting anymore specific, but I learned that in my state law class this semester, so I am sure its legit.

As to my ideal society: No idea about the specifics, but as said it would have to be about an experimental society, something a long the lines of shared property / intensive participation throughout economic and political life. Even if it failed, I imagine this could give awesome input on how societies can function and what problems they face, which I am very interested in.
Size? Well.... big enough that it would yield some meaningful observations, small enough so I would have a shot at having a sway in it. Not sure where that leaves me. 10000 perhaps?
 
Well if you are on a cruise ship you are basically in a dictatorship with limited access to the police etc.

From BBC

The UK's Shipping Minister Mike Penning has told the BBC that cruise passengers may not be properly protected if they become victims of serious crime on board.

Mr Penning has told BBC Radio 4's Face the Facts that when cruise ships are on the high seas and serious crime takes place on board, current international law prevents him from providing British passengers with the level of protection they would expect on land.
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In the recent case of Rebecca Coriam from Chester, who disappeared last March while working on a cruise ship, only one police officer from the Bahamas was sent to investigate. That, the family say, was only because they insisted on a police investigation.
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Cruise ships do have security officers but they are paid employees and according to Geoff Furlong, a former Scotland Yard detective who worked for six years as a security officer in the 1990s, this can cause a conflict of interest.

When he was investigating a rape on board a cruise ship in the Caribbean, it had to be abandoned.

"I sealed the cabin, I told the steward on duty that the cabin was to remain locked and to remain untouched, it required forensic examination… and when I woke up, I was informed that the mattress involved on the bed had been dumped overboard."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16592785

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b019fxjm/Face_the_Facts_Wide_Berth_to_Justice/
 
Anyone who likes that idea should be forced to play Bioshock.
 
With global warming & sea level rise I'd be a little nervous. Any tsunami nearby & you'd be screwed.

Kind of a neat idea though. When I was a lad I had the idea/fantasy to buy an island & perform breeding experiments on it, trying to create super large semi-wild housecats & create a sustainable ecosystem with plants, primary consumers (is that the right word, been almost two decades since I took biology) and predators all balanced.

King of my own little world so to speak.
 
It clearly has the potential of being the scene of a horror movie.
 
tsunamis would be of no concern to a floating city unless they are close to shore.
 
Monster waves is another issue though, and they can occur at sea if I'm not mistaken...
 
And get taken over by pirates? No thank you. There's a reason these don't exist (besides economic reasons). You need protection from somebody, otherwise anyone can come in and take what they want and they won't be breaking any laws.

Monster waves is another issue though, and they can occur at sea if I'm not mistaken...

rogue waves. I was told about them in the Navy, but I figured they were just teasing me, and that they didn't exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave
 
And get taken over by pirates? No thank you. There's a reason these don't exist (besides economic reasons). You need protection from somebody, otherwise anyone can come in and take what they want and they won't be breaking any laws.
Haven't you seen Waterworld? It's like having a fortress with a huge water grave.
 
It would be very expensive and such a place could never be self sufficient. And so it would either have to be a place for the very rich, or it would have to find a way to make a great deal of money. Eventually it's pretty much inevitable that some government would have to bail them out.
 
I've seen Bioshock.

I think I'll stay on land for now.
 
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