2metraninja
Defender of Nabaxica
Only if t250 is enough to destroy CivFr. We dont want a scenario that t250 we are in the middle of War.
What if CP wont agree to the NAP? Surely at this point, they will see the writing on the wall and insist that we all give CivFr a NAP too?
Right. This is what we said to each-other just this morning:
аз: morning
I will send you the NAP offer most probably tonight, so far it looks good on our team
I started NAP negotiations with Ot4e too
he is like: "I will need guarantees I wont get doubled by you and MZ"
Изпратено в 09:55, петък
MZprox: hi
Изпратено в 11:43, петък
аз: hi
MZprox: no one should underestimate the Aztec's potential, though they have relatively small army now
аз: is it indeed small army?
MZprox: relatively
аз: I count the French army in their service too
MZprox: then not
аз: and french have no agreement with anyone to not gift army
same with ot4e - he have no agreement to not accept army
MZprox: I'm uncomfortable making plans with either you ar aztec against the third one.. even more uncomfortable thinking about that the two of us would plot against us so I rather not concern myself. I think attacking the maya would clear up things
аз: I still cant decide if French are just side-kicks to Ot4e for personal reasons or he promised them something real
MZprox: two of you**
аз: yes, same here, I have scruples to really discuss things
I was thinking something regarding French
we can know if Ot4e is so fond on them if we ask him to join our war?
though I am not sure I can take one more land split with ot4e without attacking him immediately for his arrogance
Изпратено в 11:51, петък
MZprox: I suggest we leave ot4e out of this. He will know about our plan anyway once we cancel nap with maya ten turns before our attack
Изпратено в 11:54, петък
аз:it is very important that we secure NAP with him after our current t210 NAP too, otherwise it will be weird
I think even 10-15 turns more will do the trick
once French are crippled, ot4e wont risk siding with them I think
but it is highly possible that he makes us extending NAP with Frenchies obligatory for us to have a NAP
what we do then?
I already regret we did not signed NAP with him earlier while we were still important to each-other
btw, some interesting thing about NAP clauses
I was trying to get Ot4e's understanding of what "NAP to turn XX + 10 turns" means
he explained to me it means that the earliest date such NAP can be cancelled is tXX+10
what is your exact agreement with CivFR?
is there a possibility they consider your NAP as being able to be void earliest at t220?
Изпратено в 12:00, петък
MZprox: if they think that they will be surprised at t210
аз: lol
I wanted ot4e to clarify this sort of clauses for me and this is how he explained it to me
Изпратено в 12:02, петък
MZprox: """meaning that NAP cancellation must be notified at least 10 turns in advance; of course NAP can't be cancelled before turn 210)."""
аз: from my practice it means something else, but it is natural to have differences in understanding
MZprox: that's what they wrote
аз: ah, good
this is how I normally treat such clause
until so far
MZprox: we notify them about th cancellation b4 t200 then it cancels at t210
аз: yes, exactly
ok then, no surprises here
so, now it is my turn to get NAP with ot4e
in the possible case that we dont get NAP with ot4e, how you see things?
MZprox: I doubt they won't sign nap, but i lso doubt they would attack you alone
аз: why alone, they will have frenchies on their side
we have borders with both on our most distant corners
Изпратено в 12:06, петък
MZprox: we will probably start the war sooner than they would attack you. it could become an interesting situation, but we won't be the one who breaks the nap with ot4e
Изпратено в 12:09, петък
MZprox: so you and me against maya, maya and aztec against you, but we can only fight maya and not aztec
but as i said they will sign nap with you, i1m sure
they might demand that you sign nap with maya too, as you said
i don1t know what then..
probably better to prepare for world war
now i1m afk for a while
Изпратено в 12:12, петък
аз:world war sounds fun
I'm off to lunch too