Fred Phelps close to death
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I was responding to the notion that they never harmed anyone. It may sound silly, but I think we can all admit that saying extremely offensive things and disturbing funerals with senseless protests is a form of harm even if it's not physical. Intentionally inflicting emotional distress can be damaging. But still yet, I wasn't saying WBC members should have their rights deprived and I'm curious what rights you thought I wanted to deprive them of.
No, if you say something offensive, it's on you, not the offended parties. It's true you shouldn't let nuts get to you, but that doesn't change the fact the WBC has offended a lot of people which was my point. Besides, picketing a child's funeral is an acute form of insult.
I've always thought he had a mental illness because I can't imagine someone who is same having such extreme views and behaving that way.
My uncle is a baptist minister and from what I've heard, seems like churches have politics like everywhere and it doesn't take much for people to fall out over disagreements. I wouldn't be surprised if he just alienated a lot of people in his church.
My uncle is a baptist minister and from what I've heard, seems like churches have politics like everywhere and it doesn't take much for people to fall out over disagreements. I wouldn't be surprised if he just alienated a lot of people in his church.
I was hoping he would be around to protest my funeral with "God Hates Tags" signs.
Picketing his funeral "God hates Fred Phelps"-style would be counterproductive.
What would be better would be picketing by gays asking God to heal Fred Phelps.
What would be far better still would be him getting dropped in the ground without any fanfare or media mention, because his particular style of jackassery had already been dismissed and forgotten from the public consciousness.
What would be better would be picketing by gays asking God to heal Fred Phelps.
What would be far better still would be him getting dropped in the ground without any fanfare or media mention, because his particular style of jackassery had already been dismissed and forgotten from the public consciousness.
Evie
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And what would be truly awesome would be gays coming to his funeral with "God, Forgive him, he knew not what he did" style messages.
Both condemnation AND the moral high ground rolled into one.
Both condemnation AND the moral high ground rolled into one.
Leonel
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I think an empty funeral would be more fitting. No one to bury him other than the grave diggers and priest.
civver_764
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Surely not, as it is the offended parties that are choosing to care what the offenders think.
Evie
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The notion that you can "Not care" when someone tell you that your son/father/whatever deserved to die is pathetic in and of itself, and show a level of disconnect with what being human means so completely ludicrous that it's hard not to wonder if the...people...who cook that one up are themselves human at all.
Gori the Grey
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I don't understand one phrase in the quote given in the OP.
What is the son driving at when he says Phelps was "Destroyed by the monster he made"?
Is his dying understood to be somehow a direct result of his "God hates f***" campaign?
What is the son driving at when he says Phelps was "Destroyed by the monster he made"?
Is his dying understood to be somehow a direct result of his "God hates f***" campaign?
Here is an episode of irreligiosophy, where they interview Nathan Phelps. In which he talks about what it was like to live in the cult, how he got out and finally he talks about the Church practice and theology. It something that I think everybody should listen to.
http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1408
http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1408
civver_764
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I think you're selling yourself short. You have more control over what you care about than you realize.
I'm not telling you to think that your loved one deserved to die, or to not love them, or to not grieve when they die, just to get in the habit of not letting other people's opinions get to you. It's possible I promise.
I think it's a distinction between caring about opinions of people who you respect, and opinions of people you have no regard for. If some random schmoe came up to me on the street and told me my mother was an abusive whore (or whatever, come up with something nasty on your own), I don't think it would cause me any emotional pain at all. Even less pain if a well-known nutball did the same thing. However, if a family member whose opinion I valued told me that, then yes I'd certainly be hurt.
There's also the function of them getting into your space, which can be annoying in its own right.
Evie
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It really isn't.
Oh, you may have convinced yourself, for now, that you don't care. You may face the world as if you didn't care. But believe me, deep down, all their opinions? You do care. They're worming their way around your head, repressed. And one day, sooner or later, you're going to realize you care, and it's all going to backfire and explode in your face.
Pretending not to care can only get you so far.
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This is one of the most disgusting things I've read on CFC.
Phrossack
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A non-Israeli Israeli nationalist preemptively excuses rape by soldiers. The funny things one sees.
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