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Deity
Simple Question really. I consider it a form of insurance. How 'bout you?
Verbose said:It would seem to depend on whether you consider society to be made up of a bunch of individuals, with no obligations towards each other, or as a group of people with a common destiny.
MobBoss said:If you dont do a single thing but still get it.......its a handout.
Sorry...I just dont feel the need to pay for someones methadone treatments.
Or their 12 step program.
Or any of the rest of the crap people should be held responsible for, but do anyway....and then depend upon the productive people to bail them out time after time after time.
covok48 said:Sounds dandy doesn't it. Problem is that advocates of a universal healthcare system leave one critical word out when debate the topic: rationing.
There's simply not enough medical services or money in the world to insure even minimum coverage , so the result will simply be a small check in the mail or a $10 savings or something of that nature and months long waiting lists to get critical operations.
And with the millions of illegal immigrants flooding the US ever year who will provide for them? Certainly not themselves since they pay no taxes (and even if made legal, wouldn't pay enough taxes to support the program).
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it works in small countries with relatively stable populations with high incomes (ex: Scandinavia) but in countries the size and scope of the US with clear givers and takers, it isn't feasible.
King Flevance said:@MobBoss: You pay for murdrers to have food to eat as it is. Why would you not pay for someone to have healthcare that has a disability?
Mr. Dictator said:oh because once someone screws up they're screwed for life right
wwjd? leave them in the streets?
please strive to be like christ instead of just saying that its impossible to be as good as him. we all know but at least trying to help people is good
MobBoss said:Tell you what...you put those people who continue addictive behavior into an institution like criminals are in prison and I will pay for it.
But we are not talking diabilities here. We are talking people who LIKE taking drugs and alcohol and such and will not respond to treatment. I have no desire to subsidize someones "good times" with my money thank you very much.
MobBoss said:Obviously you dont know much about addiction do you?
Most likely he would feed them, as I have done in the past. He sure as hell wouldnt hand them a bottle, or a needle or throw cash at them.
Unlike many here, I have actually spent time feeding homeless people. That is a valid need. But I dont endorse programs that "enable" people to continue in their destructive lifestyles. That is simply NOT what Jesus would do thank you very much.