I despise calling anything 1 **** plaza, center, tower, whatever. It's pretentious, arrogant, and stinks of the lowest level of marketing hackery.
Freedom Tower No More!
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I despise calling anything 1 **** plaza, center, tower, whatever. It's pretentious, arrogant, and stinks of the lowest level of marketing hackery.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Ugly modernist refrigerator boxes? They were already some of the most imposingly unattractive buildings on the planet, I'm not sure we need to resurrect that horrible aesthetic.
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
They don't hate our freedom.. they just think we're culturally backwards! Quick, quick, invest in the arts!
Narz
keeping it real
Sounds good, though I don't really care their much.
Why? The WTC's were not particularly attractive (inside or out).
Gogf
Indescribable
They knock it down, it goes right back up.
general_kill
Deity
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To reiterate what I originally stated, we used "freedom" to help justify their deaths. I do not believe, as you are insinuating, that we invaded purely to kill Iraqis.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
Actually, that connotation only exists because you made it.
You don't see anybody saying we should rename the Statue of Liberty.
If anything should be considered creepy, it's the things being said by people like you and GK:
It doesn't matter if somebody (perhaps, in your opinion, George Bush) abused freedom for something. Freedom remains a good thing.general_kill in the OP said:
Gogf
Indescribable
Okay, but you're misunderstanding the cause-and-effect relationship here. We didn't kill a bunch of Iraqis and then try to justify it with the word "freedom." That's nutso conspiracy stuff right there. We invaded Iraq (in the process killing some Iraqis) IN ORDER TO free Iraq.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
Amen to that. The best way to thumb our collective noses at Al Qaeda would be to put the same damn towers right back up again in the same damn places and give them the same damn name.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
It should be pointed out that the American military always goes out of its way to avoid killing innocent bystanders--that's why we use smart bombs in crowded areas instead of cheap unguided Mark 82's.
We didn't use the word "freedom" in order to kill Iraqis. We used it in order to get at the bad ones such as Saddam while killing as few innocent Iraqis as possible.
CaptainF
The Professional Poster
Yes, but not the sort of "Freedom" the gubbamint would have you aspiring towards.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I think I would prefer creating a park on the sight of the towers, perhaps will pools marking the spot where the towers once stood.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
Eminently true--and applicable to both George Bush AND Barack Obama.
WHOA, wait, calm down a second. Here's the point. Right now, Obama is planning to take away our property rights and 2nd Amendment rights, among others. No matter which party is running the White House, one or another of our rights is in jeopardy.
The only thing that changes is which ones. That's what I like about the U.S. government--it flip-flops often enough that neither side can significantly advance their agenda.
innonimatu
the resident Cassandra
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And ill chosen, especially as world trade has come crashing down over the last year...
Narz
keeping it real
Being stubborn & not evolving is their racket not ours.
You're not serious, right?
Annex
Tyranny and Mutation
So what about 1,337 World Trade Center?
Shekwan
Kim Chi Quaffing Celt
Thats so low key it borders on being unamerican.
It should be as garish, loud and offenesive to the senses as possible. That'd show those terrorists.
Annex
Tyranny and Mutation
Perfection
The Great Head.
8 years 10 stories, so for 108 stories that's only 80 some more years to go!
