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What would Jesus drive?

As a Jew I can't comment on Jesus but Yahweh favored Dodge pickups. In Exodus Moses’ followers are warned not to go up a mountain until ‘the Ram’s horn sounds a long blast.’

Badoom boom...
 
Jesus wouldn't drive. I would chauffeur him anywhere he wanted to go.
 
Keshik said:
Jesus wouldn't drive. I would chauffeur him anywhere he wanted to go.
I think you have to wait in the line for that chance.

There would be one big messy and bloody fight before it's decided who gets to drive the car of Jesus.

WW3 would probably start in order to sort out who gets that priviledge...
 
Rambuchan said:
It is used by both sides, yes, indeed we are all kicking ourselves that we didn't start dealing with this most urgent problem earlier.
The reason we didn't is because we've 473 other equally urgent problems, and not enough resources to deal with them all. For example, starving people in Third World nations really don't give a crap about global warming just now. Global warming could flood large parts of the planet? Anti-nuclear activists were worried that World War 3 would destroy the whole thing.

You're the President of the U.S.; you've got the money, manpower, and resources to stop World War 3 or Global Warming. Not both. Pick one.
 
BasketCase said:
You're the President of the U.S.; you've got the money, manpower, and resources to stop World War 3 or Global Warming. Not both. Pick one.
Imagine if you had been President in WWII...

"We can either fight Germany or Japan. Pick one. Oh, and the one we do not fight might get the bomb before us"
 
FearlessLeader2 said:
You know, given how close we are to Armageddon, now might not be the best time to crack jokes at the Lord's expense.

We're all betting on him having a sense of humor. ;)

Well I'm all for protecting the enviroment, and the Bible actually commands that, I just don't put it in front of protecting human beings.
 
Revelation 11:18 NIV
The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great— and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

Attention greens: Jesus is coming back to destroy polluters!
 
FearlessLeader2 said:
You know, given how close we are to Armageddon, now might not be the best time to crack jokes at the Lord's expense.
Those who actually knew jesus, lived with him and heard him speak, thought that armagedon was coming right after jesus died. They didn't rely on the unwritten bible, they heard everything he had to say over three years (which was far more than is contained in the bible), and still they got it wrong. The guys who would later write the NT got it wrong. And you think that you even have a clue when it's actually going to happen? The bible has only a very few selected sayings of jesus. A few hundred words. How many of his words spoken during his ministry (let alone his whole life) are we missing? If you knew everything that jesus said, do you think that it would change what you believe? Your claim that you know more about what jesus said about armagedon (or anything else for that matter) than his apostles is just plain silly. They didn't have the bible to explain things to them; they had the man himself.
 
FearlessLeader2 said:
You know, given how close we are to Armageddon, now might not be the best time to crack jokes at the Lord's expense.

for your kind we are always close to armageddon.
 
Jesus would drive an SUV as he'd use all the resources that were given to Man by God. Furthermore, he doesn't have to worry about Him smiting Man by whiping out humanity, as He promised after the Flood to never again do something that catastrophic.
 
Birdjaguar said:
And you think that you even have a clue when it's actually going to happen?

Why, yes, we do. Although we do not know the day, we do know the general time.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door."


We know that it is near, because we can see the signs leading up to it.

Birdjaguar said:
Those who actually knew jesus, lived with him and heard him speak, thought that armagedon was coming right after jesus died.

This statement is factually wrong. John wrote Revelation, the only book which mentions Armageddon. John outlived all the other apostles, and wrote the Book of Revelation as an old man. The other apostles would not have known of this prediction. Jesus revealed His future career to John, more fully than He did the other apostles.

Also, to suggest that the apostles believed that Jesus 2nd coming would immediately follow His 1st, ignores the great commission.

Acts 1:4-8
On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"

He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

In that day, travel was very slow. The apostles knew that the gospel had to be preached "to the ends of the earth". None of them saw this occur during their lifetime. No, those who lived and talked with Jesus while He walked the Earth, were more concerned about spreading the gospel, than about Armageddon. History bears this out.

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. I yield the floor. :blush:
 
Basketcase, it is only ignorance of history to claim that the Allies simply picked one problem to solve, while ignoring the other. Indeed the Allies, and especially USA had quite a thing going on in the Pacific. When Germany surrendered, Japan was already on the defensive, and had in reality already lost the war.

It is the same with global warming. We can try to do something about it, while solving other problems too! Britain can do it. Denmark can do it. You can do it.


Besides I find it funny how you're always trying to come up with excuses against global warming. First it was "I don't believe it" (Yeah, basically it was that). And now when even your President changed his stance on that one, it's "But there are other more urgent problems"

Excuses!
 
storealex said:
Basketcase, it is only ignorance of history to claim that the Allies simply picked one problem to solve, while ignoring the other.
That's exactly what the Allies did. World War II was one of the few parts of world history I actually paid attention to--an epic tale of Hitler getting his sorry pathetic ass kicked. A true tale, to boot.

The Allies put most of their offensive strength into beating the crap out of Germany. It turned out to be a good decision, because it didn't take much to whack Japan.

We can put a piddly amount of effort into solving all of the world's problems at once, or we can put lots of effort into solving one. Which method to employ, I leave to the politicians to figure out.

storealex said:
Besides I find it funny how you're always trying to come up with excuses against global warming. First it was "I don't believe it" (Yeah, basically it was that). And now when even your President changed his stance on that one, it's "But there are other more urgent problems"

Excuses!
No excuses. My stance on global warming remains the same. I think it's been hopelessly politicized, and the scientists on both sides of the issue have been poisoned and aren't studying it objectively.

I am not saying "there are now more urgent problems". We have always had 473 different problems to solve, and the human race has always been divided against pieces of itself on which ones are actually the most urgent. Starving people in Africa don't give a flying crap how scared you are of global warming, bud. They genuinely do not care about global warming.

That's what they think, not what I think. My own idea of which problems are "most urgent" are my own, and these days I mosty don't bother to enumerate them in order of importance. Except for dictatorships. Those are REAL bad, because they prevent most other problems from being solved.

Edit: Make that 474 problems. You and I wrestling with each other is #474. :)
 
classical_hero said:
What would jesus drive? I don't think he would need to drive. He would just walk everywhere.
He'd drive that secret government car that runs on water.
 
Quasar1011 said:
Revelation 11:18 NIV
The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great— and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

Attention greens: Jesus is coming back to destroy polluters!

When in doubt - Post ancient poems from a book.

;)

Can I quote some LOTR too?

classical_hero said:
What would jesus drive? I don't think he would need to drive. He would just walk everywhere.

Would you give him a lift if he was hitch-hiking?

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