Future history

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In this thread, we write a general history of things pretending we are in some date in the future, be it 2012, 2050 or 2100. Try to keep it reasonably general, and make the predictions somewhat realistic (So say, China vs Formosa/Taiwan is OK, but Andorra rises up and conquers all Europe isnt), but it dosent have to be 100% realistic, just please stick to things which are actually possible. If you are making a prediction for a date far in the distance, please give some background (so if the UK and US are enemies, please give some reason how this came about).

I suggest a timeline of major events might be an appropriate structure to posts.
 
So, how does this actually work? Do I just post stuff and other people continue?


I dont envision it as being continuous. Here I'll give a quick idea of what I mean, and do a full one later:

World History, 2008 - 2050

2008 - John McCain elected president of USA

2009 - Huge bomb practically destroys Time's Square. al Qaeda claim responsibility. Russia and Georgia almost go to war after Russian diplomat assasinated in Tblisi.

2010 - US/Israeli airstrikes destroy much of Irans nuclear programme. In retaliation, Hizb'Allah murders US ambassadior to Saudi Arabia. Iran accpeted into Shanghai Co Operation Organisation, which moves toward becoming a formal military alliance


etc.
 
Which part?
probably this: ;)
RedRalphWiggum said:
2008 - John McCain elected president of USA

2007
chad discovers a vast underground lake, bigger than Great Britain (fact - source).
starting that year several water engineering conglomarates begin investing huge sums into irrigating and using that water for africa. [insider information here ;)]

2010
plans for 10000 wells are ready and funding for said project procured from various international groups.
first desalination plant begins working in somalia.

2015
the drought in mid africa is now checked, people begin returning to thier homes.
people are busy rebuilding instead of civilwarring.
2020
the new stability in the area draws out many mineral mining bodies, and massive diamond mines are discovered.
also a major Middle african federation is formed. its purpose is to present a unified body against the financial power of the EU and the US.
A popular movement begins demanding preservation of the natural resources of africa and a vast reservation is set aside. it is financed by eager europeans that wish to see an elephant of 50.

2040
middle africa is now the 4th largest economy in the world (following China, EU, and the US).
they have 3 seats in the UN Security council.

*something along these lines is already happening....
 
Ha! Check this out, maybe some of my predictions arent so far fetched:

From ria

MOSCOW, April 15 (RIA Novosti) - The Shanghai Cooperation Organization's decision on whether to admit Iran will depend on general plans for expansion that could see other states join, the head of the group said on Tuesday.

Tehran, which currently holds observer status in the alliance, has long sought to become a full member of the SCO, a security alliance which comprises Russia, China and four Central Asian states and is seen as a counterbalance to U.S. and NATO influence in Asia.

"The consideration of the bid [by Iran] will depend on a political decision on whether to expand our organization," Secretary General Bolat Nurgaliyev said during a Moscow-Beijing video conference hosted by RIA Novosti.

He said Iran's request has already been addressed to Tajikistan, which currently presides over the organization. The other three Central Asian members are Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan.

Nurgaliyev said several other countries are also considering joining the organization. "We see this as positive evidence that our organization is needed and participation in its activities is useful."

He said there are no timelines for SCO accession set out in the organization's documents, but that there are differences among member states on the issue of expansion.

"The issue of SCO expansion is important to us, and our organization is open to cooperation with other organizations and associations, but maintaining its efficiency must remain the key factor while considering bids for SCO membership," the secretary general said.

Mongolia received observer status in 2004, and India, Iran and Pakistan followed suit in 2005. Besides Iran, Pakistan has also been lobbying for full membership.

The bloc - which primarily addresses security issues but has recently moved to embrace energy projects - has indefinitely postponed accepting new members, but pledged closer cooperation with the observer states.

Speaking at the SCO summit in Kyrgyzstan in August 2007, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said, "Everyone agreed that the moratorium should be preserved for some time yet," adding that the alliance "agreed to involve observer states more actively in practical projects."

The issue of SCO expansion will be on the agenda of an expert-level forum in Beijing in May. "I think recommendations by experts and political analysts will be precious for determining our approaches to this issue," Nurgaliyev said.

Russia and China have been cautious over admitting Iran, embroiled in a long-running dispute with the West and Israel over its controversial nuclear program and alleged support for radical groups in Lebanon and other countries.

Both China and Russia have, however, major commercial interests in Iran. The energy-hungry Asian giant wants Iranian oil and gas and to sell weapons and other goods to the country. Moscow also hopes to sell more weapons and nuclear energy technology to Tehran.

The Kremlin also needs Iran's endorsement for a multinational arrangement to exploit the Caspian Sea's energy resources.

The SCO Council of Heads of State will hold a regular meeting in Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, in August this year. The summit will gather leaders of Russia, China and four ex-Soviet Central Asian states. Representatives of Iran, India, Mongolia, and Pakistan, as well as Afghanistan and some other states will also attend the meeting.

"The documents for the summit in Dushanbe are being prepared, and the final agenda will be approved in Tajikistan at a meeting of SCO foreign ministers in July," Nurgaliyev said.
 
2016: The Terrestrial Planet finder detects four terrestrial worlds aroud Alpha Centauri 1 and three around Alpha Centauri 2. The Alpha Centauri 1 system mimics our own, with the third world having 10% oxygen in it's atmosphere and a gravity of only 10% more of our own...

2017: At least ten terrestrial worlds are detected orbiting the Tau Ceti System. At least three of them our within the habitiable zone.

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2035: A probe is launched to the Alpha Centauri system. It will take about 87 years to get there.

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2046: The Crusaders win power in the western United States and begin a war of "Purification" against the "Cyborgs" and cybernetics. Anyone found with cybernetics has their implants surgically removed.
2057: With the last of the Rockey Mountain strongholds destroyed, the Cyborgs are defeated. Most have already fled to the Saraha Desert, where they started a new colony.
2073: Tensions have built up between the Cyborg nation in North Africa and a few of its neigbors, such as Israel. Most of the Cyborgs have converted to Islam and in June, launch a full scale nuclear attack against the Israeli positions along the Suez Cannal. The Israeli army is destroyed and by September, Israeli and Palestine falls. The United State and the EU prepare their forces to face the numberical and technological superior Cyborg forces.

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2122: The probe finally arrives at Alpha Centauri. Alpha Centauri 1-3 is volcanically active and has no higher life forms except for algae.

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2218: An American/Orbitial mission of colonization is launched to Alpha Centauri. The voyage will take 90 years.

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2235: An interstellar mission is launched toward Tau Ceti by Cyborg-Muslims to a world that appears to be a desert world, which they have deemed "New Mecca". The trip will take about 400 years.

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2308: The manned American-Obitial mission arrives around Alpha Centauri and estabilshes a colony.


2385: The Caldarian Martian colonists launches their first interstellar space craft to the Tau Ceti system. The trip is expected to take about 200 years. Thanks to advances in medical science, humans can expect to live hundreds of years.


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10,000AD (sometime therein): K'rok, the Son of Areth surveys his lands. He is the ruler of the Karas tribe, they have lived in this valley for a millenium. Under three suns, a bright one, a not so bright one and a dim red one, he watches his slave-peasants work, the Logi, small, diminutive humans that are a third of his size. They are a slave race and their sole reason for living is to work the land. If K'rok were to might a person from the early 21st century, he'd stand two feet over them, muscular and with dark skin, due to UV radiation. Millenium of fighting in this hostile desert world has created a feudal warrior class. K'rok knows nothing of Earth, or the UN or of Chistianity or Islam. He knows nothing of technology, most of which was lost thousands of years ago. He just knows he has to do what he and his tribe can do to survive. And if that means using his sword, he will.
 
2035: A probe is launched to the Alpha Centauri system. It will take about 87 years to get there.

2218: An American/Orbitial mission of colonization is launched to Alpha Centauri. The voyage will take 90 years.
Ummm, Ral, I don't mean to nitpick, because I actually liked that 'history' but even at our current level of technology we could get ships to Alpha Centauri quicker than this.
 
2015: SCO is formally declared to be a mutual defence pact between China, Russia/Belarus, the former central Asian SSR's, Kazahstan, Iran and Mongolia. China and Russia are clearly dominant, withy China being top dog. Many consider this declaration to be a defence against possible NATO intervention in eastern Ukraine and Formosa/Taiwan.

2017: after another divisive election, civil war erupts in Ukraine between Western and Russian leaning regions. Moscow pledges to lend moral support to Donetsk, the EU formally accepts Ukraine as a member, although Kiev clearly does not control the entire country. Late in the year a ceasefire is declared between both factions in Ukraine. Serbia is accepted into the SCO, the first wholly non-Asian country to do so.

2020: Ukraine is formally divided into two countries, the western half joining the EU and the estern, Russian speaking half becoming independent in theory but in practise part of Russia. Riots in protest break out in Warsaw, Talinn, and Kiev.

2021: China, by now economically on par with the US, declares its intent to reintegrate Formosa as part of the PRC. no timeline is given, but tensions rise as a result of this announcement. Shia dominated Iraq threatens war with Saudi Arabia if it does not stop funding Sunni dissidents. SCO declares a position of non-intervention should war break out. Strongly Pro-American govts elected in Poland, Czech Republic and the Baltic states.

2026: EU makes long-expected announcement that it will not tolerate its members foreign policies being dictated from outside Europe. this is seen as a warning to the SCO and the US. NATO, in a period of long decline, begins to unravel. France, Germany, Italy and Holland leave the alliance. Poland and the baltic nations seceed from the EU and reaffirm their loyalty to NATO.


TBC...
 
Its already an observer state, its not beyond the bounds of possibility that in years to come, sandwiched between a Superpower and an energy superpower, it would change allegience.
 
Ummm, Ral, I don't mean to nitpick, because I actually liked that 'history' but even at our current level of technology we could get ships to Alpha Centauri quicker than this.

??? Even if we went crazy and built an Orion Drive using the entire worlds nuclear stockpiles it still take in the region of 120+ years to get to Alpha centuri.

Once fusion reactors get off the ground we'll talk.
 
How about this?

2008: Giving in to world opinion, and hoping to increase foreign trade, China grants semi-autonomy to Tibet. This combined with one of the most efficiently run Olympics in history improves China's world reputation significantly.

2009: One of the largest oil reserves of all time is discovered in China. OPEC is not about to invite a nation that is run by infidels into the cartel. This is fine with China as they want to explore their options as an independent oil exporter.

2010: With Hong Kong and Singapore as models, the Chinese continue to liberalize their economy. China still presents itself as a communist nation, but no "true believers" exist in the government. Communism is simply used to perpetuate the dictatorship, which is becoming increasingly liberal. Thie Chinese people enjoy increased freedom and continue to increase productivity. The industrialized nations continue to move operations to China.

2011: A new oil cartel composed of China, Mexico, and Venezuela is formed to compete with OPEC. A price war develops between the cartels. This combined with the continuous improvements in alternative energy technologies in the west causes the price of oil to drop to its lowest level since 1960.

2012: In an effort to please their Catholic trade partners, accomodate the many foreigners now working in their country, and continue improving their world image, China adopts religious freedom. Within a few short years, China becomes the fastest growing Christian nation in the world.

2020: The middle east no longer holds the western world's interest. The industrialized countries have stopped meddling in their affairs several years ago. As a result, the area enjoys one of the longest periods of peace in its history (six months? maybe more).

2050: There is now only one super power in the world and it is not the U. S. The American economy has been booming for several decades. Some of this can be attributed to the fact that we are no longer doing those things that a super power is expected to do. We have learned that they are more expensive than they are worth.

China has developed into a rather benign super power. Why should they be otherwise? What could military aggression give them that they don't already have?

2200: China has become a democracy by now. Its people enjoy one of the highest standards of living in history. For many years now Chinese manufacturing firms have been building facilities in African nations in order to take advantage of the lower production costs and less expensive labor. They have also been instrumental in developing the vast natural resources that have been previously untapped on that continent. In about another hundred years the Chinese economy will become based on the service industry. It will depend upon consumerism and increased debt to keep afloat. The old traditions of thrift and hard work have become a thing of the past.

The Western world is somewhat like the grandparents who watch their children raising their families, shake their heads and smile alot.

I probably don't need to continue as I am sure you can see where this is leading.
 
I hope that someone from every country can provide a 'wank' featuring thier own nation/ethnic background/political idealogy.

We still need a Russiawank, Ameriwank, Eurowank and some latinowanks.

10,000AD (sometime therein): K'rok, the Son of Areth surveys his lands...

I have the image of Captian Kirk from the indians in space episode of Star Trek... "I AM KIIIRROOOCK!"
 
Citedon, I can definitely see your final few items reaching fruition.
However, I see your first point as more than somewhat implausible, which then kind of screws up the path the rest of your dates take :P

Still, great read that I can see happening (with a different starting point, though).
 
2009 the world has still not recovered from the economic depression.
 
2200: China has become a democracy by now. Its people enjoy one of the highest standards of living in history. For many years now Chinese manufacturing firms have been building facilities in African nations in order to take advantage of the lower production costs and less expensive labor. They have also been instrumental in developing the vast natural resources that have been previously untapped on that continent. In about another hundred years the Chinese economy will become based on the service industry. It will depend upon consumerism and increased debt to keep afloat. The old traditions of thrift and hard work have become a thing of the past.

I don't think it'll take 200 years for China to become a democracy, i believe it'll take far less. America as a nation was only really born just over 200 years ago.
 
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