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Where does American money come from? Sources indicate that America is economically dominated by Byzantine and Spanish merchants. Sources also indicate that America owes both these states a large sum of money.

Since when?

American money comes from salt mines under the great lakes, from industry in the cities, from farms in the western portion of the nation.
 
Since when?

American money comes from salt mines under the great lakes, from industry in the cities, from farms in the western portion of the nation.
The Western portion of the nation was never claimed and the Salt Lakes are owned by another nation. Read the thread mang.
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If you can come up with a semi-plausible way for this to work, be my guest.

Adjudication on N. America:

U.S.A. controls most of the East Coast, more so than in OTL. They control the Toronto region as well as Michigan. They haven't managed to push farther west, so losing the west coast states can't happen.

@mythmonster2 - Thanks. Now I have to come up with another 30 colors for the map. :mad:
 
@mythmonster2 - Thanks. Now I have to come up with another 30 colors for the map. :mad:
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Well, you could perhaps have all the Caribbean in one color and have it recognized as "Independent Caribbean Islands" or something like that.

As for the above, perhaps a middle ground is in order? Maybe Spanish and Byzantine investors own a significant portion of American mines, industry, and commercial farms?
 
The Western portion of the nation was never claimed and the Salt Lakes are owned by another nation. Read the thread mang.

It controls NA through Michigan, I don't see why salt mining could not occur.
 
Gem Hound, you are being stupid. Snap out of it.

There are MASSIVE salt mines under the GREAT LAKES. Like, you know. Lake Erie. Which is, you know, west of Michigan, which is, you know, assigned to America proper, and this is, you know, REAL LIFE INFO APPLIED INGAME.

Besides, an America NOT controlling ANY of north america is stupid. Where else would it be? Brazil? Don't make me laugh!
 
Besides, an America NOT controlling ANY of north america is stupid. Where else would it be? Brazil? Don't make me laugh!

To be fair, thats not that ridiculous. Why not? South America is still America.
 
Spain continues its invasion of France, pushing through any enemy armies without a problem thanks to their superiority in numbers and technology, and taking over all of France in a few years. All Frenchmen are happy to be free of the tyranny of their Emperor, and only a few discontents protest.
 
:rolleyes:

If no one else will call it, I won't.

PARISIAN TIMES
The Spanish conquer our republic and informed us to rejoice at the downfall of our Emperor. At bayonet point. They are clearly insane, but since they're here, let's humor them.

Anyway, the Persians finally got their act together and reinvaded Iraq. The local Iraqis are somewhat incensed at being bombed to the stone age twice in a row. So they declared independence. Again.
 
The Mayincatec Imperial Republic starts building giant stone satellite dishes sunken deep in the jungles of the Yucatan.
 
The SPQR invades Spain while the Spanish are dealing with the people in France. They conquer all the way to Badajoz, Valladolid and Zaragoza in under 3 days using a tactic called Blitzkrieg. OTL Portugal falls on day 4. They then proceed to set up Pasta Restaurants in every Spanish city under their control.
 
The SPQR invades Spain while the Spanish are dealing with the people in France. They conquer all the way to Badajoz, Valladolid and Zaragoza in under 3 days using a tactic called Blitzkrieg. OTL Portugal falls on day 4. They then proceed to set up Pasta Restaurants in every Spanish city under their control.

The Spanish resistance destroyes the entire SPQR forces in a coordinated effort that kicks them out of most minor cities on day 1 and out of the rest of Spain in a week, stealing all of their tanks and equipment to beat them with their own weapons.
 
The Spanish resistance destroyes the entire SPQR forces in a coordinated effort that kicks them out of most minor cities on day 1 and out of the rest of Spain in a week, stealing all of their tanks and equipment to beat them with their own weapons.

Dude, that couldn't happen. A non-supplied resistance annihilating 1 million soldiers in one week? I can't see it. Now, if you let go of France and marched South, that would be different.
 
Hopefully Milarqui can handle himself better if we decide to count this as his SECOND warning/strike.
 
Dude, that couldn't happen. A non-supplied resistance annihilating 1 million soldiers in one week? I can't see it. Now, if you let go of France and marched South, that would be different.

Well, I think that the SPQR taking over most of Spain and Portugal in 4 days is even more unlikely to happen, especially since the only way you thought it could happen was by having all of the army out of the way, which is impossible. Not to mention, you would not have a common border with Spain, since France is the only one with an actual border.

I move that the SPQR's invasion and everything that it caused is erased.
 
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