Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
again, people read into it too much. but pieces is very small pieces dispersed throughout and chunks are bloody large chunks (like a ripped torso), if that makes a difference.
[Game thread] Smurf Mafia
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Askthepizzaguy
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Gargamel has a cat... "ripped" to shreds... The cat has to be way bigger than the Smurfs.
That's why I interpret ripped as meaning literally ripped. But "across the room" is also present in most of these writeups, indicating that Autolycus could have been the same killer, as you suggest.
"ripped" was not present in the first one, so I assumed they were different kills.
Askthepizzaguy
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I get the feeling we're way off about something. Otherwise the GM wouldn't be trying to clarify his own writeups.
Autolycus tried to GIVE ME his explosion items. I declined because I can *already* kill, so I suggested he use them for himself.
I think Auto needs to show up and tell what he's been doing with his explosion items.
I still don't think small pieces and large bloody chunks are the same. Maybe Kennigit just has a knack for describing things as being "across the room" when they're chunks.
Askthepizzaguy
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I also get the feeling like we should be able to solve this, this round.
What is the problem. If we bungle this game, with all the role powers we have, with a dead ineffective cult and a dead mafioso, then really, it's gonna be a shameful ending.
What is the problem. If we bungle this game, with all the role powers we have, with a dead ineffective cult and a dead mafioso, then really, it's gonna be a shameful ending.
robbiecon
Savoy Truffle
Yawn, I already said that I blocked Verarde on atpg's instructions.
The reason I'm voting NinjaCow today is the precise reason that Zack did yesterday at one stage. There was only one kill on Night 3 (when there was only kill), and I'd blocked NinjaCow that night.
Zack
99% hot gas
There was only one kill on Nights 2 and 4, and you didn't block anyone on those nights.
robbiecon
Savoy Truffle
Small pieces sounds kinda like something that an explosion could cause, whereas large bloody chunks could be more like your Gargamel's cat theory?
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
I may just break down, sobbing, and support this vote.
Either Azzaman is scum or what we have here is townie existence failure.
Townies just didn't show up and play. They keep getting wogged, sending wrong orders, forgetting to send in orders, and better yet, deciding not to do anything at all.
robbiecon
Savoy Truffle
Well, I guess we have NinjaCow and azzaman as potential lynch targets. But yes, I think I could subscribe to this "townie existence failure" theory!
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
maybe earthling was cooked on a pancake griddle!
I'm not the best at guessing what players will think to semi simple, straightforward write ups, I suppose. Or, rather things that are generically similar are but consistent and the things that should be noticeably different are (I guess this kind of feels like the zack mafia "townie" vs "innocent" discussion to me).
I'm not the best at guessing what players will think to semi simple, straightforward write ups, I suppose. Or, rather things that are generically similar are but consistent and the things that should be noticeably different are (I guess this kind of feels like the zack mafia "townie" vs "innocent" discussion to me).
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Also, just general info. Gargamel's cat was called Azrael, iirc. So just say Azrael instead of Gargamel's Cat, please. 
Askthepizzaguy
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I don't get this setup.
But it seems to be built on the premise of a mafia that can kill, (they have to... they're facing a cult, and they're ripping people into big chunks, so they obviously can kill)
They do not seem to have two kills, all game.
but, town has multiple kills.
The boxing gloves, every other night. Autolycus. Myself.
Three kills?
The boxing gloves are not mafia, they're an item. They could have been used by the mafia last night, and it would explain a lot. But town still has me and Autolycus.
But both of those item-based attacks are weak. They reduce damage. Mine does too, but it reduces it more. Especially when I have Smurfette.
The items are useless in conjuction with each other. The boxing gloves and the explosion item doesn't boost the power of the other and they can't be used together.
The gloves also serve as a doctor item.
It's just odd that town could have three kills at any given time, predicated on targets being weak.
It's also odd that there was apparently an inactive cult leader, or a really unlucky one.
Healing items and a lynch that reduces HP are also odd.
This game setup does not conform to any sort of norm I've seen. Town is obviously powerful, but they need to face off against a cult and a mafia. And the items could be used against the town.
It's just chaotic. It could overpower the town, or it could obliterate the town. The game seems to be won or lost based on who gets which item.
But it seems to be built on the premise of a mafia that can kill, (they have to... they're facing a cult, and they're ripping people into big chunks, so they obviously can kill)
They do not seem to have two kills, all game.
but, town has multiple kills.
The boxing gloves, every other night. Autolycus. Myself.
Three kills?
The boxing gloves are not mafia, they're an item. They could have been used by the mafia last night, and it would explain a lot. But town still has me and Autolycus.
But both of those item-based attacks are weak. They reduce damage. Mine does too, but it reduces it more. Especially when I have Smurfette.
The items are useless in conjuction with each other. The boxing gloves and the explosion item doesn't boost the power of the other and they can't be used together.
The gloves also serve as a doctor item.
It's just odd that town could have three kills at any given time, predicated on targets being weak.
It's also odd that there was apparently an inactive cult leader, or a really unlucky one.
Healing items and a lynch that reduces HP are also odd.
This game setup does not conform to any sort of norm I've seen. Town is obviously powerful, but they need to face off against a cult and a mafia. And the items could be used against the town.
It's just chaotic. It could overpower the town, or it could obliterate the town. The game seems to be won or lost based on who gets which item.
robbiecon
Savoy Truffle
Also, just general info. Gargamel's cat was called Azrael, iirc. So just say Azrael instead of Gargamel's Cat, please.
Yeah, I actually knew that deep down in my brain. It's been a long time since I watched the Smurfs though!
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Also, just general info. Gargamel's cat was called Azrael, iirc. So just say Azrael instead of Gargamel's Cat, please.
Azrael makes sense.
But why would Azrael be on a mafia team with "Hades" and Gargamel would be in a cult without Azrael?
Utterly baffling.
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
Is there a character named Hades I overlooked?
Zack
99% hot gas
I think Archetype Mafia had similar mechanics.
johnhughthom
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robbiecon
Savoy Truffle
Despite how powerful the town seem to be though, there's only been one confirmed mafia and cult dead though. And Verarde was the only cult, unless there was no reveal on death of cult status until the leader? or that any converts got changed back once Verarde was hit?
But yeah, how many mafia kills have we actually seen?
But yeah, how many mafia kills have we actually seen?
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
the f is this rofl. I didn't know this.
Hades = Pluto. I think that will clear a lot of confusion, since I didn't think Hades would cause confusion
Askthepizzaguy
Know the Dark Side
No powers and not cleared means not useful.
Lynch Zack today, leaves:
Zack either dead proven scum, or reduces suspect list.
Next: NinjaCow needs to be blocked tonight, by Robbiecon.
Autolycus needs to attack Johnhughthom tonight to reduce his HP.
I'll take care of NinjaCow tonight personally.
Suddenly jht becomes useful because he can tell us if Autolycus attacked him with an explosion. If he lives, he can vote. If not, it still proves auto was there. Which means Auto couldn't be attacking me, robbie, or Azzaman, or BSmith.
NinjaCow or Zack could be scum, the game could be over.
If not: depends on who the mafia kill.
If they kill me, Azzaman is the next lynch, for he is proven scum.
If Autolycus does not do his job, he is the next lynch, for he is proven suspect and useless then.
JHT could be dead or at least reduced in power.
Myself and BSmith or robbiecon should be able to outvote any remaining mafiosi, plus we still have a vigilante and a roleblocker, so that means we should have more than a lynch to deal with the rest.
This plan assumes john is actually a lazy townie, in which case he can be useful for Auto's target practice. If he's scum, all the better.
BSmith, robbiecon, Azzaman, Autolycus- (one of auto or azza has to be townie)
If you endorse this plan, vote Zack2.
Unvote, vote: Zack2
Zack2 has never been cleared by any means, and likely replaced into the game as scum.
While Azzaman and Autolycus are both suspect at this time, Azzaman is tomorrow's lynch if he doesn't use the gloves as indicated. Auto is also capable of clearing himself by tomorrow. Zack on the other hand has no method of clearing himself.
Johnhughthom is also not cleared but does not appear to be trying to mislead people the way Zack has been doing.
Zack keeps drawing the wrong conclusions based on the kills, continues to try to get people to think I didn't kill MartinLuther (then who did, Zack? Who did?) and is trying (almost successfully) to conflate Autolycus' kill with the bloody chunks killer.
As such, Zack is the most dangerous uncleared person remaining, and the least useful claimed role of the remaining suspects.
Auto and Azza must prove themselves tonight. And NinjaCow is dead as a doornail regardless. Which means whichever of Autolycus or Azzaman proves they're scum tonight, dies tomorrow.
There, Gordian Knot sliced in half. Game is solved.
