You do have some point @Commodore but it's not like Democratic cities are exclusively democratic. There are still Republican voters and just like everywhere else they are more abundant in certain demographics. Such as suburbanites. I read that 92% of MPD's police force is from the suburbs.
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This line of argument is a distraction from the real issue. The cops need to be completely reformed, disarmed, and re-trained, reduced in size/numbers. They are abusing the citizenry instead of protecting it, covering up for their abuses and avoiding all accountability, especially when it comes to their abuses of black people.
Trying to make the discussion about whether or not its "Trumps fault" and trying to shift blame to Obama, "The Democrats" etc., is a total red herring. The cops need to be called to account, period.
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At this point I don't GAF what the cops' political affiliation is. They're more likely to be Republican, OK sure, but Republican or no, the black cops that participate in these abuses and/or go on FOX News trying to defend the actions of the police can go to hell with the rest of them.
The cops "party" is COPS... they have shown that beyond a doubt. We can have a whole debate about how the racial element plays into the cops political loyalties, but they are abusing everyone, black people worst of all, but they protect their institution, their power, first and foremost at the expense of everyone else. They are a broken system that needs replacement. So in terms of politics, I'd say elect the people who are acknowledging this and calling for aggressive measures, disarming, community policing, firings, civil liability, reduction in funding/numbers, retraining, residency requirements, bias training, banning no-knock warrants, banning choke-holds, and so on. Show me a Republican supporting all of that and I'll listen... if its only Democrats supporting that kind of stuff, so be it, whatever. The police need reform, that's the point.
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No, they're vandals.
So if the KKK burns down a black church it isn't a violent crime if no one is home?
Yeah, violent crime is 'generally' against a person but if you destroy my property you've robbed me - violently - of the time and effort it took to acquire it, thats true for destroying the property of the people paying taxes. Do you think burning down a police station is a violent crime. What does this have to do with the drug war?
Gorbles blamed Trump and he's not alone, Obama's their reality check. Why are you quoting me when he's the one who brought him up?
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I don’t see property crimes as violent crimes, but the distinction of violent and nonviolent doesn’t seem like anything more than a semantic question and its application in propagandizing one way or the other.
If someone evades $100 of lawful taxation, and someone else destroys $100 worth of public property, should they be the same “worth” to public safety? In money terms they have both committed an equal offense, but how does we perceive one over the other influence how they’ll be penalized?
If someone evades $100 of lawful taxation, and someone else destroys $100 worth of public property, should they be the same “worth” to public safety? In money terms they have both committed an equal offense, but how does we perceive one over the other influence how they’ll be penalized?
I see we're defending the Klan again... QED
While I don't believe Biden is going to enact the serious reform the US needs on the subject, I've got a higher chance of being proven wrong by him than I am by the dude who tear gassed protestors so he could have his picture taken outside of a church.
Maybe not much higher of a chance. But definitely a higher chance.
Besides we were debating the potential voting patterns of voters. I wasn't specifically blaming Trump for Floyd's death. The problems with the police in the US are systemic. But you had to get your revisionist conspiracy theory about "RussiaGate" in there, didn't ya?
Your argument is invalid because Black Lives Matter as a movement started when Obama was POTUS. So as much as you love to allege "hypocrisy"... there was none... people were out in the streets protesting in Ferguson in 2014 when Obama was POTUS, just like they are in 2020 when Ding Dong is POTUS. The Obama Presidency didn't get any pass from BLM for "partisan bias" reasons as you allege... so you're wrong yet again.
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BERZERKER dude come tf on
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Not even in the Berzerker top ten this year, let alone all time.
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If you’re going to insult me the least you can do is say it to my face like a man.
Aimed at Trump not you. Apologies if that wasn't clear.
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Lol I was joking. Should have went along with it.
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Ah derp derp. I wasn't sure.
They are wasting a lot of paint. Could simply write "not" at the end of the sentence.Just normal police doing normal police things
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I accused the KKK of committing a violent crime by burning down a black church, how is that a defense? Bugfatty said vandalism is just a property crime, so burning down that black church is not a violent crime according to his logic. Do you agree with him or me?
Did Gorbles give Obama a pass? I didn't say BLM started under Trump, I said the police were killing more people under Obama so its hypocritical for Obama supporters to blame Trump. Obama didn't get a pass from BLM?
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Watching LA 92 on Netflix.
Crazy.
Crazy.
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Burning down a building is arson, not vandalism...but don't let blindingly obvious facts get in the way of whatever stupidity you are trying so hard to display here.
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