GK1- The Wrath of Khan!!

[gormdragan]

Preturn:
I believe capturing Sevastopol is the key. Make use of Russian Rails to destroy them.

I also disagree with investing on bombers. We are playing 5CC so our bombers are only effective if we escort them on carriers with battleships. To me, that is costly and not effective at all. Better we concentrate on artilleries.

I also plan to rail into Russian territory so that our injured troops can speed back to our cities to heal in 1 turn.

This is my battleplan.

Sevastopol then Moscow, striking downward through the entire Russian Peninsula, leaving the western russian cities to the indian army, as a buffer from our only other opponent.

So here we go.

1752:
MM cities to make units in 1.

Berlin produces 90 shields - make inf.
Vine,Ivory,Dye produces 80 shields - make art,cav.
Coast makes battleship in 1, after which I will rush an airport with our leader.

2 vet inf kills 2 marauding cossacks, one promotes.

I abandon the assault on Odessa for now, and move all troops onto Moscow.

Returning carrier near Coast city to combine with next turn battleship.

1754:
Hmm, airport only needs 2 turns, what the heck.

Siege of Sevastopol
Elite cav kills elite inf.
Vet cav kills con rifle.
Vet inf kills con rifle.
We razed it to the ground for 0g and 11slaves.

I ran some of our redlined troops back home for healing, especially our cav army. Healing in the open is going to take forever.

Dye makes a granary.

Siege of Moscow
elite cav kills vet rifle
elite cav kills elite musket
elite cav dies to con rifle.
vet cav kills con rifle.
vet cav dies to reg pike
vet cav kills con rifle.
vet cav kills reg pike.
We razed it to the ground for 0g and 9 slaves.

IBT:
Persia and India signed peace treaty.

Hahaha!!! Our exposed cav (who razed Moscow)

killed an attacking cossack. Impressive!!!

1756:
Hmm, the wierdest thing happened to me, our oil source was depleted and it respawned on the same square again.

Wait a minute, we can't send troops over to the over continent by air, since we can't make another city. Hmm, that would mean we need lots of transports. My bad.

"I should feel so lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky.....I should feel so lucky, love"

I re-establish our oil colony.

Siege of St. Petersburg
Lib,Bank and Rax destroyed.
Appears to be 2 inf garrison at least (only manage to reduce 1 to red and other to yellow, which means con rifles are not revealed yet).

Lower research bar.

Coast starts transports.

Siege of St. Petersburg
Elite cav retreats to con rifle.
Vet cav kills con rifle.
Elite cav kills vet inf.
Elite cav kills vet inf.
We razed it to the ground and get 0g and 2slaves.

Sacked a barbarian camp for 25g.

1758:
Pollution in Berlin.
Production had been Berlin making Inf, Ivory, Dye and Wine making either cav or art, all in 1 turn.

Coast making vessels like no tomorrow for the assault on opposite island.

IBT:
Russians make a city near our colony, well is as good as dead as it's in our artillery range.

1760:
Siege of Moscow (New russian city)
Cav army dies to vet inf.
Vet cav dies to vet inf.
Vet cav kills elite inf.
We razed the city.

Siege of Odessa
Elite cav kills con inf.
Elite cav kills vet inf.
Elite cav kills elite inf.
We razed it to the ground and got nothing for our troubles...firewood cost money too.

Built a new army. (for Panzers).

All cities now prebuilding for Panzers, except Berlin, which I plan to continue making inf (cost efficient).

Lower research bar, MT in 1.

IBT:
We discovered MT, I started Computers, but We discovered Rocketry instead.

One of our iron colony was depleted, I made another one.

1762:
Mobilising for assault on Kiev and Minsk(new capital).

Unhappiness taken a new level.

BTW, Russia has no rubber so I aim to cripple her if not totally kick her out of the game. I realise Russia is after India so I will just reduce her to 1 city and transfer all units to the indian front.

1764:
Siege of Minsk
Vet cav kills vet inf.
Vet cav kills reg inf.
Vet cav dies to vet cossack.
Vet cav kills con rifle.
Vet cav kills vet cossack.
We razed it to the ground for nothing.

1766:
Siege of Kiev
Vet Panzer kills vet inf, We enter our gold age. Promotes too.
Elite Panzer kills vet cossack.
Vet Panzer retreats to con rifle.
Elite cav kills con rifle.
Elite cav kills vet inf.
Elite cav kills vet longb.
We razed the city to the ground.

1768:
Siege of Vlad
Vet cav kills con rifle.
Vet cav kills vet inf, promotes.
Vet cav kills vet inf, promotes.
Vet cav kills vet longb.
We razed the city to the ground.

1770:
Siege of Novgorod
Vet tank kills vet inf.
Vet tank dies to vet inf.
Vet tank kills vet inf, promotes.
We razed it to the ground, get 2 slaves.

Siege of Astrakhan
Vet cav kills reg rifle, promotes.
Vet cav kills reg spear, promotes.
We razed it to the ground, get 1 slave.

Siege of Lahore
Our artillery bombardment is firing blanks. But the top garrison is only a reg rifle so I will go for it.
Vet cav kills reg rifle.
Vet cav kills con rifle.
We razed it to the ground.


Summary

(1) Operation Barbarossa is almost complete, Russians are now a 4CC. Panzers with auxillary cavs are in striking distance of Tblisi. Let Panzers lead the way and Tblisi should fall without much of a problem.

(2) Operation Vegetarian Curry is almost ready to commence. A task force of art,inf and panzers are inching towards the Indian capital, Delhi. It should be able to join forces with troops from Operation Barbarossa once Tblisi and Bombay are dealt with. The doors to the heart of India is wide open.

(3) Production is concentrating on making panzers at 1 a turn for all cities except Coast which is making transports. With our golden age, clearing up our continent should be pretty easy.

(4) Research is now on computing to get mech inf. However, if we decide to go for Space victory, we might want to switch Space flight, or after computing. Therefore, making use of our GA to make the space components. If we are going for Conquest. We should get mech inf and modern armour and cut all research, i.e. computing, ecology, synthetic fibers.

I dare say that a conquest victory is tougher because of the continent crossing. But not impossible. Noting that the other continent have but 1 source of oil (please check to confirm), a rush occupation with mech inf should seal the game for us.

(5) I have made colonies on every lux and resource. The purpose is to
(a) Build "watchtowers" against AI expansion.
(b) Provide aggressive lures for AI to attack instead of our cities.
(c) We have way too many slaves.

(6) We have a number of cavalries healing in Dye city, which can reinforce Task force A or B as necessary.

(7) Haha!!! I just realised that Bebe was pillaging during his turn and I was building during mine. Now that's a difference in strategy. It all comes down to my obession with mobility.

Next better player.

The save

 

[Gengis Khan]

Excellent turns! I deffinatly agree with your battle plan as well.

[edit- And I'll let bugsy post the roster check again, it's always good for a laugh. Suffice to say Stapel, you're up.]

 

[Stapel]

I am on it!

Right now, I am playing the redux SG. After that comes a 31 civ super SG. Then this one.

Expect the result tuesday!

 

[gormdragan]

Oh, 2 extra things.

(8) We have an empty army outside Dye for filling. However, I rather keep our Panzers individually for multiple assaults. Our Panzers rule the lands so a Panzer Army is an overkill IMHO, plus ties 3 Panzers down unneccesarily. However, it is up to you, Stapel.

(9) Those Carriers are slower than my grandmother, I have half a heart of disbanding them, along with the bombers. Being a 5CC without airfield construction ability of PTW, personally, I think they suck big time. Plus they force me to hold back our faster destroyers and battleships for fear of retaliation.

My 2 extra cents.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Originally posted by Gengis Khan
[edit- And I'll let bugsy post the roster check again, it's always good for a laugh. Suffice to say Stapel, you're up.]

Very well then. Here it is:

Gengis - On deck
Bugs
Bede
Gorm - Taking a break and figuring out his march madness brackets ahead of time... (He's thinking that the Tar Heels should have about a 12 seed)
Stapel - UP!!

 

[Gengis Khan]

I knew I was asking for it.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

A bit of a cheap shot. Next month you can give me a hard time about my neighborhood boys...Gonzaga. I'm only five blocks from campus.

 

[Gengis Khan]

Gonzaga?!? I don't have make fun, beating a dead horse is worthless.

 

[Bede]

Way to hammer, Gorm

 

[gormdragan]

I will be away on a business trip in Nigeria for 4weeks. Once In Singapore, I will have internet access and will continue playing.

All the best everyone, sorry....RL takes over.

 

[Stapel]

Two questions:

Is it ok to make peace with Russia for 5 of theri 6 citires, and then immediately destroy those cities?

Why not leave India for what it is for a few turns (but stay at war), and bash the Babs? They are in our territory and will defenitely start a war, when we tell them to back off! After we raze some cities, we will get Amfibious Warfare for it.

 

[Gengis Khan]

In the spirit of a 5CC, I'd say no. We should just wipe them out the old fashion way.

Good idea, just make sure the cities are defended in case they decide to drop some troops next to our cities.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

While the Babs might be a pain in the neck, we might want to keep them on our side, since they are supposed to be our last victim.

I'd say when Cathy is dead, we can make peace with her. Let's press on and keep fighting the Russians and Indians. We can leave Cathy as an OCC on her southern island for a while. As we set up to kill the Zulus.

 

[Stapel]

I am on my way. Russian first .

Did we declare war on the Indians? Or did they declare war on us?

Edit: We declared war.

 

[Stapel]

Pre Turn 1770 AD; Move some units closer to Russian cities.

Turn 1; 1772 AD;
-Raze Tblisi
-Raze bombay, no losses.
Make peace with Rusians: goodbye War weariness. Also use a RoP, in order to crush Delhi right now. That way, we can get a free ride with the stack of artillery that is in Delhi area rigth now, but to far to bomb it. I see we only have 24 arillery. Hmmm..

Raze Delhi and Bach’s Cathedral. Sehet! Wen? Den Braeutigam! Sehet! Wie? Als wie ein Lam!
I tell the Babs to back off: they declare war.

Important: This means, war with Indians does not cause ww (I am right, not?) We should spare at least one Indian city until the end! That will make things a lot easier.

Anyway: I can use all artilerries now to bombard Bab cities.
-Raze Lagash (between Coast and Dye).
-Raze Tell Wilaya (North of Vineland)
-Kill some wondering Babs. Loose a elite cav, but the next produces a leader. He builds a battleship.
-Raze Sippar (northeast of Vineland), after loosing 2 panzers .
-Raze Larsa (east of Vineland)
Thanks for putting workers on automove!
-Raze Hindana northwest of Ivorypolis.

IT: loose two cavs.

Turn 2; 1774 AD;
-Raze Samua (north of Ivorypolis), but loose a panzer.
-Raze Khorsabad, north of the former razed city.
-Raze Eridu (east of Berlin)
-Raze Umma (east of Berlin)
-Raze Kish
-Raze Bangalore and its Great Library

Turn 3; 1776 AD;
-Nippur razed
-Raze Babylonian Hyderabad
-Raze Nimrud, somewhere in the northwest of our continent.
-Raze Izibia; loose 2 panzers.
-Raze Shuruppak. The northeast of our continent is free of Babylonians
I load 16 artillery, 5 panzers and 3 infantry in our transports.
The rest of our forces enters Indian territory.

IT: Zulus and Indians sign peace.
Turn 4; 1778 AD; Another leader = another battleship. A quite turn: our forces land in Babylon and they go deeper into India.
Turn 5; 1780 AD; At the cost of 3 panzers, we raze the Indian capitol.
-Isipezi (Babs) razed onBab main continent
Turn 6; 1782 AD; Raze Madras and Leonardo’s. More Panzers to Babylon.
IT: A million babarian horsies show. They manage to kill a Panzer .
Turn 7; 1784 AD;
-Raze Jaipur
-Raze New Karachi
The Indians have 1 city left. Wow, that went fast! We let them live! Concentrate on all other opponents! We raze Babylonian Punjab and sink an impressive fleet and kill a leader. Those barbarians are annoying!
IT: Babs offer 360 gold, Amfibious warfare and 45 gpt for peace: hahahaha no man, I am just doing fine!
Turn 8; 1786 AD; Ur destroyed. Another leader. And another city down (Akkad)! Loose 2 panzers. Many Panzers heal in former Babylonian lands.
War weariness on the rise again! Lux to 10 again.
IT:Shaka wants oil. We say no: war. Shaka kills some wounded panzers. But, Ithink this will make it easier!
Turn 9;
-Raze Babylonina Dacca and its formidable fleet and airforce.
-Raze New Ulundi, north of Ivorypolis.
-Raze Izipezi.
-Raze New Bapedi.
-Raze Zulu Karachi.
-Raze Zulu Riga.
Turn 10; 1790 AD;
-Raze Babylonian Ganges.
-Raze New Hlobane.
-Raze Isipezi.


1790AD save

 

[Stapel]

In short: I do not expect to get another turn. Russia almost gone, India almost gone. Babylon bleeding.

And we are strong!

4 cities with a panzer each turn.
1 with an artillery each turn.

 

[Bede]

Way to knock heads, Stapel!!

Fiat drivers rule.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

That puts it on our fearless leader
Gengis - UP!!
Bugs - On deck
Bede
Gorm - Off to Nigeria
Stapel - Taking a break

 

[Gengis Khan]

In the eternal words of bugsy "feast or famine." So true!

That makes it 3 SGs to get passed to me in about 4 hours. Playing Go4 now, and this one will be next.

 

[Stapel]

I did take the afternoon off from work yesterday. These turns were really great to play. I had 10 turns of Golden Age.

Some things to overthink:
-We are at war with India, Zulu and Babylon.
-Computers in 1 turn
-We cannot wipe out India right now, as that would mean we should deaclare war to Russia.
-We still have 10 turns of peace to go with Russia.

Our continent is free of Zulu and Babylonian cities.

I think the best option is: Make peace with the Babs right away. They will give us anything they have. Then go smash the Zulu. We have quite a force (panzers + artilerry) on the Persian / Zulu / Babylon continent. A RoP with the Persian will make it quite easy to hurt the Zulu real hard. I think 20 turns is sufficient to wipe them out completely.

Anyway: have fun!