Gnb3 Pbem!!!

[academia]

See WINTER!!!!!
I´m not the only one who is against those units!!!!
I hate them. And as Magic-Monkey says he bribed my entire army and saved his country from the russian menace.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

... I mean without these lil guys Prussia would be gone, as would Britain be...

I understand your points, though: As long as one has $ it is ok for these lil devils to be around, but if money is scarce (as is in Austria ) the game easily becomes unbalanced...

Changes for GNB3/4 include:

*Half the reward money for cities
*Half the reward money for leaders
*Twice the price for Emisaries
*Cheaper city improvements (i.e. Courthouses)
*No traders (Trade routes will be established from begining on)
*Emisaries are no longer able to ignore zones of control (as oposed to the notion of a spy throwing some money around and bribing an entire city, I now see them more as a diplomatic delegation with many members who cannot just penetrate your countries checkpoints)
*Emisaries are reduced to one movement point per turn (as above)

 

[sas]

I support the ban as well.

It's ridiculous when Britian can buy off my whole invasion force of over 6 cavalry and several infantry. I have hesitated to use these units, but the current develeopment forces me to use them as well. I wonder what i can do with my 200 surplus gold each round?

 

[academia]

Ok. So, we ban the use of emissaires or not?

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Hmmm, given there are three players out of five supporting the ban of Emisaires I'd suggest that no emisaires are to be used against player controlled cities.

May Non-Player controlled cities still be targeted by emisaries? And how about individual units on the battlefield?

 

[academia]

I support a complete, total ban against the use of these units in the game; no matter the situation.

 

[academia]

Document 1800/06/R

* No relevant news to report.

 

[voltar]

Well OK this ban totally changes all my plans for my next turn. Talk about bad timing...

P.S At this stage I don't support the ban. Why should it be put in prior to people having played their turns. I will support the ban however if it is placed after everyone had 1 turn to change things accordingly.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

*No Casualties this turn- the first time since the begining of the invasion of Britain by French forces the guns have been silent this month as Austria reinforces its positions as a basis for future operations. While the fronts at Odessa and Kiev have been taken back, new troops are joining their comrades while Russian advances are expected to follow the Prusso-Russian peace treaty of Kronstadt.

*The Emperor has departed for Berlin, where he is to meet with leaders of the Prussian interim government to discuss their views on the Russian question. In the meantime the Austrian high seas fleet is enriched by the commission of a new frigate to be delivered early next month...

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ps. I think a short adaptation period until the end of this turn should be ok given we have already played our turns(?)

 

[sas]

agreed

 

[sas]

(This round was made on the assumption that from the next round the use of emmisaries are banned.)


The French army never gives up!

*The 3'rd French invasion of the British isles have started:

After a naval barrage against Plymouth killing one British Cavalry unit, once again French forces landed near Plymouth. French dragoons seized the city and managed to sink no less than two British Ship of the Line before the city was lain in ruins.

*French forces attacks Antioch and destroyes one Russian Cavalry Unit. The Russian defences are crumbling rapidly.

Napoleon

 

[sas]

magic-monkey?

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Originally posted by sas
magic-monkey?

If your Computer is still in maintainance I could cover one turn for U if you send me a PM with instructions and Password...

Hope yur PC won't B long...

 

[magic-monkey]

i'm here, now. my pc is working and everything. i did get the old one working, but it continually crashed, and i don't have civ2 on it any more so i couldn't play my turn.

anyway, i feel somewhat guilty about stirring up the whole debate on the diplomat units and then vanishing for a few days so i couldn't participate in it. I'm glad we've agreed to no more city bribing; it should make matters more interesting from now on, i'd say it remains ok to bribe ai cities and general units (which are still quite expensive). When exactly does the ban come into effect? It doesn't seem fair on Britain, if they've, for example, rush built their units already in expectation of using them in the next couple of turns. Also, can we insert a clause into this agreement that states the city bribe function may be used to recapture "home cities" when a player has been horribly backstabbed? Some way of reflecting the rise in nationalism, and a penalty for flagrantly disregarding treaties?

 

[magic-monkey]

Prussian leadership question resolved:
Karl August Fürst von Hardenberg is to be the first chief minister of the new Prussian Republic. Months of negotiations between the Junkers, the military elite, elements of the new industrial classes and the representatives of the peasantry settled on the experienced statesment, now into his 50th year. A man of the Enlightenment, he won support from both liberal and conservative elements for his ideas on the future of Prussia
and for his previous service to the old regime. Experienced in both internal administration and in foreign affairs he was described by one expert ( ) as "a reformist in agrarian issues as well as in taxation- most importantly in areas of providing equal rights to the peasant population against the Junkers". von Hardenberg played a key role in the negotiation of the peace settlement with Russia, helping to secure favourable terms.

The first payment of the Russian reparations has been received, and is being utilised to rebuild the economy of East Prussia and of the Republic's Danish provinces under the direction of new Minister for the Interior, Karl Stein. A diplomatic mission has been sent to Moscow in order to clarify the terms of the treaty, and to propose the instigation of a peaceful buffer zone between the two states.

In other diplomatic news, prior to the meeting between von Hardenberg and the Emperor Francis II the following statement was issued to France:
"It is my sad duty to have to make such a statement as this, but once again the rapacity of the French forces us to make another warning. Whilst the last conflict between our nations may have ended peacefully several months ago, the issues that caused the clash still remain. The last government may have been blinded to French imperial ambitions by a desire for revenge against the Russian Republic we are only to aware of France's
intentions for Europe. They took the opportunity of the War of the Great Betrayal to extend themselves past previously agreed boundries in the Iberian peninsualr, and now they launch another invasion of the ally of the Republic, Great Britain. The people of Prussia insist that France withdraws its troops from the British isles and from the sovereign nation of Spain. We will not stand idly by and let the tyranny of one man, Napoleon, dominate the greatest of continents."
It's thought that the popular sentiment of horror at the so called "massacre of Plymouth", in which the population of the English town was slaughtered by invading French troops, contributed to the issuing of the statement. To reinforce its message, Prussian troops began moving westward once more, advanced parties taking up position in the Netherlands. The new French crisis is expected to dominate the Pan-Germanic Alliance's conference in Berlin this month.

 

[voltar]

Lisbon has been re-claimed by the British Crown. Portugal is again a free state as a British protectorate.

British counter-attack on the home island destroyed 2 French cavalry divisions. Pitt is rumoured to have been in a fit of rage over the new french invasion. quoted as saying "Damned french never learn! Enough of this! execute the commanders of both divisions and send their bodies to Napoleon!"

And indeed both commanders were executed by firing squad, their bodies put in caskets and sent by civilian courier to Napoleon's residence.

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I now support the ban of city bribing. I have changed my development and tactics accordingly.

 

[academia]

Document 1800/07/R

* Smyrna captured
* 2 cities production changed from emisaires to other improvements
* Russia declares war on Brazil

 

[voltar]

Originally posted by academia

* Russia declares war on Brazil

Bra...zil???

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

*Following recent Prussian movements alongside the Border to the Netherlands, as well as novel hostilities between Russia and Brazil (?) the Austrian Army has dug in along the North and East, in the process of reinforcing its Garrisons in the areas of actual and likely conflict. These precausionary measures have been taken as the war between France and Britain enters a new stage; with Prussia intending to put political pressure on France to finally put end to the bloodshed in Both Britain and Spain.

Below: The exhaustive toll of the Spanish Civil War:

*The Kaiser is prolonging his stay in Prussia: While Prussian manouvers have raised suspission within the high command of the Austrian Heer, army officials have also heavily criticised the destruction of Plymouth earlier this month. On the other side, Austrian troops have set the Imperial Jack in Athens after the last French troops had handed over authority over the city. The Foreign minister is set to Paris to personally thank the French government, and to address the Spanish question...

 

[sas]

Once again, British spies have bribed another French city, but this will hopefully be the last time.

Napoleon is alarmed at the Prussian build-up of forces in northern France. We demand that they pull back immediately unless you want a war. French forces in the area are under strict orders to NOT fire until fired upon.

It's with sadness that French support in the war against Russia is repaid with laying siege on French cities. It's amazing how a state leader can change his position and forget past favours. I do not want war with Prussia, but you can be sure that any attack against France will cause a total retaliation from French forces.

France will not pull out of Spain. We will however once again offer to stop at the current position. We expect the British to give the same answer as to all the other offers for peace. Meaning, no progress and a continuation of the war.

*Antioch liberated by French forces.

Napoleon