solenoozerec
Stranger
When the game will be realesed? In case of Ainwood I would expect it tomorrow morning, in case of AlanH - today evening. What about Mad-bax release time?
GOTM43 - Pre-Game Discussion.
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ionimplant
Prince
then there'll be a lot of work to do to prevent any AI from winning space. in your calculation, how many MA and IA wonder do you need?Xerol said:
Redbad
should have shaved
Xerol will be going for the 20K-shield. If I'm correct that doesn't mean he has to get a late 20K date, but he has to get a low 20K score.
Best would seem to be to asap finish off the ai's but 1 and then reduce oneself to a single 20K city. At that point it isn't all that relevant when 20K will be reached.
I only hope I won't snatch the shield from him
Best would seem to be to asap finish off the ai's but 1 and then reduce oneself to a single 20K city. At that point it isn't all that relevant when 20K will be reached.
I only hope I won't snatch the shield from him
Xerol
Emperor
Well, yeah, I'm going to probably play the "take all cities from an AI, milk them for workers, then abandon them all" game. I'll probably just keep all the starting continent cities until Tanks come about(which seems to happen around 1400 or so on Diety Continents). Then I'll go all out with tanks/transports, flatten the other continent down to one city, surround it with tons and tons of troops(so they can't get any settlers out), then abandon most of the cities on my continent, until I've got two cores, each at OCN/2 cities, one around the Palace and one around the FP. Then I'll go all-out research until I've hit the last tech(for Strategic Missile Defense or whatever it is). After that(this shouldn't happen until at least 1800 AD by my calculations) I'll see how much CPT I'll need to hit 2048-49 for a victory date, and sell various buildings to reach that goal.
OCN on a standard map is 16, right? Ok, so that means I'll have 16 cities around from 1400ish to 2049, which is a very long time in game turns (at least 250, probably more), or nearly half of the game. I'll probably abandon all but a core of 4-5 after I get the last tech.
I'll actually see what happens after I finish off my continent, see what the tech situation is, and how many more wonders/improvements I'll need. Then I'll work on reducing the other continents, and abandon all but the capital once I've (1) finished off the AIs and (2) got enough wonders to win. (Will edit with more later.)
Ok, here's the basic point I'm getting at: I'm not exactly a stellar Diety player yet (1-6 in my test games, and none of them 20k). So I'm probably going to need all the cities I can get to cripple the AIs to the point where they can't get Space Race victory. But, if I can spend 200+ turns with just a core or 1-2 cities(I'll need 2 if I want to be able to use the Palace as a prebuild in the 20k city) then the end score will probably be pretty low. I might also need at least one city on the other continent to ship lux/resources across from, even with colonies the goods can't get across the ocean without a harbor/airport city. But, other than that, I can probably count on a low score even with a good hold on my own continent for the majority of the researching portion of the game. (Also, once my 20k city hits 10,000, there's room for some 0-culture cities to be put in there for production/gold/UNIT SUPPORT purposes without expanding the borders.)
OCN on a standard map is 16, right? Ok, so that means I'll have 16 cities around from 1400ish to 2049, which is a very long time in game turns (at least 250, probably more), or nearly half of the game. I'll probably abandon all but a core of 4-5 after I get the last tech.
I'll actually see what happens after I finish off my continent, see what the tech situation is, and how many more wonders/improvements I'll need. Then I'll work on reducing the other continents, and abandon all but the capital once I've (1) finished off the AIs and (2) got enough wonders to win. (Will edit with more later.)
Ok, here's the basic point I'm getting at: I'm not exactly a stellar Diety player yet (1-6 in my test games, and none of them 20k). So I'm probably going to need all the cities I can get to cripple the AIs to the point where they can't get Space Race victory. But, if I can spend 200+ turns with just a core or 1-2 cities(I'll need 2 if I want to be able to use the Palace as a prebuild in the 20k city) then the end score will probably be pretty low. I might also need at least one city on the other continent to ship lux/resources across from, even with colonies the goods can't get across the ocean without a harbor/airport city. But, other than that, I can probably count on a low score even with a good hold on my own continent for the majority of the researching portion of the game. (Also, once my 20k city hits 10,000, there's room for some 0-culture cities to be put in there for production/gold/UNIT SUPPORT purposes without expanding the borders.)
solenoozerec
Stranger
RedBad&Xerol - lowest 20K in this game could be the highest. RedBad has stolen lowest 20K award from SirPleb in the previous deity game.
And you know what, when I went to GOTM page to check this, I found that there is an image for Japan GOTM43 among current games, although its page says:
" Sorry, this game page is not currently available. "
Does it mean that Mad-bax will be giving us this game a piece at a time? Like we have an image now, in two ours will get a description, in more 2 ours conquest save will be available, then open and so on
Does it mean that we will be feed
And you know what, when I went to GOTM page to check this, I found that there is an image for Japan GOTM43 among current games, although its page says:
" Sorry, this game page is not currently available. "
Does it mean that Mad-bax will be giving us this game a piece at a time? Like we have an image now, in two ours will get a description, in more 2 ours conquest save will be available, then open and so on
Does it mean that we will be feed
It actually means I've defeated the time-lock so that I can release it manually just by putting the page on line. 
The games menu only knows that we are within 12 hours of release, so it displays the menu option, but you only see a place holder page. It didn't seem to be too much of a spoiler for you to see the game image a few hours ahead, but if it disturbs you I can remove it.
The games menu only knows that we are within 12 hours of release, so it displays the menu option, but you only see a place holder page. It didn't seem to be too much of a spoiler for you to see the game image a few hours ahead, but if it disturbs you I can remove it.
Redbad
should have shaved
solenoozerec said:
I have no remorse. It was entirely his own fault. Had he played a (much) sloppier game, he could have gotten the shield. But then again I would have had to settle for the award ....
Vegasgustan
Warlord
Before I even download the game. Yep, I have never played a Diety level game and I don't think I will win my first one. Hell, the last GOTM messed with me. I still enjoy the challenge and frustration though. Next GOTM should be a Warlord just to see how HIGH everyone can score. Hee hee hee.
This should be fun for a few hours until I get killed.
This should be fun for a few hours until I get killed.
solenoozerec
Stranger
AlanH said:but if it disturbs you I can remove it.
Only as a teaser
But anyway I will not play it till tomorrow even if it will be publiched now.I noticed Civassist II. I even download it, but did not install it yet. I certainly will give it a try in this game.
A'AbarachAmadan
Deity
Well, I normally just play the COTMs due to time. However, I'm already done with the latest one and can't pass up on Japan. Being deity and the fact that it would take 12 turns to mine the hill for only +1 shields initially, I'll just settle in place. Will either go after Pottery or Mysticism first.
Yakodi
King
Nata said:
That is my vote too!
Although I didn't submit a GOTM/COTM very often up to now I'm nevertheless trying to play every game. But this time I'm not able to play because of the mod and because of the fact that I'm playing the German version. There's no problem with the normal games but it's impossible to play with the mod.
So if you want to exclude players of versions other than the English/American one you are successfull!
If not I think there should be no mods!!2000warrior
Chieftain
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Well, I uploaded an uncompressed shot of the same(ish) start with with an fp wheat 2S and 1E of the start location. Then my damn internet crashed most of yesterday before I could get this posted. 
...anyways, if anyone wants to use it to compare that tile once they load up the save with this image of it, then feel free to use it. If it doesn't look exactly like that tile, then it's not a wheat.
File here
...anyways, if anyone wants to use it to compare that tile once they load up the save with this image of it, then feel free to use it. If it doesn't look exactly like that tile, then it's not a wheat.
File here
Twonky
King
Hey Yakodi, I´m playing the darn german version, too. CivIV will definitly be the original english version for me!
Anyway, I managed to get the save running though (I know, I´m actually not allowed to post here then, but I only loaded it to see if it works). I installed a few mods - practically all of those available for GOTM, including the MedMod. Still I had to manually rename all .ini files and foldernames in the unit folder to get it going.
My civ3 folder looks a little messed up now, but I don´t care for that. I can still uninstall/install if it blows up completely.
Anyway, I managed to get the save running though (I know, I´m actually not allowed to post here then, but I only loaded it to see if it works). I installed a few mods - practically all of those available for GOTM, including the MedMod. Still I had to manually rename all .ini files and foldernames in the unit folder to get it going.
My civ3 folder looks a little messed up now, but I don´t care for that. I can still uninstall/install if it blows up completely.
Well I'm dusting off my old civ3 box. Haven't played a game of the month since GOTM 19. I'm really surprised to see a lot of the same old names around here. Too bad it's a deity game, guess I'm jumping in head first. I'll be happy with a victory since I know I won't score high. See you in the spoiler threads.
