Goz11- 5CC-Deity
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I doubt it
The AI will have hordes of stuff and will over-run us. The best plan is to be humble and nice and build up our cities and explore as much as possible in the beginning to get those twofers. Find luxes and resources and grab them if we can, they are very important for trading. Sometimes I've traded away my only iron to get a tech or two, the same with luxes and other resources.
Patience is a good thing
Smart
King
India starts with Alphabet, and so we have good chances to get GL. Lets do min research on Writing, and then max on Literature. Do we have are any chances for philo on deity pangaea? 
When I recall that India starts with Alphabet, I changed my choise to #3 - early contacts will help alot, especially if we are going for Glib.
When I recall that India starts with Alphabet, I changed my choise to #3 - early contacts will help alot, especially if we are going for Glib.
Smart
King
I haven't done 5CC before, but I think that we will not have enough breakers early with only 5 cities to do self-research and be able to trade anything. Wouldn't be better to build GL, and start researching only when we will be in republic with market/libs, and good infrastructure 
Although the GLib is great, it's pretty hard to get it when we won't have any pre-builds. Of course we will have other wonders early, but the AI is quick to grab them and we can sit there with 400 shields for a barracks 
We won't even have a FP to fall back on.
But we can see how it goes and if it's possible to build it.
Most people seem to be in favor for No3, so I get this going soon and if zerksees doesn't show up when I post, we can change the roster.
I'll play 20 turns, then we go 10 each.
We won't even have a FP to fall back on.But we can see how it goes and if it's possible to build it.
Most people seem to be in favor for No3, so I get this going soon and if zerksees doesn't show up when I post, we can change the roster.
I'll play 20 turns, then we go 10 each.
zerksees
in remission
Since this is a 5CC I say #3 is best. There is really good shield production potential with all those hills, access to the sea (without too many tiles lost to the sea) will help with trading early and help keep trading routes open later during wars, not to mention speed up our ability to meet the AI.
Since we only need four settlers, the settler production isn't that important and irrigating the cow at the start should be all we need to do.
Since we only need four settlers, the settler production isn't that important and irrigating the cow at the start should be all we need to do.
zerksees
in remission
How many AI? I assume seven. Research is going to be really fast. Are scientific great leaders on? If they are not then we have a chance at the GL. Though I am not sure it is worth it since it's not like we can give it away and then take it back later. In reality I think taking it from someone after we get chivalry (and maybe they have steam power) might be a better bet (think war elephant SOD).
Also, I don't know if you guys read the emails or come to the forum. I have a tendency to submit a post then change it two minutes later because I just thought of something else, so what is on the email might not match what is on the forum. This time I posted twice.
Also, I don't know if you guys read the emails or come to the forum. I have a tendency to submit a post then change it two minutes later because I just thought of something else, so what is on the email might not match what is on the forum. This time I posted twice.
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Not much to say, except we got 2 cows! The worker irrigated the first and mined the second. Later when we've mined the hills around Delhi, we might have to irrigate the other one as well.
Our first warrior Bubba scouted E and found a wheat, which made me swap the warrior-build to another settler. He also found furs and ivory, the latter out of reach for us.
3250BC we meet France, they are up 3 techs and no trades available.
Bombay is founded 3150BC. After the worker, please build a temple with help of a chop.
I built a curragh and another warrior, current build is settler to grab those furs. I want him on the red dot, so we don't overlap. French already grabbed the ivory.
The curragh is following the coast NE and the warrior have to scout the southern area.
It looks like we have room for our cities But we need to get those settlers our fairly quickly, I don't want France to mess up our plans.
Not much to say, except we got 2 cows! The worker irrigated the first and mined the second. Later when we've mined the hills around Delhi, we might have to irrigate the other one as well.
Our first warrior Bubba scouted E and found a wheat, which made me swap the warrior-build to another settler. He also found furs and ivory, the latter out of reach for us.
3250BC we meet France, they are up 3 techs and no trades available.
Bombay is founded 3150BC. After the worker, please build a temple with help of a chop.
I built a curragh and another warrior, current build is settler to grab those furs. I want him on the red dot, so we don't overlap. French already grabbed the ivory.
The curragh is following the coast NE and the warrior have to scout the southern area.
It looks like we have room for our cities
But we need to get those settlers our fairly quickly, I don't want France to mess up our plans.
The red dot is on a BG, but it can't be helped. The city will have enough production and have some forests for chopping.
Notice the perfect spot N of Delhi is on a game.
We need to scout that area soon too, so after the settler train another warrior.
gozpel -> Just played
zerksees -> UP
Smart -> soon
Own
Mathias
Notice the perfect spot N of Delhi is on a game.
We need to scout that area soon too, so after the settler train another warrior.gozpel -> Just played
zerksees -> UP
Smart -> soon
Own
Mathias
Yes, but not in despotism, I prefer roading everything. I don't mine anything before a non despotic gov, in which then I irrigate most grasslands for quick size 12 cities, then I mine to get max production.
You're probably right, just explaining my logic.
You're probably right, just explaining my logic.
Mined hills gives 2 shields in despotism, but with slow workers it will take an eternity. We won't get Republic soon and with few cities we will have to improve what we got.
That is when we have more workers, so until then roading is my way too Most of the time I have a couple of workers that do nothing but connect towns and stuff, while others follow and do the mines and irrigation or whatever.
That is when we have more workers, so until then roading is my way too
Most of the time I have a couple of workers that do nothing but connect towns and stuff, while others follow and do the mines and irrigation or whatever.
zerksees
in remission
I have the game - will play tonight if someone tells me the barb setting?
madviking
north american scum
Good luck guys!
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zerksees
in remission
preflight - looks good
2950 BC - exploring
IBT nothing
2900 BC - exploring
IBT nothing
2850 BC - met Korea. They have bronze working, masonry, pottery, the wheel and warrior code. they will trade pottery for 53 gold and 3 gpt, but I pass for now. I am thinking warrior code as a stepping stone to monarchy. MM Bombay to get one extra shield
IBT nothing
2800 BC - MM Dehli to get settler in one. Lux at 50% because Dehli is szie 4.
IBT Dehli: settler -> warrior, Bombay: worker->temple, spot a red warrior
2750 BC - Meet Inca, same 5 techs as Korea and France. They were spotted near Korea in the northwestern path of exploration. Lux to 10%. Curragh spots green border. Settler headed to red dot.
IBT - nothing
2710 BC - worker chop starts. Chose 1 SW of Bombay to get the forest off our door. Meet Japan. They do not have pottery. Assume this can't last long. buy pottery for 69 gold and 2gpt. Trade it along with 2 gpt and 21 gold to Korea for warrior code.
IBT - nothing
2670 BC - meet Sumer. Nothing to trade. Oops they have mysticism and others do not. We have nothing to trade them. They must have just got it this turn since Japan has it now also. I hope this doesn't cost us.
IBT - Dehli: warrior->settler (change to whatever you like)
2630 BC - found silk bonus tile to south while exploring
IBT nothing
2590 BC - another silk appears down south.
IBT nothing
2550 BC - work chop is done, worker moves to grassland wheat. incense found to the north, near spot with deer.
Other notes:
- Also forgot to mention that Dehli worker finished mine, then went to BG east of Bombay to start mining/roading that tile.
- Sorry I couldn't read the first time, I found all the answers to my questions about game settings up above.
- Would we not want France to build the GL for us? Somehow we need to discuss how we might make this happen.
- Once settlers for cities four and five are out we need some workers ASAP.
- Hope I did not totally blow it by trading techs the way I did, versus building embassies or better trades.
I have no idea where the other two cities should go, though somewhere in the south near the two silks is one place, and in the north near that deer and now incense is a possible location.
2950 BC - exploring
IBT nothing
2900 BC - exploring
IBT nothing
2850 BC - met Korea. They have bronze working, masonry, pottery, the wheel and warrior code. they will trade pottery for 53 gold and 3 gpt, but I pass for now. I am thinking warrior code as a stepping stone to monarchy. MM Bombay to get one extra shield
IBT nothing
2800 BC - MM Dehli to get settler in one. Lux at 50% because Dehli is szie 4.
IBT Dehli: settler -> warrior, Bombay: worker->temple, spot a red warrior
2750 BC - Meet Inca, same 5 techs as Korea and France. They were spotted near Korea in the northwestern path of exploration. Lux to 10%. Curragh spots green border. Settler headed to red dot.
IBT - nothing
2710 BC - worker chop starts. Chose 1 SW of Bombay to get the forest off our door. Meet Japan. They do not have pottery. Assume this can't last long. buy pottery for 69 gold and 2gpt. Trade it along with 2 gpt and 21 gold to Korea for warrior code.
IBT - nothing
2670 BC - meet Sumer. Nothing to trade. Oops they have mysticism and others do not. We have nothing to trade them. They must have just got it this turn since Japan has it now also. I hope this doesn't cost us.
IBT - Dehli: warrior->settler (change to whatever you like)
2630 BC - found silk bonus tile to south while exploring
IBT nothing
2590 BC - another silk appears down south.
IBT nothing
2550 BC - work chop is done, worker moves to grassland wheat. incense found to the north, near spot with deer.
Other notes:
- Also forgot to mention that Dehli worker finished mine, then went to BG east of Bombay to start mining/roading that tile.
- Sorry I couldn't read the first time, I found all the answers to my questions about game settings up above.
- Would we not want France to build the GL for us? Somehow we need to discuss how we might make this happen.
- Once settlers for cities four and five are out we need some workers ASAP.
- Hope I did not totally blow it by trading techs the way I did, versus building embassies or better trades.
I have no idea where the other two cities should go, though somewhere in the south near the two silks is one place, and in the north near that deer and now incense is a possible location.
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