GOZ3 -(Totally Barbaric)-C3C

[microbe]

preturn: I switch Utica to FP and change nothing else.

IBT Neapolis war->war. Hippo Aqueduct->horse. Rusicade temple->Aqueduct. Cadiz hoese->horse. Malaca war->worker. Hitties start Knights Templar! OK, I then shut down research. There is no point in doing it anymore.

(1)260AD: troop movement. Injured sword retreats to Hannover. I order the workers on the gems to start roading, so that it could be ready when we found the city.

IBT Carthage settler->market. Sumeria starts Sun Tzu's.

(2)270AD:

Hannover:
vet sword 1/3 kills reg archer.
vet horse 3/3 kills reg horse.
vet horse 1/3 kills reg archer.

Oops, I forgot to move the sword army last turn. Order it to the front immediately.

Send the galley to reach the other land, hope it survives, but we've met Korea. He lacks Republic and Monotheism.

There is a German galley sailing around, looking to attack empty cities.

Hippo is about to riot. Switch horse to temple, and hire a taxman.

IBT our horse retreats.

(3)280AD: Our galley survives and spots pink border.

vet sword 2/3 kills reg archer.
vet horse 1/3 kills reg archer.

Our iron connected, upgrade 3 warriors to MDIs for 270g.

IBT German horse attacks our injured horse, loses and promotes it. Sabratha horse->horse. Oea horse->MDI. Gades war->NM.

(4)290AD: Haven't met the pink civ yet. I notice some grassland tiles around Veii are irrigated. Must be Romen's doing.

vet sword 1/4 loses to elite archer?
reg sword 0/4 kills it and promotes.

I move the archer out of Rome to lure the German galley. We have some empty towns in the north and I don't want it to go over there.

IBT German galley drops a warrior next to Rome . Hadrumetum harbor->galley. Nora horse->horse. Sulcis war->temple.

(5)300AD: vet sword kills the warrior.

vet sword 2/3 kills reg archer.

IBT We sign RoP with Hitties to get to Germany. He turns polite. Rusaddir harbor->galley.

(6)310AD:
vet sword 1/5 kills elite archer.

IBT

Theveste galley->galley.

(7)320AD:

Upgrade 4 horses to knights.

elite horse 3/3 kills reg horse, and spawns a leader.
vet sword 1/2 retreats a horse.

We enter Germany.

IBT one injured sword is killed. Two German horses retreat.

Sabratha riots, sorry.

Hitties starts Sistine Chapel!

(8)330AD:

Our SoD and army move next to Heidelburg.

What do we do with the leader? Akots wants a palace in Utica, but we are not prepared for it yet - for one thing we really should build courthouses in our current core cities first, for another Sun Tzu's is in 5 turns, at last I'm dubious about the whole plan anyway (it will take a lot of effort to develop the new core). So I create a knight army first, which will be extremely powerful.

IBT Hippo temple->knight. Oea MDI->knight.

(9)340AD:

Army 1/3 kills reg spear just to be able to build Heroic Epic.
vet sword 3/3 kills reg spear.
vet sword 0/1 kills horse.
vet sword 0/1 kills horse and Heidelburg is ours.
vet sword 0/1 retreats injured horse.

IBT we learn Theology. One step to Education. I start min sci on Printing Press. An archer and horse attack injured vet sword and promote it.

(10)350AD: We found Calaris. The workers also complete the road to gems at the same turn. I start temple, and it might need more garrison to avoid flip. We lower lux to 10, but have to hire a scientist/taxman in Utica and Veii. I switch Utica to cathedral, but next player can choose whether to continue FP or not.

Hm, why we can't build Heroic Epic? Oops, we have built it!

We lose one sword and take Bremen with the army.

I switch Malaca/Antium/Ravenna to temple as they are under culture pressure.

GOZ3-350AD

I just hope we can get more techs before Education.

And if we want to execute the "gifting Great Library" plan, keep an eye on it!

I think we want to attack Hitties first before England. It's researching fast and if we don't get it in time it might be difficult later. Also it's most likely to provide us techs for concession.

EDIT: luanda is about to riot, and it can rush the galley now. We can also fire the taxman in Viroconium.

roster:

conehead - on deck
grahamiam
akots
microbe - just played
gozpel - UP NOW

 

[conehead234]

Well I don't think we should gift the great library. We don't want one of our most productive cities to be gone.

 

[akots]

The city would have no culture and would be under considerable cultural pressure from the surrounding cities. It may be gifted to some non-religious non-scientific civilization. We may lose some tiles (6 or 7) but with new Palace in Utica/Nora, L magna would not be extremely productive even with FP in Carthage. However, if we can get STAW there, giving it away would be not a good idea. IMHO, with Heroic Epic, STAW, and leader fishing, we can get 10-12 of MGL in no time. The main problem is to transport the armies to the other continents.

 

[grahamiam]

Originally posted by akots
... but with new Palace in Utica/Nora, L magna would not be extremely productive even with FP in Carthage.

We just performed this sort of switcherroo in N3 SG and it worked out ok. we built courthouses in the original core before moving the palace and the FP was in the middle of the old core (not the capitol but 5 away). worked out pretty well. we have a new, undeveloped core but it'll be up and running in no time. and all cities between the FP and palace benefited.

i'll try to edit a link to this post so you can check out the save.

edit: link to N3: link

 

[conehead234]

Gozpel your up.

 

[gozpel]

Ok, I got it.

Been busy for a few days and have to read up on everything, and it seems I'm up EVERYWHERE!

 

[gozpel]

This sucks!

I'm called in over the weekend and have no chance to play.

Can we swap or skip? I'm not sure how the schedule will be next week...

 

[grahamiam]

Originally posted by gozpel
This sucks!

I'm called in over the weekend and have no chance to play.

Can we swap or skip? I'm not sure how the schedule will be next week...

Your SG, your call. I'm sure we can carry on for 1 sequence, more turns for the rest of us to play with knights

 

[gozpel]

You play on and make me proud!

I come back and fix what you broke

 

[grahamiam]

Originally posted by gozpel
I come back and fix what you broke

nothing unusual there check in when you can

conehead - Up, sledgehammer in hand
grahamiam - on deck
akots
microbe - just played
gozpel - takin' what thier givin' 'cause he's workin' for a livin'

 

[conehead234]

Ok I got it. First I will revolt to republic, then declare war on the Spanish. Gift the Great Library to the Romans. Disband all of our swords. And somehow get on the bottem of a dogpile. Finally if my plan goes really well I may trade our techs for no more than 10 gold each. Good plan isn't it.

 

[conehead234]

I will have the turns tonight.

 

[conehead234]

Preturn-Looks good.
IT- Kill a german horse attacking a sword, Carthage market->Knight.
1-movements
IT-Cumae settler->settler.
2- Kill a spear in Hamburg with our knight army.
IT-Hannover settler->settler.
3-Kill 2 more spears in Hamburg and take the city. Lose a sword killing a german horse. Settle St. Coneheadberg.
IT-Renew peace with Rome, Kill an archer, lose a sword. Sun Tzu is built in Lepis Magna.
4-Kill a horse. Spot a Netherlands Galley. Embassy with Netherlands and Korea.
IT- Theveste galley->galley, Hadrumetum galley->galley.
5- Contact and build embassy with Inca. Kill an archer. Settle lol
IT- Spain unloads 2 horses by undefended Thevaste and Hadrumetum, Carthage knight->knight. Utica Cathedral->knight.
6- Politely ask Spain to leave and they declare war. Kill one of the horses with a knight. Knight is protecting Thesevte, Hadrumetum still undefened and no way to get troops there. Kill a spear in Nuremburg. Kill 3 spears and a horse and Berlin is ours.
IT-Lose our incense, get it back for dyes and 270 Gold. The spain horse walks in and captures Hadrumetum. We learn Enginerring and Education from the Great Library, It is obsolete now. Hippo Knight->knight.
7-Kill a spear in Nuremberg and take the city. Kill 3 german horses, Kill a spanish horse and take back Hadrumetum.
IT-Spain lands another warrior. Veii court->knight. Leptis minor knight->knight. Oea knight->knight.
8- Settle Gozpelville. Kill 2 archers. Kill the spainish warrior.
IT-Spain drops off 2 more horses, Sabratha knight->knight.
9-Kill the 2 horses. Kill a german archer.
IT-Leptis Magna knight->knight.
10- Contact zulu, they still in the ancient age.

Remember to avoid using the Nubian Mercenaries in combat to avoid our GA. Germany should be dead soon. Then we should build inferstructure in our cities.

THE SAVE

 

[grahamiam]

ok, got it. i'll probably play and post tomorrow night.

 

[grahamiam]

first, the 550AD save

Preflight check: MM some stuff, change some others to markets, move army’s and elites towards germany. Set research for Printing Press At max (13T).

T1: 460AD Kill some stuff, etc.

IBT: English building Sistine’s

T2: 470AD Capture Leipzig and Cologne; Elite sword dies to archer

Trade Dyes to Netherlands for 11gpt

T3: 480AD Capture Frankfurt

IBT: Hittites building Leonardo’s

T4: 490AD More killing and pointless violence.

T5: 500AD Get GL Hanno killing a German archer with an elite Knight. I’m bringing him back to the main peninsula so we can do the FP – Palace Switch

T6: 510AD Capture Munich

T7: 520AD Position troops around last 2 German Cities

T8: 530AD Capture Konigsberg and Stuttgart, destroying the Germans.

T9: 540AD Nada

T10: 550AD Nada

Notes: we are 3T from PP and we should get a monopoly. Hittites up Astro and Invention. Spain up Astro. Knights templar is due in 8T in Carthage, not sure we’ll get it since I started it so late, however, I did MM Carthage to do 20spt so we may have a chance.

I wasn't sure what to do with all the settlers we are building so I've assembled them in a convenient location. I also changed a bunch of settler builds to temples since we are lacking culture. Next player may want to change.

Also, I grouped a bunch of Knights near Coneheadgrad so the next player can have some fun

 

[grahamiam]

Despicable Despot's

 

[microbe]

Next target is England or Hitties?

Hitties might be tough as it should have musketmen. However if we don't hit it now, it's gonna have cavalry..the ideal case would be we get it down to a couple of cities and take techs for concession.

 

[conehead234]

Go for england next but do not kill rome. We can use them to trigger our GA in Fascism.

 

[grahamiam]

Hittites are small but our navy is smaller. there should be a deal for astronomy available once Printing Press comes in so maybe we can upgrade the galleys and set up a ferry system at the southern end with the extra settlers we have. England is even in tech so nothing to be gained there

 

[gozpel]

Take out the lands that are ours first (our continent), then bother to send troops to the left and the right.

You're doing great lads, it's like I wasn't even missing.

Two more days of heavy toiling and I'll be off.