Greatest RPG's of all time?

Can we expand the discussion a bit to some soon to be released RPGs and the possible impact they may have in terms of 'greatest'?

'Cause it seems to me we should be having a really good year for RPGs overall this year. With games like Diablo III, MassEffect 3, Dragon Age 2, Guild Wars 2, the New Star Wars MMO, and a few others coming out, it seems like its going to be a banner year for RPGs in general.
 
Diablo III hasn't been announced for 2011... I think they announced the game was going to exist about what... 3 years ago now? That would mean by Blizzard account that I wouldn't be surprised if 2013 was a possibility!

I'm most looking forward to Guild Wars 2. (well I'm most looking forward to Diablo III but I have very little hope for a 2011 release)
 
Some interesting discussion here.
I've played D&D and AD&D and other PnP RPGs way back when we didn't have cRPG (hell, we didn't even have computers), I was a GM for a few years, too and never have I used figurines or visual representations (except the occasional map). And it worked just fine.

Anyway, to get back on topic and in no particular order : (And I have to add that the last cRPG I've played is Oblivion, so I didn't try Fallout 3, Witcher or Dragon Age).

Morrowind. Best ever, IMO.
Fallout II. Do I need to explain ?
Planescape : Torment. This one made me cry, so that says something.

I could pull out another couple of old-school games that I really enjoyed, but these three are clearly above all the rest for me. (And also, my memory fails me sometimes :old:).

Cheers,
 
Planescape : Torment is not only the best RPG, but the best game ever made, period.

No contest.
'Cause it seems to me we should be having a really good year for RPGs overall this year. With games like Diablo III, MassEffect 3, Dragon Age 2, Guild Wars 2, the New Star Wars MMO, and a few others coming out, it seems like its going to be a banner year for RPGs in general.
Please, I die a little inside each time someone put Diablo and other hack'n'slash in the "RPG" category. It's fun, yes, but it's an hack'n'slash.
 
inb4 horrible discussion of what is an RPG and what is not. Please let's not have this discussion again.

For the benefit of this thread, I suggest a very loose definition, and no comment about other people's implied definitions!

Please, I die a little inside each time someone put Diablo and other hack'n'slash in the "RPG" category. It's fun, yes, but it's an hack'n'slash.


We already had the horrible discussion in another thread so I had suggested, you know what, let people say whatever they want, it's fiiiiiine. Please please no one take the bait :)
 
Um, no it's not. If you can find confirmation of that congrats, but no.

Nah, no confirmation. Its just what I see on gaming mags and sites, so its a 'best guess' if it gets released this year at all.

Please, I die a little inside each time someone put Diablo and other hack'n'slash in the "RPG" category. It's fun, yes, but it's an hack'n'slash.

With RPG elements. Who says all RPGs have to be the same?

It has character classes.

They level and you choose skills as they level.

They gain access to better equipment as they level.
 
With RPG elements. Who says all RPGs have to be the same?

It has character classes.

They level and you choose skills as they level.

They gain access to better equipment as they level.
If that makes a game an RPG, than Call of Duty: Black Ops is an RPG (which it isn't).
 
With RPG elements. Who says all RPGs have to be the same?

It has character classes.

They level and you choose skills as they level.

They gain access to better equipment as they level.
hum...
ROLE-PLAYING is about getting level, getting skills and getting gear ?

I second PrinceStamp here.
But well, lets drop it, as SimonL requested.
 
Diablo is an action-rpg game. It's specifically put in that genre. Gaining levels and unlocking new gear is different than playing a game with loot drops and experience.
 
So I'm a huge RPG fan,

and although it was not the intent of this thread I must give some kudos to Cyberpunk, Vampire and World of Darkness as my favorite PnP RPG's.

On the PC side I've always been reluctant to buy a new Role Playing Game, the last one was Fallout New Vegas, and before that Fallout 3. So those two will be on my list. For me RPG's on the PC tend to get boring with a lot of walking and nothing happening.
 
I actually wanted to play Planescape: Torment again just now. I did play once through all the way, but I'd like to give the game another fair shake. I did like some story elements, but I was never a big fan of high fantasy settings. I think maybe that's one reason I didn't like it as much as BG2.

I was hoping it would be on steam, but alas, it is not. I do have one old game that works on steam (X-com: UFO), and was hoping this old game would be on steam as well.

I do have the disk, but I'm not sure if it will work with Windows 7. I just tried playing Baldur's Gate 2 just now too. But the game crashed on me when I entered Minsc's inventory. Maybe it's my wide screen graphical settings. The game used to be more stable, but I think maybe with Windows 7 it's not as stable.

I wonder if I should try digging out my PS:T CD.

edit: just trying entering into my inventory again in BG2, it crashes. :( I'm unhappy I can't play one of my favorite rpg's of all time.
 
Got mine for 10$ as a download for life from www.gog.com

Also, Baldur's Gate 2 is set in Forgotten Realms, probably the most typical High Fantasy setting of all times. Elves, dwarves, merchant towns and green forests, dragons and stuff. Compared the the mechanical feel of some parts of Planescape, the fact that Planescape is a weirdly diffuse set of worlds that are hardly mappable, I don't know... It's still fantasy-ish, but it's not the most obvious "high fantasy" I can think of.
 
I did get planescape installed. Still no patches yet. But the game is playable, I created a character, and talked to Morte. The graphics are bit rusty, but not too bad. I still play X-com afterall, and that's an even older game.

I'm looking at this install guide, and it's hella complicated.
http://bootstrike.com/Torment/files.html

I may not bother with the mods and fixes, maybe just a patch. I don't even know how to create a character lol. I"m not sure what stats are good. I remember wisdom being very important, that's all I remember.
 
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