Guess the New Civs

[magzhi]

I am not saying the Khazars or anyone in the central Asia shouldn't be in, just that "In my world map scenario no one starts here" is not a very good argument for a civ to be included. Saying they were culturally important, controlled large amounts of land or made technological improvement are reasons for Civs to be included.

Well I just gave u technological inventions in my first post LOL read it again. Culturally I can say that Samarkand was the main link between on the silk road. In addition it was a huge city which was quite well developed until mongols burned it down xD



P.S.

Khazars

I was talking about Khazakhs

 

[Louis XXIV]

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man."

Here's mine:
I would choose Zulu and Ethiopia (which I stated a few pages back) as two of my picks, partially to fill out the Earth map better. Can't be a worse way than by how I chose the Pheonicians. It's a game, not National Geographics, list of top 30 civilizations ever.

Nor is it a game generally played on a earth map.

 

[Gucumatz]

My Top 18 Civ Choices (14 + 4 Unknown):

1 Ethiopia
2 Portugal
3 Chachapoya
4 Israel
5 Austria (Or Austria Hungary)
6 Kongo
7 Khazars
8 Majapahit
9. Morocco
10 Anasazi/Pueblo
11 Comanche
12 Inuit
13 Assyria
14. Zulu
15. Gran Colombia
16 Poland
17. Brazil
18. Vatican and the Holy Sees.

 

[glockeighteen]

Burma is a civ that hasn't been mentioned much but is worthy IMO. Perhaps as the Pagan Kingdom.

 

[Corm]

Whoever came up with the Khazars idea, give that man a pint! Would be a great inclusion and not one we have had before in Civ's. I hadnt even really heard of them until a few years ago, when I stumbled upon a late night history proggie. Great choice.

 

[Snoopaloop]

Nor is it a game generally played on a earth map.

Nor does that matter. This thread is about people's subjective picks. Maybe I only play the Earth map, thus my decision is based off that. There is not really an incorrect way to choose which 4 remaining civs you personally want to see included. Hopelitejoe can't say choosing by world location is wrong, you can't say choosing by game map type popularity takes a precedence for my choice.

 

[Androrc the Orc]

My Top 18 Civ Choices (14 + 4 Unknown):

1 Ethiopia
2 Portugal
3 Chachapoya
4 Israel
5 Austria (Or Austria Hungary)
6 Kongo
7 Khazars
8 Majapahit
9. Morocco
10 Anasazi/Pueblo
11 Comanche
12 Inuit
13 Assyria
14. Zulu
15. Gran Colombia
16 Poland
17. Brazil
18. Vatican and the Holy Sees.

Nice!

Here's my list:

1. Austria
2. Brazil
3. Hittites
4. Portugal
5. Poland
6. Assyria
7. Tupi
8. Sumeria
9. Arawaks
10. Zulu
11. Ethiopia
12. Israel
13. Quebec
14. Argentina
15. Colombia
16. Mexico
17. Guarani

 

[hoplitejoe]

Well I just gave u technological inventions in my first post. Culturally I can say that Samarkand was the main link between on the silk road. In addition it was a huge city which was quite well developed until mongols burned it down

I was not just replying to your post, I was saying what I think is a bad way to choose civs (I still stand by this).

PS

or anyone in central Asia.

 

[Fabiano79]

1 Phoenicia
2 Hitites
3 Portugal
4 Goths
5 Sumeria
6 Ethiopia
7 Brazil
8 Assyria
9. Zulu
10 Numidia
11 Parthia
12 Tupi
13 Huns
14. Austria
15. Poland
16 Minoan
17. Etruscans
18. Guarani

 

[Civciv5]

1 Phoenicia
2 Hitites
3 Portugal
4 Goths
5 Sumeria
6 Ethiopia
7 Brazil
8 Assyria
9. Zulu
10 Numidia
11 Parthia
12 Tupi
13 Huns
14. Austria
15. Poland
16 Minoan
17. Etruscans
18. Guarani

Phoenica is represented by Carthage.
Hitites are possible.
Portugal is not possible(in this expansion),Lisbon is a city-state.
Goths?Maybe,but not really well known.
Sumeria,unlikely,they did not include them in the Wonders of the Ancient World scenario and too much overlap with other civs.
Ethiopia is possible.
Brazil is very unlikely.
Assyria is unlikely,too much overlap with other civs.
Zulu,likely,altough they are not important.
Numidia is very unlikely,too close to Carthage.
Parthia is very unlikely,Persia is already in.
Tupi are very unlikely,small,unimportant tribe with no cities.
Huns are possible.
Austria is possible.
Poland is possible.
Minoa are unlikely,too close to Greece,part of Greek culture.
Etruscans are too similiar to Romans.
I don't know what "Guarani" is.

 

[ShahJahanII]

Phoenica is represented by Carthage.
Hitites are possible.
Portugal is not possible(in this expansion),Lisbon is a city-state.
Goths?Maybe,but not really well known.
Sumeria,unlikely,they did not include them in the Wonders of the Ancient World scenario and too much overlap with other civs.
Ethiopia is possible.
Brazil is very unlikely.
Assyria is unlikely,too much overlap with other civs.
Zulu,likely,altough they are not important.
Numidia is very unlikely,too close to Carthage.
Parthia is very unlikely,Persia is already in.
Tupi are very unlikely,small,unimportant tribe with no cities.
Huns are possible.
Austria is possible.
Poland is possible.
Minoa are unlikely,too close to Greece,part of Greek culture.
Etruscans are too similiar to Romans.
I don't know what "Guarani" is.

At this point (with 34 confirmed civs) this thread is just for fun.
No need to say anything is "possible" or "impossible".

EDIT: Wrong thread, sorry.
But I think what I said makes sense.
You really have to ask yourself: with 4 civs left, would they really add these in?

 

[Fabiano79]

Sry, I should have said that those were my favorites civs to enter the game, not the more probably.

But, I dont think Phoenicia is represented by Carthage. Its like say that Portugal would be represented by Brazil..

The Guarani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaraní_people

 

[Civciv5]

But the minimum for a civilization is that they have cities(preferably big cities with monuments and history) and agriculture.
The Inuit have no agriculture or (great)"cities".
Guarani have no great cities?

 

[CivOasis]

Are we really going into the whole agriculture and cities thing again?
The Inuit did have cities.
As for agriculture, they:
A) Couldn't have it.
B) Made a quite substantial living off of the sea. Impressive, considering what its like up there.

 

[Fabiano79]

No, neither do the Tupi.

But they are the 2 most populous and relevant indigenous people of south america.

 

[Civciv5]

Maybe the Inuit had "cities",maybe very little,but I think they should have a "ability" in game that they can't build certain improvements such as farms.
And for those other:
I think they can't be in the game because they didn't had cities.
City-building is the basis of the civilization series.
Without cities they can't build units,research technologies...

 

[Green Tico]

If you're going to represent South America, then you have to add Brazil. Gran Colombia is an interesting idea, but Brazil has a bigger footprint in human history. As for the Guarani or Tupi, those indigenous groups, though are fascinating in their own right, would be covered in the similar overlap by other Native American civs out there. I think a Brazilian civ, headed by Dom Pedro II or Getulio Vargas with a cultural bonus UA would be perfect. Perhaps a UB of a stadium that boosts culture. I'm a bit lost as to what their UU could be.

 

[Fabiano79]

I have 3 options for brazilians UU:

- Bandeirante: responsable to explore the land, capture indians to slavery and bring back fugitives slaves. This unit woud replace the scout and would have the power to transform barbs into workers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandeirantes

- Dragoes da independecia: this unit was present on Civ Call to Power (1 or 2, dont remember). Replaces cavalry.

- Jungle troops: Brazil has the best jungle troops in the world. Lots of nations send their soldiers here to train with our army.

 

[Green Tico]

With bandierantes I think you'd run into some technical problem executing something like that and a replacement for a scout seems like a loss. Dragoes da independencia... maybe. Though when many people think Brazil they don't associate cavalry. Jungle troops would probably be the most feasible. Really though, Brazil is a peaceful nation (at least with the rest of the world). It might make more sense to give it another UA like double cultural boosts from GPs or something.

 

[LAnkou]

5 known:
Mayas, Byzantine, Celts, Carthage and Netherlands. Obvious choices for expansion civ...

my guess for the other 4:
Austria-Hungary for the victorian scenario
Zulu in the same victorian scenario (IIRC, Zulu conquest was around that time - Zulu with mechanical weapon!!!)

Europe is full, as is Asia
Africa won't get more than one
Americas got the mayas and polynesia is more than enough for oceania

if we consider fan service, Poland is the top contender and it may be related to the medieval scenario
If the 10th icon is totemism and not tengriism, we may need another northern amerindian civ (a more "great plains" related maybe). well, we don't have much that zoroastrian civ...
Sumer is missing too but there is a babylonian DLC, and they need more "obvious civ for the 2nd expansion (with Portugal, Ethiopia, Thai/khmer, Brazil...)

And while i type it, it strikes me: Indonesia/papouasia/New Guinea
This part of the world is currently free of civ!

So i'll go with Indonesia (with Senopati as a leader), Austria-Hungary (François-joseph), Zulu (Shaka) and the Sioux (Sitting Bull)