Guess the New Civs

[Inhalaattori]

My guess:
Create a new city-style (Eastern European) for: The Huns, Russia, Poland*, and Yugoslavia*

The other new civ, maye the Assyrians

Sorry but having Yugoslavia as a civ would be a total joke. The country existed very short time and it doesnt have any kind of historical relevance.

Having Serbia as civ would make much more sense.

Anyway Poland and Sweden would be best Civs from Europe. They are distinct unlike Austria, which is pretty much little brother of Germany. Sweden and Poland have their own distinct history, culture and language. Austria would not be interesting Civ in my opinion. As a country Austria was important, but not as a Civilization.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

I know this may be a long shot, but could there possibly an aboriginal civilisation thrown in to confuse us...

They lived in a fairly barren continent as continents go for 50,000 years or more. They also co-existed alongside some of the largest (and most dangerous) mammals in the world, and then survived an extinction event (that potentially was contributed to by their hunting)

UA: Hunting Party: All animal resources, (cows, sheep, horses etc.) produce +1 food and reduce construction time of infantry units by 15%
or UA: Mobile Society: All infantry units gain +1 movement

UU: Aboriginal Tracker (Replaces Scout): +1 LOS and greater combat strength than the Scout, however +25% construction time.

UU: Light Infantry (Replaces Modern Infantry) Combat bonus in friendly territory (inspired by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_Strait_Light_Infantry_Battalion)

 

[Civciv5]

But what woud be their capital?
And what would be their cities be?
Ayers Rock?
Alice Springs?
...
I don't like "civilizations" that didn't build cities or were very primitive or didn't had agriculture.
The Aboriginals were not sedentary and all civilizations that were in the civ series had cities or at
least small settlements.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

But what woud be their capital?
And what would be their cities be?
Ayers Rock?
Alice Springs?
...
I don't like "civilizations" that didn't build cities or were very primitive or didn't had agriculture.
The Aboriginals were not sedentary and all civilizations that were in the civ series had cities or at
least small settlements.

all civilizations that were in the civ series had cities

Did somebody say the huns?

Strictly speaking the polynesians weren't city based civilisation until the Europeans said howdy too, but they've made the cut.

The city names could be the names of their nations, which is probably more of a justified system than the one they used for the polynesians incidentally...

You may not like civilisations that aren't city based, but that does not mean they are not civilisations. The whole premise of this game is what if history was different; aboriginals are as human as you or I and subsequently had an equal chance of forming civilisation as we know it, but they didn't. Should that mean they don't also get the [totally realistic] chance of building a giant space ship to fly into space/ building a giant mausoleum that unites the world in peace / getting the majority of nations in the world to vote for you as their ruler and consequently the rest of the world bows to you too / taking over the world.

I know it's not likely, i just think it would be kind of cool

It would also have another jab at this notion of civilisation requiring a Victorian idea of civility.

 

[Cicero63]

In my eyes a civilization in any Civ game should be one that had a great effect on the world, a civ that brought something to the table-whether it be technology, arts, economics, or war. Although some of you are strictly againts the Huns, you have to admit they did have a good affect on Europe. They were a major threat to Rome and later the Byzantines, they spurred the other tribes into invading. You cannot forget their tactics as well. How can you say that the Huns shouldn't be a Civ?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm not normally a fan of "tribal" civs, but the Huns seem to promise an interesting heterodoxy to your normal playstyle. If they are radically different and it works well, I would welcome other unorthodox civilizations with equally unorthodox playstyles.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I know this may be a long shot, but could there possibly an aboriginal civilisation thrown in to confuse us...

Well, if they were added, that certainly would not be the reason, now would it?

 

[Cicero63]

Who would be the leader for an Aboriginal civ?

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Who would be the leader for an Aboriginal civ?

Maybe Windradyne or William Cooper?

I'm not suggesting this is the best candidate civilisation, i'm simply suggesting that after some of the civs we have been given this series it's hard to rule anything out.

We've had the Inuit suggested as candidates, so why not let the Aboriginals have their turn too?

The main problems with this civ are the poor knowledge of it, due to lack of sources and lack of scholarly interest, and that the aboriginals are still thought of as having no significant culture, religion, wars, or technology.

I would argue though that you can absolutely see a distinctive culture (and i don't know how you can define a culture as more significant than the next unless its classed simply as more different). These people survived well passed the majority of other nomadic people and developed an advanced nomadic culture as a consequence. History did not stand still in Australia.

 

[bonafide11]

I'm not usually opposed to any civilization, but we know far too little about the Aboriginals to consider them for a civilization. I doubt Firaxis would go that far out of the box when there are only a few unknown civs at this time and Africa is still highly underrepresented.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

I'm not usually opposed to any civilization, but we know far too little about the Aboriginals to consider them for a civilization. I doubt Firaxis would go that far out of the box when there are only a few unknown civs at this time and Africa is still highly underrepresented.

"only a few unknown civs"

I suppose you know that then

 

[bonafide11]

"only a few unknown civs"

I suppose you know that then

Huh? All I'm saying is, as of last I saw, I think there are three civilizations left that we do not know in G&K. Considering the ones already selected and already in the game, there is a huge whole in Africa, so it's hard to imagine Firaxis selecting a civilization that we barely know anything about like the Aboriginals.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Huh? All I'm saying is, as of last I saw, I think there are three civilizations left that we do not know in G&K. Considering the ones already selected and already in the game, there is a huge whole in Africa, so it's hard to imagine Firaxis selecting a civilization that we barely know anything about like the Aboriginals.

Oh i see, apologies. I thought you may have been implying there are only a few civilisations we have yet to discover.

No I agree with you, i doubt it. As far as i'm aware they hadn't been suggested though, and whilst i agree Africa is horrifically ignored, Australia is more so. Maybe that logic will lead them to the aboriginals, maybe it will lead them to question why Australia in under-represented and think about Africa again. I'm just excited, and i was quite pleased with the attributes i'd imagined for the aboiriginals

 

[Nirosi]

With the Huns Majapahit becomes unlikelyer and unlikelyer.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I don't think the Huns have any direct effect on their likelihood at all except for it reveals a civ that isn't them.

I know that my most requested Civ got a CS explicitly mentioned. Lack of city-state mention is a positive sign. Basically, as long as there are slots and it hasn't been ruled out, you can feel free to hope for their inclusion. I'm always for more Islamic states so I hope they (or just Indonesia) are included. But who knows at this point?

 

[Androrc the Orc]

Sorry but having Yugoslavia as a civ would be a total joke. The country existed very short time and it doesnt have any kind of historical relevance.

Having Serbia as civ would make much more sense.

Anyway Poland and Sweden would be best Civs from Europe. They are distinct unlike Austria, which is pretty much little brother of Germany. Sweden and Poland have their own distinct history, culture and language. Austria would not be interesting Civ in my opinion. As a country Austria was important, but not as a Civilization.

Strauss, Mozart, Freud, Mendel... A civilization which had a great impact in classical music, invented psychology and discovered genetics is not relevant? And that's only to mention a few aspects.

 

[Liex]

Austria would not be interesting Civ in my opinion. As a country Austria was important, but not as a Civilization.

I remember spending hours debating over the 'Civilization' concept in a Politics class. It was a massive, inconclusive argument (except for the consensus on how we couldn't take Samuel Huntington seriously). It's a word I would avoid to use in the context you did.

Strauss, Mozart, Freud, Mendel... A civilization which had a great impact in classical music, invented psychology and discovered genetics is not relevant? And that's only to mention a few aspects.

And Schubert, above them all!

 

[chazzycat]

Hungary was one of my original picks, with the Huns I'm changing it to Austria now

 

[AbsintheRed]

Hungary was one of my original picks

with the Huns in

I'm changing it to Austria now

 

[guczy]

You are rooting for the inclusion of Austria on the 15th of March....Duuuuuude!