Handy 19 Grumpy Old Men try AWD standard map
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handy900
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Obormot said:
Bugs - it's yours via swap if you can play & post tonight. Otherwise we can wait since thre is no big hurry.
I'm gone for the 3 day Labor-Day weekend holday.
So you can skip me if the game comes around to me Fri - Sun.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I have it.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight 750 AD Paris doesnt have a barracks. I switch it and short rush it. We have a lot of cities producing military units with a barracks.
IBT We get this bit of news:
The Carthaginians drop off a settler pair.
We learn Astronomy from our soothsayers a turn early. Must be because there is one less civ around. We go for banking, due in 8.
760 Were not at war with Carthage? Since I cant remember whether we are negotiating or not negotiating, I decide to not negotiate and declare war. Found Kahnawake. The Spaniards are trying to get Pampalona back. We thwart that effort.
770 We start pressing northward into India. Gandhi isnt putting up much resistance, everything is coming from the Spaniards. Kill five of them.
IBT Some English LBs are dropped off.
780 - @ Jaipur Use two MDI armies to kill off the defending spears and raze it.
IBT The Indians drop off a slave pair. Watch a Spanish galley sink an Indian galley.
790 Collect the two slaves. Continue marching north.
IBT - Two jumbos leave Karachi attacking Spaniards and return wounded.
800 - @ Karachi Knock off two spears and the two wounded jumbos
Hurry two caravels.
IBT We get this bit of news:
The Carthaginians drop off a settler pair.
We learn Astronomy from our soothsayers a turn early. Must be because there is one less civ around. We go for banking, due in 8.
760 Were not at war with Carthage? Since I cant remember whether we are negotiating or not negotiating, I decide to not negotiate and declare war. Found Kahnawake. The Spaniards are trying to get Pampalona back. We thwart that effort.
770 We start pressing northward into India. Gandhi isnt putting up much resistance, everything is coming from the Spaniards. Kill five of them.
IBT Some English LBs are dropped off.
780 - @ Jaipur Use two MDI armies to kill off the defending spears and raze it.
IBT The Indians drop off a slave pair. Watch a Spanish galley sink an Indian galley.
790 Collect the two slaves. Continue marching north.
IBT - Two jumbos leave Karachi attacking Spaniards and return wounded.
800 - @ Karachi Knock off two spears and the two wounded jumbos
Hurry two caravels.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
IBT Babylonians build Bachs.
810 Found Caughnawaga..
IBT The English drop off a cav, a musket and a settler in former Indian lands.
Banking=>physics
Babylonians build Newtons
820 Found Gandasetaigon. Marching on Murcia. Physics due in five after MM.
830 Found Ganogeh. @ Murcia Bombard then kill the four defenders and
IBT Watch Gandhi empty Kolhapur.
840 - @ Kolhapur Kill the two defending spears and
Load up our two caravels for an invasion.
IBT I get a riot.
850 Found Gayagaahe. Start marching towards Seville.
Land next to Nimrud.
As soon as we get a galleon we need to send an army across to Babylon.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Handy19,_850_AD.SAV
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810 Found Caughnawaga..
IBT The English drop off a cav, a musket and a settler in former Indian lands.
Banking=>physics
Babylonians build Newtons
820 Found Gandasetaigon. Marching on Murcia. Physics due in five after MM.
830 Found Ganogeh. @ Murcia Bombard then kill the four defenders and
IBT Watch Gandhi empty Kolhapur.
840 - @ Kolhapur Kill the two defending spears and
Load up our two caravels for an invasion.
IBT I get a riot.
850 Found Gayagaahe. Start marching towards Seville.
Land next to Nimrud.
As soon as we get a galleon we need to send an army across to Babylon.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Handy19,_850_AD.SAV
Edit - 5,000 posts.
handy900
Deity
Minin map looks like we do not know for sure where the big land mass is. Let's explore with the caravels. We may be save in a stack long enough to find a passage until ironclads show up.
Roster
1. Handy gone Fri to Mon
2. ThERat
3. Greebley
4. Bede
5. M60A3TTS
6. Obormot UP
7. Sir Bugsy swaped with Obormot
Roster
1. Handy gone Fri to Mon
2. ThERat
3. Greebley
4. Bede
5. M60A3TTS
6. Obormot UP
7. Sir Bugsy swaped with Obormot
IBT
- spanish and indians are fighting each other
- English ship captures 2 bab boats
860AD
- I desiced to split our forces in spain into 2 parts: armies go deeper into spanish territory and will attack cities without bombardment, knights and trebs covered by 1 army advance more slowly destroying towns after taking defenders to 1 hp.
- Capture Nimrud (bab island), send caravells to explore
870AD
- Raze Seville, settle new town
880AD
- Learn physics, magnetism next in 7 turns
- Caravells find some new bab land. It is not clear yet if it is another small island or not.
890
- Raze Barselona, but loose a green MDI army attacking a pike.
900
-
910
- Settle 2 new cities in spain
920
- Burn Madrid. Capture Zaragossa.
930
-
IBT
- Zaragossa flips. I had a knight standing nearby, but moved him away to deal with an indian landing. Will recapture it one turn later.
940
-
IBT
- A WE killes our knight and razes newly founded city in Spain.
950
- Magnetism is learned, metallurgy is next in 4 turns. Rush 2 galeons.
- Recapture Zaragossa
I lost many knights during the spanish campaign even though i attacked only redlined defenders. The situation:
The galleys found several other bab small islands, but didn't find the mainland. I think that war with knights against rifles is useless, but it would still be nice to start pillaging now.
The save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Hndy18_950AD.SAV
- spanish and indians are fighting each other
- English ship captures 2 bab boats
860AD
- I desiced to split our forces in spain into 2 parts: armies go deeper into spanish territory and will attack cities without bombardment, knights and trebs covered by 1 army advance more slowly destroying towns after taking defenders to 1 hp.
- Capture Nimrud (bab island), send caravells to explore
870AD
- Raze Seville, settle new town
880AD
- Learn physics, magnetism next in 7 turns
- Caravells find some new bab land. It is not clear yet if it is another small island or not.
890
- Raze Barselona, but loose a green MDI army attacking a pike.
900
-
910
- Settle 2 new cities in spain
920
- Burn Madrid. Capture Zaragossa.
930
-
IBT
- Zaragossa flips. I had a knight standing nearby, but moved him away to deal with an indian landing. Will recapture it one turn later.
940
-
IBT
- A WE killes our knight and razes newly founded city in Spain.
950
- Magnetism is learned, metallurgy is next in 4 turns. Rush 2 galeons.
- Recapture Zaragossa
I lost many knights during the spanish campaign even though i attacked only redlined defenders. The situation:
The galleys found several other bab small islands, but didn't find the mainland. I think that war with knights against rifles is useless, but it would still be nice to start pillaging now.
The save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Hndy18_950AD.SAV
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Here is some very nice news. That means that four of our five opponents are in at least two wars.Obormot said:
ThERat
Deity
got it, since Handy is not around
our continent seems huge, but according to the victory screen, Babylon has 21% landmass. We currently have 27% already, if we take all the Spanish and Indian land and some Babylond landmass, it might be enough to get domination.
our continent seems huge, but according to the victory screen, Babylon has 21% landmass. We currently have 27% already, if we take all the Spanish and Indian land and some Babylond landmass, it might be enough to get domination.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
If we're going to go for domination we need to start a few temples in strategic locations and settle a few out of the way locations.
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-Turn
our capital has 2 specialists at 9spt, this is not efficient, increase lux to 10%
IT animation has been switched off and I barely see whats going on, some English boats attack
1. 960AD
we have enough workers, all land is almost all improved, we only need them for RR project
send 2 caravels up and discover Spanish landmass
swap units around and go for 0% lux
IT some Indian units are near Valencia including an elephant
2. 970AD
found New Salamanca
take out the phant and 2 LB's
start to attack Toledo with 3 armies, defeat 5 units and raze it for 5 slaves and 1 treb
IT spot 2 Indian settler pairs, we need more slaves
3. 980AD
found Mauch Chunk
IT our pillager army to babylon land keeps on course unharmed
we get metallurgy, MT next in 6
4. 990AD
found Kiohero
while sailing to babs front, spot 2 frigattes and 1 galleon
IT babs sail past us, shows you how stupid the AI is
Nimrud deposed us, not too unexpected, we should have razed that town
5. 1000AD
someone must have gotten MT, since research drops to 4
not sure whether dropping the army where I did was a good idea, what i thought should be the continent seems another archipelago
almost lose green knight army attacking a pike in Santiago
land knights on Spanish Island
IT 3 phants leave Indian cities
6. 1010AD
attack all 3 phants, lose 1 knight but defeat them
manage to raze Santiago, Spain has only 3 cities on the Island left
where we landed is surely not the continent, where on earth is it then?
IT 2 more phants come out and defeat 2 knights
one of our exploring caravels gets attacked but promotes
7. 1020AD
defeat 2 phants and 1 spear, but our defense is paper thin in the north, we need rails faster
capture Valladolid, raze Lahore
IT our galleon gets sunk, now the army is stranded on that Island
Indians seems to have endless phants, 2 more come out to kill 2 knights, can barely hold the north
Valencia gets deposed, I will get rid of such a town, I can't understand why we kept it in the first place
8. 1030AD
raze Valencia, kill both phants and kill a settler pair
reduce science to 20%
IT we get MT, ToG as next needed tech in 5
9. 1040AD
upgrade a few knights, advance in India
10. 1050AD
raze Bangalore, which has only 1 defender
capture Logrono and Spain is down to 1 city
ToG in 4, next player can upgrade some knight, since we have 382g.
Once we have steam, we need to RR fast to be able to defend. Our defense is thin.
I have been building some libraries in the core to improve our research, that is doing well
Spain (1 city) and India (4 cities) should be defeated fast, be careful though, there is an elephant in the fog that will attack in the IT
we have a knight army inside the galleon to drop next to Spanish town next turn
our stranded army on babs Island unable to do anything
as you can see on the minimap, the main continent is still somewhere hidden. Maybe we need to do some Island hopping with
a knight army to cover Cav's. that way we could gain some land.
our stats are 29/42 and with all the empty land settled, we can gain a lot.
Pre-Turn
our capital has 2 specialists at 9spt, this is not efficient, increase lux to 10%
IT animation has been switched off and I barely see whats going on, some English boats attack
1. 960AD
we have enough workers, all land is almost all improved, we only need them for RR project
send 2 caravels up and discover Spanish landmass
swap units around and go for 0% lux
IT some Indian units are near Valencia including an elephant
2. 970AD
found New Salamanca
take out the phant and 2 LB's
start to attack Toledo with 3 armies, defeat 5 units and raze it for 5 slaves and 1 treb
IT spot 2 Indian settler pairs
, we need more slaves3. 980AD
found Mauch Chunk
IT our pillager army to babylon land keeps on course unharmed
we get metallurgy, MT next in 6
4. 990AD
found Kiohero
while sailing to babs front, spot 2 frigattes and 1 galleon
IT babs sail past us, shows you how stupid the AI is
Nimrud deposed us, not too unexpected, we should have razed that town
5. 1000AD
someone must have gotten MT, since research drops to 4
not sure whether dropping the army where I did was a good idea, what i thought should be the continent seems another archipelago
almost lose green knight army attacking a pike in Santiago
land knights on Spanish Island
IT 3 phants leave Indian cities
6. 1010AD
attack all 3 phants, lose 1 knight but defeat them
manage to raze Santiago, Spain has only 3 cities on the Island left
where we landed is surely not the continent, where on earth is it then?
IT 2 more phants come out and defeat 2 knights
one of our exploring caravels gets attacked but promotes
7. 1020AD
defeat 2 phants and 1 spear, but our defense is paper thin in the north, we need rails faster
capture Valladolid, raze Lahore
IT our galleon gets sunk, now the army is stranded on that Island
Indians seems to have endless phants, 2 more come out to kill 2 knights, can barely hold the north
Valencia gets deposed, I will get rid of such a town, I can't understand why we kept it in the first place
8. 1030AD
raze Valencia, kill both phants and kill a settler pair
reduce science to 20%
IT we get MT, ToG as next needed tech in 5
9. 1040AD
upgrade a few knights, advance in India
10. 1050AD
raze Bangalore, which has only 1 defender
capture Logrono and Spain is down to 1 city
ToG in 4, next player can upgrade some knight, since we have 382g.
Once we have steam, we need to RR fast to be able to defend. Our defense is thin.
I have been building some libraries in the core to improve our research, that is doing well
Spain (1 city) and India (4 cities) should be defeated fast, be careful though, there is an elephant in the fog that will attack in the IT
we have a knight army inside the galleon to drop next to Spanish town next turn
our stranded army on babs Island unable to do anything
as you can see on the minimap, the main continent is still somewhere hidden. Maybe we need to do some Island hopping with
a knight army to cover Cav's. that way we could gain some land.
our stats are 29/42 and with all the empty land settled, we can gain a lot.
Sorry for those flips, i thought we are going to destroy Spain soon so i kept some towns. I forgot to check if they have some towns on islands.
I guess we need more ships now. Maybe capturing those islands is a good idea: they'll give us some land and are usually poor defended compared to mainland. I guess we cannot attack the mainland before we do some pillaging there and bring some cannons.
I guess we need more ships now. Maybe capturing those islands is a good idea: they'll give us some land and are usually poor defended compared to mainland. I guess we cannot attack the mainland before we do some pillaging there and bring some cannons.
You guys are insane. How do you do that?
Great progress guys. I am away as I mentioned so I will need a skip. I can access the internet, but no access to playing the game.
Interesting map.
Interesting map.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Roster Check
1. Handy gone Fri to Mon
2. ThERat - Just Played
3. Greebley - Also away
4. Bede - Up
5. M60A3TTS - On deck
6. Obormot
7. Sir Bugsy
1. Handy gone Fri to Mon
2. ThERat - Just Played
3. Greebley - Also away
4. Bede - Up
5. M60A3TTS - On deck
6. Obormot
7. Sir Bugsy
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
We may have found the Babylonian mainland and just don't realize it. In Bede's last screenie it shows the cultural borders southwest of Sippar fully developed. Since F11 says we're #2 in land, then Hammi has to be #1 and my guess is that our newly landed knight army is at the extreme tip of the mainland. If it isn't, it has to be darned close to there.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
M60 - I think you may be right. We'll need to scout a bit with our navy. Although that was Rat's last screenie
