Hawk03-5CC Persian Astronauts

[killerkid]

This will be a low-key war for the happiness it will bring. Do you think I should align Germany, England, both or neither against the Greeks? It would probably end in a stalemate, as hoplites are too dominant.

I will play today, but would like opinions on the Military Alliances first.

 

[choxorn]

Well, we could, but there's always the danger that one side would gain the upper hand and pwn the other, and I'm not sure how long we want to fight this war.

 

[Tasslehoff]

If we get the Germans at war, then we've got an effective shield against Greek units. Since Lizzie is still between them, it's unlikely that there will be many cities captured, and it's more likely to end in stalemate, which is good for us. On the other hand, that commits us to 20 turns of war.

*shrug*

 

[killerkid]

I don't think I'll make any alliances. 20 turns is probably too many. I will play in a couple hours.

 

[killerkid]

Sorry guys, I need a skip.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Roster:
Tasslehoff: Just Played
killerkid: Skippy
choxorn: UP
sk8boardbob: On Deck
Hawk
Overseer

Beatcha to it, Chox!

 

[choxorn]

Got it, but I can't play tonight. I'll do so tomorrow night.

 

[choxorn]

Done, my turnset is relatively boring. Alex will talk peace, but he demands about a third of our treasury (140 gold) for it.

Pre-Turn (750 BC):
-I notice that England and Germany both have Mathematics and will trade both it and their entire treasury for Philosophy. Since Philosophy is pretty worthless in PTW, I decide to trade it. It is sold to Germany for Mathematics, 20 gold, and WM, and to England for 47 gold and WM. We now have a map of the entire continent.

IBT:
-A Carthaginian NM/Settler pair is trying to get in behind us.
-Persepolis: Horse->Harbor
-Pasargadae: Immo->Temple

Turn 1 (730 BC):
-Our warrior trapped near Greece is misclicked west, and finds a Greek Warrior/Settler Pair. He’ll try to kill them next turn.

IBT:
Zzz

Turn 2 (710 BC):
-Epic Phail, our Warrior dies. (0-1)

IBT:
-Carthage is building the GLH, yay.
-The Mongols build the Oracle in Karakorum.

Turn 3 (690 BC):
Zzz

IBT:
-Susa: Temple->Harbor

Turn 4-5 (670-650 BC):
Zzz

IBT:
-Bismarck wants to trade World Maps, no thanks.

Turn 6 (630 BC):
-We have a fair amount of gold, I notice, so I upgrade the Warriors in Persepolis to Immos. The one in Susa will have to wait for rax to be built.

IBT:
-Carthage requests a WM trade, Sorry, no.
-They also build a city in a location that is asking for trouble, and send a couple of settler pairs near Susa.
-Arbela: Galley->Galley

Turn 7 (610 BC):
-I blockade the chokepoint to keep Carthage’s settlers from getting through.

IBT:
-Carthage’s Settler pairs retreat.
-Susa gets a border expansion, the Horses colony is disintegrated.

Turn 8 (590 BC):
-Alex will talk, but he expects to get 140 gold for peace. Uh, no.

IBT:
-Persepolis: Harbor->Temple (I want to fix the unhappiness)

Turn 9 (570 BC):
Zzz

IBT:
-Otto complains that our Galley is in his country. Fine, we’ll leave shortly.
-Pasargadae: Temple->Immo
-We lose our supply of Gems.

Turn 10 (550 BC):
-Re-buy Gems from Carthage for 4 gpt.


Here's a Pic, just because:



Sabratha will eventually need to be "taken care of".

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Roster:
Tasslehoff:
killerkid: Skippy
choxorn: Just Played
sk8boardbob: UP
Hawk: On Deck
Overseer

 

[sk8boardbob2]

I have the file and will play tomorrow.

 

[killerkid]

We need to focus on building our infrastructure and getting enough immortals so that we are prepared, but not so many that we go over the unit support limit.

 

[sk8boardbob2]

530-IBT disorder in Persepolis (why didn't the last person check this?)
510- zzzz
IBT- We see 3 Carthagian settle parties
490- Arbela galley-> galley
470- Pasagardae culture expands
450- Pasagardae Immortal-> horsemen
430- Persepolis temple-> great lighthouse
410- galleys explore
390-suicide galley
370- Pasagardae horsemen-> horsemen
Arbela galley-> galley
2 Greek warriors near Pasagardae, 2 horseman and a spear sent
first horseman redlines a warrior and dies
second wins, loses 2 hp
our suicide galley someone how lasts 3 turns and spots land, we meet the egyptians

Spoiler :

350- spearmen kills lasts greek warrior, no health lost

 

[TheOverseer714]

Good job, we can get communications with everyone now, but don't trade our contacts away, so that we can control inter-continental tech trade until Astronomy.

 

[choxorn]

530-IBT disorder in Persepolis (why didn't the last person check this?)

That's odd, it was perfectly fine when I checked it.

Of course, we should buy communications (and WM's) of the other continent from Egypt.

Roster:
sk8boardbob: Just Played
Hawk: UP
Overseer: On Deck
Tasslehoff
killerkid
choxorn

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 0(350 BC)-Trade 350 gold for Egypt’s WM & Contact w/Aztecs
Turn 1 (330 BC)-Explore w/boats
-We are up Code of Laws to Aztecs, they only have 9 gold to offer us
-We are even w/the Mongols, who are on the other continent
IBT-Susa- Harbor<Barracks (7 turns)
Turn 2 (310 BC)-More exploring
IBT- Our Spear is in German territory, they ask us to leave
Germany is up Construction, but I don’t want to trade our contacts for it
Pasargadae-Horse<Horse (4 turns)
Increase luxury to 40% to prevent riots, Republic still at 13 turns
Turn 3 (290 BC)- Palace expands
IBT-Arbela- Galley<Barracks (8 turns)
Turn 4 (250 BC)-More exploring, we lose 1 Galley
-English will trade Poly for 200 gold & Construct for 325 gold
-Germans will trade Construct for 325 gold
-Greek will do peace for 140 gold
-trading 200 gold to English for Poly
IBT- Mongols & Egypt building The Great Lighthouse
Turn 5 (230 BC)-workers road
IBT- Pasargadae-Horse<Immortal (4 turns)
Turn 6 (210 BC)-workers clear forest
IBT- Greek archer & warrior appear from North
English has built The Great Lighthouse
Turn 7 (190 BC)-Send horses out to meet the Greeks
Horse kill Greek Archer (1-0)
Greek Warrior redlines horse
Horse kills Greek Warrior (2-0)
Greeks have lowered peace terms to 120 gold
Lower luxury to 20%, Republic in 8 turns
IBT- English has alliance w/Greeks against us
Switch Persepolis to Galley
Susa-Barracks<Immortal (5 turns)
Greeks have built The Great Wall
Turn 8 (170 BC)-Establish embassy w/Carthage for 27 gold
-We could recruit Carthage to declare war on England for Math, Poly, & 75 gold
IBT-Persepolis-Galley<Horse (3 turns)
Turn 9 (150 BC)- Send injured horses back to Pasargadae
IBT-Pasargadae-Immortal<Immortal (3 turns)
Arbela-Barracks<Harbor (12 turns)
Turn 10 (130 BC)- more exploring
The Republic in 5 turns
150 gold +8gpt

Spoiler :

 

[Tasslehoff]

5 turns to republic... The germans will pay soon...

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Should we do the alliance w/Carthage vs. England that I mentioned?
Or should we wait until we have the Republic, the strike against Germany & England ourselves?

 

[choxorn]

Let Carthage do some of the fighting for us.

Overseer, if you don't already know, you're up.

 

[Bucephalus]

lurker's comment:

I would suggest that you prioritize clearing some room for your fifth city.

 

[CivRulesAll]

you should build your final city where Munich is so you at least get ONE luxury
also KT is an option