HBO: A Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)
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He was gullible enough.
I dislike dubbing in general, because:
1) The voice acting and sync are liable to suck. It takes away from the original actor if you can't hear him/her.
2) So is translation. When subtitles are poorly translated, I can at least hear what is being said and ignore the subs. With dubbing, that is not an option. Nevermind stuff that is bound to get lost in translation.
3) Watching stuff with subs is an excellent way of learning a language you don't know.
4) Damnit, people, learn to read!
And the benefits?
None that I can see. Except when the audience is children, who are not supposed to read yet anyway.
1) The voice acting and sync are liable to suck. It takes away from the original actor if you can't hear him/her.
2) So is translation. When subtitles are poorly translated, I can at least hear what is being said and ignore the subs. With dubbing, that is not an option. Nevermind stuff that is bound to get lost in translation.
3) Watching stuff with subs is an excellent way of learning a language you don't know.
4) Damnit, people, learn to read!
And the benefits?
None that I can see. Except when the audience is children, who are not supposed to read yet anyway.
Another strong episode. The child actors are really strong, as are the wolf actors.
Particular highlights:
Particular highlights:
Spoiler :
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The whole kingsroad bit looks quite uneventful in the great scheme of things, but it finally shows the viewer who hasn't read the books what a royal prick Joeffrey is.
My main complaint about the episode would be that the hound looks too non-threatening, but that's what I now dub the POV effect. In the books we first see him through the eyes of the Stark children and he's a really scary dude, in the series he's presented from a neutral (or Ned's) viewpoint and he's just callous.
It's maybe a bit too early to say anything definate, but so far so good imho.
They've really managed to bring the world of ASOIAF alive, Winterfell, Wall and all the other locations are pretty much how I imagined them to be, maybe even better than how I imagined them to be. Also most of the actors are excellent, Peter Dinklage especially is brilliant, not to mention the actors of Jaime, Cersei and surprisingly the Stark-kids. And while The Hound didn't look so threatening, true, Ilyn Payne on the other hand looked even scarier than how I imagined him to be. Also the opening intro is awesome, full stop.
I think so far my only problem has been with the acting of Jon Snow, the guy has only one impression and even then he has his mouth open so that he looks a bit silly. And Sansa Stark looks waaay older than 13, she's as tall as Ned is!
But yeah, I wonder how people who have never read the books will figure everything out as even I had to reminisce who was who and I've read the books two times through.
They've really managed to bring the world of ASOIAF alive, Winterfell, Wall and all the other locations are pretty much how I imagined them to be, maybe even better than how I imagined them to be. Also most of the actors are excellent, Peter Dinklage especially is brilliant, not to mention the actors of Jaime, Cersei and surprisingly the Stark-kids. And while The Hound didn't look so threatening, true, Ilyn Payne on the other hand looked even scarier than how I imagined him to be. Also the opening intro is awesome, full stop.
I think so far my only problem has been with the acting of Jon Snow, the guy has only one impression and even then he has his mouth open so that he looks a bit silly. And Sansa Stark looks waaay older than 13, she's as tall as Ned is!
But yeah, I wonder how people who have never read the books will figure everything out as even I had to reminisce who was who and I've read the books two times through.
The Hound could've needed more hideous scars imo - I've imagined him to be burnt from right along the noseline. This would help to get his creepiness across until there can be scenes that showcase his character more.
I think the casting is really spot on, I've even started to guess characters before they're introduced and it almost always works
I'm also currently wondering if they're consciously trying to portray Catelyn in a better light. In the first episode, she was always more or less firmly against Ned becoming Hand (in the books she even persuaded him to accept to investigate if Lysa's letter says the truth) and now in the second episode, they surprisingly cut the "you should be dead, Jon Snow" moment when he says goodbye to Bran. Both these accounts are among the main arguments of Catelyn-haters in the fandom ...
I think the casting is really spot on, I've even started to guess characters before they're introduced and it almost always works
I'm also currently wondering if they're consciously trying to portray Catelyn in a better light. In the first episode, she was always more or less firmly against Ned becoming Hand (in the books she even persuaded him to accept to investigate if Lysa's letter says the truth) and now in the second episode, they surprisingly cut the "you should be dead, Jon Snow" moment when he says goodbye to Bran. Both these accounts are among the main arguments of Catelyn-haters in the fandom ...
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I think the casting is really spot on, I've even started to guess characters before they're introduced and it almost always works
Migth have something to do with the fact that you know the books and recogni ze the scenes.
"Oh, that's the one with the creepy executioner".
But yes, apart from Theon Greyjoy the casting is quite good.
I don't think they just try to make CAtelyn look more sympathetic, they also show Cersei in a better light. It becomes apparent very quickly how unhappy she is with her marriage to Robert. Tyrion on the other hand seems to be quite a bit meaner than I remember him in the books.
The hatred Catelyn displays against Jon Snow in the books has always felt a bit...out of place to me. She didn't strike me as a person who would so relentlessly hate someone merely because something his father did.
Well I'm halfway through the book, and overall I find most of the characters dis-likable or at least I'm indifferent to them.
Eddard is ok but he strikes me as a stubborn dullard.
Catelyn I don't care for in either the book or show.
Sansa is an empty headed cheerleader and I though the Hound's characterization of her was spot on. I felt more sympathy for her dog than her.
Robert is meh, he's the fat English king archetype which has existed since Henry VIII
Ceresi I despise and I'm not sure why they're making her more symphathethic in the show
Jaimie looks too much like Prince Charming from Shrek for me to take seriously as a character anymore.
Viserys, again the show has ruined him, that hair is just ridiculous also the book shows how pathetic he is.
Characters I've liked the most have been:
Tyrion, he's a well developed characther with a unique condition and I like him.
Arya, I sense promising things in store for her. So much better than Sansa.
Jon, I like him in the book but in the show he always has his mouth open and looks like an imbecile.
Daneyers, I like her development and growing assertiveness.
I have no opinion on:
Robb, he seems decent enough
Bran, he was injured too early in the show and book for you to care about it.
Rickon, is not even around
Eddard is ok but he strikes me as a stubborn dullard.
Catelyn I don't care for in either the book or show.
Sansa is an empty headed cheerleader and I though the Hound's characterization of her was spot on. I felt more sympathy for her dog than her.
Robert is meh, he's the fat English king archetype which has existed since Henry VIII
Ceresi I despise and I'm not sure why they're making her more symphathethic in the show
Jaimie looks too much like Prince Charming from Shrek for me to take seriously as a character anymore.
Viserys, again the show has ruined him, that hair is just ridiculous also the book shows how pathetic he is.
Characters I've liked the most have been:
Tyrion, he's a well developed characther with a unique condition and I like him.
Arya, I sense promising things in store for her. So much better than Sansa.
Jon, I like him in the book but in the show he always has his mouth open and looks like an imbecile.
Daneyers, I like her development and growing assertiveness.
I have no opinion on:
Robb, he seems decent enough
Bran, he was injured too early in the show and book for you to care about it.
Rickon, is not even around
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This show hasn't made it to Aus yet (that I know) but that clip makes me want to watch this even more. Will just have to re-read the book again.
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Really loving it so far, it's pretty much everything I could have hoped for from an adaptation.
Especially that Joffrey getting slapped bit.
Especially that Joffrey getting slapped bit.
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I just saw the two episodes recently, and have to say I am a little confused on the backstory.
That one effeminate blonde guy that marries his sister to the half naked barbarian was the heir to the throne back where the Starks (sean bean clan) live? Is this what is meant when the pudgy king remarks that a lot of his nobles refer to him as a usurper?
Is there some sort of magical element to the story's setting? I don't expect to see many wizards or ghosts. It seems like the characters themselves believe in the supernatural and mystical forces, but does is it just superstition not based on the setting's reality?
Dragons, real or no? Extinct? Are those real fossilized dragon eggs?
That one effeminate blonde guy that marries his sister to the half naked barbarian was the heir to the throne back where the Starks (sean bean clan) live? Is this what is meant when the pudgy king remarks that a lot of his nobles refer to him as a usurper?
Is there some sort of magical element to the story's setting? I don't expect to see many wizards or ghosts. It seems like the characters themselves believe in the supernatural and mystical forces, but does is it just superstition not based on the setting's reality?
Dragons, real or no? Extinct? Are those real fossilized dragon eggs?
Just going of information from the show:
Viserys (blonde guy) and Daenarys (his sister) are the two remaining children of the former King, who was killed by Jaime (L'oreal hair guy) during a rebellion by the current King and Ned (Sean Bean).
Dragons are extinct.
Viserys (blonde guy) and Daenarys (his sister) are the two remaining children of the former King, who was killed by Jaime (L'oreal hair guy) during a rebellion by the current King and Ned (Sean Bean).
Dragons are extinct.
Kan' Sharuminar
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That's pretty much it.
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Also there is some magic, but it's rather dubious and nidirect and hardly plays a role in book one/season one.
Think curses rather than lighning from the fingertips.
Think curses rather than lighning from the fingertips.
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Are dwarves in the series just like dwarves in real life, just genetically that way, or is there some other reason? How do they differ from real life?
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