History Quiz III (with rules)

[pawpaw]

Pls stop posting smiley-only posts. Thanks - XIII

i just got modded-shock and awe

 

[jack merchant]

Those smilies seemed a perfectly acceptable form of non-verbal communication to me

To rephrase my question, which foreign official was the first to salute the American flag and thus to effectively recognize American independence ?

 

[Serutan]

Originally posted by jack merchant
Those smilies seemed a perfectly acceptable form of non-verbal communication to me

To rephrase my question, which foreign official was the first to salute the American flag and thus to effectively recognize American independence ?

Wouldn't happen to be the Dutch foreign minister? Although
it's not talked of much, I know that the Dutch helped the Americans, particularly IIRC with loans.

 

[jack merchant]

It was a Dutchman, but not the foreign minister. Rather, it was the Dutch Governor of the Caribbean island of St. Eustace, which was used extensively as the supply base for smugglers supplying the nascent US. The whole story is documented in Barbara Tuchman's The First Salute.

Seeing as no-one got it in the last two days, I think you should take the next question

 

[Serutan]

What was the greatest single factor in Cortez' defeat of the Aztecs?

 

[pawpaw]

horses and the legend of the returning god ( quetzalcoatl returning that very year ) that keep the montezuma in check till it was almost to late

 

[Serutan]

The Aztecs handily defeated the army that Cortez had put together. Something else happened that made them easy
prey...

 

[Pangur Bán]

Originally posted by Serutan
What was the greatest single factor in Cortez' defeat of the Aztecs?

You need to ask a different question, Serutan. Sorry, the answer to that question could only ever be opinion, not fact.

Originally posted by Serutan
The Aztecs handily defeated the army that Cortez had put together.

Not really. The worst they ever did was to force Cortez to flee Mexico! "Handily defeated" is a grotesque exaggeration and distortion of facts.

 

[pawpaw]

later on i believe they caught small pox

 

[Serutan]

Yes, that is what I was thinking of. Your question pawpaw.

Originally posted by calgacus


You need to ask a different question, Serutan. Sorry, the answer to that question could only ever be opinion, not fact.

Sorry, but I don't consider a smallpox epidemic that killed large numbers of Aztecs to be an opinion.

Originally posted by calgacus

Not really. The worst they ever did was to force Cortez to flee Mexico! "Handily defeated" is a grotesque exaggeration and distortion of facts.

You seem to sabotage your own argument here. Being forced to flee Mexico doesn't seem to me to constitute a minor setback.
I will concede that "handily" may have put it too strongly, but it was still a major defeat for Cortez, and therefore to use the term "grotesque" was overstatement on your part.

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[Pangur Bán]

Originally posted by Serutan
Yes, that is what I was thinking of. Your question pawpaw.


Sorry, but I don't consider a smallpox epidemic that killed large numbers of Aztecs to be an opinion.

Your annoying me now. It's not the epidemic that's the opiniopn, it's the epidemic as "the greatest single factor". That, my friend, is not a fact. Merely your opinion. Ask another question!

 

[pawpaw]

don't ask another, i won

 

[Pangur Bán]

Originally posted by pawpaw
don't ask another, i won

Actually pawpaw. Let's have fun.

Why don't you ask: "what was the most important cause of the fall of Rome" OR "Why was there a Great War between 1914 and 1918"


Personally, I think Serutan's answer is nonsense. But that's irrelevant. You can't ask questions like that, it turns the thread into a farce! These questions concern historical causation. Books are written about them, but no conclusions can ever be factual.

Getting this kind of question correct consists of guess the askers's mind, not having knowledge. This is a historical quiz; not a psychic one!

I don't mind you getting the next question pawpaw, but I do mind you getting it for that reason.

 

[pawpaw]

what was the cause of romes fall--just kidding, actually i don't have a question so if you want to ask go ahead, if not i'll think one up

 

[pawpaw]

name the 3 "founders" of rome

 

[Mark Young]

Romulus and Remus but I dont know of a 3rd, Was is a women or the wolf that nursed RnR

 

[pawpaw]

founders is in " " you are taking it to liturally- there is a 1st founder, 2nd founder and 3rd

 

[PolishAssassin]

caesar??

 

[jack merchant]

Gaius Marius is one, but the other two beat me - Lucius Iunius Brutus and Scipio Africanus maybe ?

 

[Pangur Bán]

If Marius is one, then Romulus and Augustus are the other two!

But Augustus's is frequently referred to as the "2nd founder of Rome", not the third. So, if it has to be someone post-Augustus, then I would guess Constantine.