HJ1: You can take the civ out of Arabia...

[hoplitejoe]

 

[ilduce349]

The circled Whale, how far away is it from land?

 

[hoplitejoe]

can you not look at the save yourself?

 

[ilduce349]

I don't have RFCE yet, given that my internet is really slow right now I am waiting till Monday to download it. So not really.

 

[Optical]

There's a coastal sea tile between the grassland 'peninsula' (the only place it can be in a BFC) and the whale.

 

[Red_Spy]

HJ, since I can not actually do participate in actually playing the game, can I be here for stragety discussion?

 

[SouthernKing]

subbed

 

[Yoshiegg737]

And I guess I'm playing after Civ'ed then

 

[Civ'ed]

Indeed.
should I play now since this is the last day before next week when I can't play.

 

[Optical]

Play now if you can - if not, ask HJ.

 

[hoplitejoe]

Red_spy your quite welcome to stay and help us
Civ'ed you can play if you think you know what your doing.

 

[Civ'ed]

Sure! Just a mo, ten turns coming right up!
0: I decide to go for HJ's city placement. So I send an islamic missionary, archer and settler to the two points marked on the map, leaving us with an archer, an islamic missionary, and two axemen. I decide to group the axemen together, but further it's a wait.
1: I found Isbilya and Al-Garnata, set both to constructing a courthouse. Research is going to be farriers to get Berber Cavalry.
2: Toledo, Valencia and Tangier flip and we meet the pope. I decide to go for peace and trade manorialism for architecture. I think our leftover archer is going to Isbilya and the missionary to Toledo, to give Isabella a few headaches when she spawns. I switch civic to manorialism.
3: Toledo, Valencia and Tangiers's borders expand, connecting our cities, and Toledo is a 3-way religious city (catholics, jews, muslims)
4: Toledo starts work on an Islamic missionary, Valencia on a Noria, Tangier on a manor house.
5: Nothing
6: Open borders with Arabia, Iron online
7: Nothing
8: Pope tells us to become catholic, declinced.
9: Copper online
10: Nothing

Our axemen, I placed them at the border with Barcelona. I decided against attacking them.
Any comments?

 

[ilduce349]

why courthouses? There only useful when you have lots of cities not just 1 or 2...

 

[hoplitejoe]

Our axemen, I placed them at the border with Barcelona. I decided against attacking them.
Any comments?

just looked at the save, nicely played. IIRC Barcelona is defended by 1 or 2 archers so it may be best to wait till we have the Berber's before we attack if any workers get in range to get stolen though feel free to DoW take the worker and have a look at there defence from there you can decide whether to chance your luck.
About building court houses, it may be worth either swapping to workers when things reach size 2 or starting to build a barracks, work boats would be useful as well although the improvements do tend to get razed by barbs. we will also need a worker in north Africa soonish.
one other thing to do is to try and get a tech trade with the pope before he hates us to much as the pope is more or less not in the game and any advantage given to him really doesn't matter.

Yoshi your up now.

 

[Civ'ed]

Because we have more than 2 cities a) and because no matter what, we're in the red, and that's why.

 

[Yoshiegg737]

Downloading RFCE right now. I've never played it before so I won't know of any future civ's popping up

 

[Red_Spy]

Civ'ed, or Yoshi when your done, can you post a map?

 

[hoplitejoe]

Spain will be coming in 911 (i think) and Portugal around 1100.
As long as we can get around 3 or 4 troops by then Spain should die easily, for Portugal it just would be a bad idea to settle in there area but they pose no immediate threat.

 

[Yoshiegg737]

Turn 0: I steal 20 gold from Arabia. Well...he gave it to me for free.

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Turn 1: The borders of Al-Garnata have expanded!

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Turn 2: Nothing at all
Turn 3: Again, nothing
Turn 4: Capital grows to size 2
Turn 5: Islam is spread in this city as we charge into the Independent Lands

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Turn 6: The Axemen close in on an nearly undefended Barcino

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Turn 7: The city is captured

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Turn 8: Nothing
Turn 9: Attempts to get free silk from Arabia fails
Turn 10: We get another worker

And a bird's eye view:

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[Yoshiegg737]

Spain will be coming in 911 (i think) and Portugal around 1100.
As long as we can get around 3 or 4 troops by then Spain should die easily, for Portugal it just would be a bad idea to settle in there area but they pose no immediate threat.

I will make friends with Portugal

Also, pictures were added in the update, since people like pictures