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HOF Questions and Answers Thread

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Hall of Fame Discussion' started by Methos, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. drewisfat

    drewisfat King

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    Thanks for all the answers, and I'm glad it may have helped others. Can't believe I didn't think of just opening a save with settings and regenerating map from there! The size file is a good trick for land. I had been tracking it through MF by running civ in windowed mode and keeping mouse over the civ name. It actually repopulates the land each time it regenerates, but only in windowed mode for some reason. I'm hoping the reason my long attempts failed was that my screen was set to turn off after 1 hour.

    And don't feel bad lymond. I would have been more persistent if I cared, but I like winning on hard maps, not doing amazing on perfect maps. I'm learning just how crazy you have to be to grind goody hut and worker steal luck :X
     
  2. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    Aye. This is why I haven't cared as much for HoF gaming as I did in the past.
     
  3. Noble Zarkon

    Noble Zarkon Elite Quattromaster - Emperor (BTS) Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    No I'm still puzzling, Denniz was a SQL whizz and it take sme a lot of time to figure out how he does some of the complex stuff.

    Initially all you would see is a different layout, hopefully more mobile friendly! I do want to develop the profile page. Any requests??

    That would be cool, will add it to the list!!
     
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  4. lymond

    lymond Rise Up! (Phoenix Style!) Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Yeah, haven't used MF much in years, but what I do is create a "template" save as Noble suggested, and then regen some maps from that with ALT+G until I find a few I like, and save them. I can repeat it later with the same template, if I want some more starts. MF great if you want to automatically roll up some very specific conditions without thinking about it, but manually I can usually get a few decent starts in short time.
     
  5. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    More mobile friendly would be nice, although it's not terrible currently either. Little tricky to zoom in on some of the tables, but usually okay.

    A nicer layout of the profile page would be nice. I don't happen to have hundreds of games in there, but for those that do, it would probably be nice with some way to filter or sort games. If possible, a way to sort by columns (like in Excel) maybe? (that may not be possible). Or something like the main HoF tables, where we can sort or filter by different criteria. And a link to the actual game (like this, for a random entry).

    Slightly different, but also think it would be cool with some type of overview of our best games/dates. Like our fastest domination game (maybe by game speed) or best scores. Maybe some type of overview, with how many #1 we have, and how many of those (or in general) are for space colony, conquest, etc. Can maybe pull in some of the player stats too.

    Just some thoughts off the top of my head :)
     
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  6. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    I do the same. When going with very specific settings, like Marathon with a million pre-selected leaders, it takes a while to set it up correctly again. Therefore I save the game when it has been set up correctly, so I can go back to it if MF crashes early, like you get that defeated message after 3 maps or something. Or if I happen to not get a good amount of maps, so need to change the rules.

    Then it's as easy as loading that save, and hitting the 3-4 buttons for regenerating with MapFinder. Then do something else for a few hours, and maybe restart the whole process in case MF has slowed to a halt.
     
  7. Noble Zarkon

    Noble Zarkon Elite Quattromaster - Emperor (BTS) Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    I plan to incorporate DataTables.
     
  8. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    Cool. That looked great :thumbsup:
     
  9. Anysense

    Anysense Emperor

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    It does not. Apparently going to main menu and starting another game or loading a save file is the only way.

    Am I correct in thinking that one can use any save that allows map regeneration as a template?
     
  10. SittinDown

    SittinDown King Supporter

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    I'm pretty good with SQL and would be happy to help.
     
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  11. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    I got wondering if there is a way to filter by for example OCC space games?
     
  12. krikav

    krikav Theorycrafter

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    It's astonashing how many different colors of crazy there are amongst civ players.
    I thought I where plenty of crazy with my enjoyment of food deprived tundra isolation maps..
    But yeah, getting that perfect play on that perfect map requires that extra helping of crazyness.
     
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  13. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    Very much agree with that. I've also learnt that I really don't like that kind of gameplay. It also nurtures professionalism, which is probably not the best thing. Easy to get into the mindset of "everything has to be perfect" and if a small thing isn't, then you feel like you have to throw out the game, because some other nutter will get 4 settlers from huts, or AH, BW and IW from huts.

    Probably not a good thing to write here, so sorry for that. I oftentimes wish I knew about/played this game when it came out, instead of now when there are so many exploits in use all over the place.

    It's kind of similar to what a friend tells me about WoW these days. Everything is down to a science, so unless you pick a certain class with a very specific set of gear, you can't even join proper groups. It removes some of the fun for me, quite bluntly.
     
  14. Anysense

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    You don't need everything to be perfect, unless you are aiming at something completely ridiculous, like BC Deity Space, for instance. Some of my best games were played with just floodplains for food in my core cities (not just in the capital) or with other serious disadvantages.

    Besides, there all sorts of luck that can save even apparently hopless game.
    Spoiler :
    I was a bit worried when De Gaulle settled that city up north with a hammer on a grassland; thought he might have stolen my iron until.. Riverside BFC iron? Seriously?
    Civ4ScreenShot0064.JPG
     
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  15. drewisfat

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    Oh it's definitely the place to write that ^^ but yes it's a little late. I too didn't even lurk the forums til the game had been out for years. Digging into the HoF is disorienting. My reaction to things like QScore, EQM status is that of a Protestant finding out that Catholics are very serious about 'saints'.
     
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  16. Anysense

    Anysense Emperor

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    Random events can be game-changing too. I had realy good ones in current game.
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    Free cover for all melee units, including praetorians.
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    This is getting ridiculous! Note that both promotions are given to every new unit as well.
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  17. Pangaea

    Pangaea Rock N Roller

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    Wow, that is crazy! :D Looks like the game will be over soon enough, but those are some fantastic promos out of the game, especially on praetorians -- who are already OP without any promos. Excellent if you meet longbows with them.

    Then there are the free golden ages too. Never gotten them myself, but I know the experts like Seraiel and WT talked about them.

    Do you keep those promos when the units are upgraded btw? I suppose you probably do, since they are then "attached" to the units, and not inherent like with some UU. Not much wrong with CR3-Cover Rifles ;)
     
  18. Anysense

    Anysense Emperor

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    Yeah, the map is a bit small (small B&S), still very handy. It would be fantastic to have such events on large/huge, if I ever get around to playing larger maps. I think it would have even greater effect than free GA.
     
  19. Kaitzilla

    Kaitzilla Lord Croissant

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    Wow, free Cover + City Raider I for all Praets is really good Anysense! :D


    In my current space race record attempt, I got a free golden age during my golden age.
    Spoiler :

    Some WastinTime luck pops up once and a while.

    Even though I DOW'd and invaded, Joao must have attacked one of my units on my plot at some point? :hmm:
    https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/golden-age-event-best-ever.311484/#post-7802312

    Not really sure how it happened.
    https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/marathon-runner-golden-age.295774/
     
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  20. WastinTime

    WastinTime Deity Supporter

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    I got that once. If you know the triggers, you can almost make it happen. That's the strategic thing about events. You have to set up the pre-requisites. It's doesn't take that much luck if the AI is not set up to get the event before you. Example: early Gunpowder means you're the only one that can roll 'Guns/Butter' event.
     
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