How is your EU3 Game going?

[Optical]

Nah, they've been independent the whole game. I would have done that - after all, it's how I got Friesland - but since it's not a possibility, it ain't happening.

No vassalisation or conquest missions inside the HRE besides the unique ones IIRC either, so it's either wait for Claims on our Rivals (or Boundary Dispute? Not sure if you can get that on OPMs) or knock them out while I can - I guess I'll just have to go for a quick annexation & a white peace with Austria-Aragon-Scotland (please don't ask).

 

[Antilogic]

Nah, they've been independent the whole game. I would have done that - after all, it's how I got Friesland - but since it's not a possibility, it ain't happening.

No vassalisation or conquest missions inside the HRE besides the unique ones IIRC either, so it's either wait for Claims on our Rivals (or Boundary Dispute? Not sure if you can get that on OPMs) or knock them out while I can - I guess I'll just have to go for a quick annexation & a white peace with Austria-Aragon-Scotland (please don't ask).

That sucks, looks like it's going to have to be the hard way.

I think I have gotten Boundary Disputes on OPMs before, a quick look at the wiki doesn't mention OPMs one way or another. So that might work, but I wouldn't want to sit around waiting for random chance to form my Union state.

Nationalism CBs will be coming along in another century or two, if you don't mind waiting.

 

[Optical]

Nationalism CBs? True. If they convert to Prot or Reformed I could always take Unam Sanctam at Gov 17 (not too far away!) and use that. I'd rather be fighting Burgundy than France, though, so any option would have to be viable in the next 70 or so years. Probably going to take 8 infamy if Utrecht don't go Prot.

 

[Duke of Britain]

This is gold

 

[Optical]

ikr? It'd be even better if he added the Big Blue Blob too, though

 

[SouthernKing]

Or, in the case of D&T, Troland

 

[Duke of Britain]

Please, support that :
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?600096-Request-Monarchies-and-Stat-9-Rulers
With enough people posting we'll have more of a chance to ensure that Paradox will fix that, and a true balancing between govenrments taking place

 

[Antilogic]

Please, support that :
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?600096-Request-Monarchies-and-Stat-9-Rulers
With enough people posting we'll have more of a chance to ensure that Paradox will fix that, and a true balancing between govenrments taking place

Stat-9 rulers?

Can you tell us what's going on, for those of us without Paradox forum accounts?

 

[Duke of Britain]

It's a suggestion on the beta-patch forum to remove the restriction on the limit of Monarch stats, atm unless you get an event you can only get heirs with 8 max at his stats...
In short, republics can get 9s, Monarchies can only get 8s.

 

[Antilogic]

It's a suggestion on the beta-patch forum to remove the restriction on the limit of Monarch stats, atm unless you get an event you can only get heirs with 8 max at his stats...
In short, republics can get 9s, Monarchies can only get 8s.

I could have sworn I got a 4-6-9 monarch at some point. Not in my two current DW games, though. Might have been in a prior version or a mod.

 

[Duke of Britain]

I could have sworn I got a 4-6-9 monarch at some point. Not in my two current DW games, though. Might have been in a prior version or a mod.

Either an old EUIII version (i don't remember if this limit always existed) or an event fired for you.

Once as the byzantines i had no heir, then Moldavia got the "Take that, von Habsburgs" event and i got something like a 9/8/9...

 

[Truronian]

Pretty well.

Spoiler :

I got lucky with the Claims on Your Rivals event which allowed me to form the Netherlands in about 1430. Brabant was then invaded and Gelre diplo-annexed leaving me with enough land to match Burgundy's army without a crazy army bill. Just peaced out and took all my cores (plus Ghent for the same of pretty borders) when the screenshot was taken. I'm also head of the HRE after Bohemia and Austria decided to have who can get the most infamy competition.

Shortly after this screenshot was taken Burgundy imploded and were left with only Alsace and Bourgogne with the rest going to peasant-stricken France and newly formed Limousin. I'm now kind of twidling thumbs for a few years until Brazil comes into colonisation range and my North Atlantic islands core.

 

[Antilogic]

I take it France recovered from their state of revolt in the screenshot. I'm amazed the low countries have the Imperial Crown.

Naples looks like it is doing well too--I usually see them peak at a little less territory in Greece before imploding.

 

[Truronian]

I take it France recovered from their state of revolt in the screenshot. I'm amazed the low countries have the Imperial Crown.

Things got a little dicier for them; Toulouse and Provence broke free. France waited about a year or so before stomping out those two interlopers as well as the remnants of Burgundy. It's now doing its usual vassal munch; I expect it to be a major power again in about twenty years.

Naples looks like it is doing well too--I usually see them peak at a little less territory in Greece before imploding.

Yeah, and they've absorbed Tuscany since that that screenshot leaving them two provinces (and 50 years of coring) shy of being able form Italy. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.

 

[Antilogic]

Things got a little dicier for them; Toulouse and Provence broke free. France waited about a year or so before stomping out those two interlopers as well as the remnants of Burgundy. It's now doing its usual vassal munch; I expect it to be a major power again in about twenty years.



Yeah, and they've absorbed Tuscany since that that screenshot leaving them two provinces (and 50 years of coring) shy of being able form Italy. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.

Sounds typical for the French.

Is Rome no longer required to form Italy?

 

[Truronian]

Forgot about Rome... no wonder I never see AI Italy. I guess there's a chance Naples will go Protestant. And somehow survive. And then take Rome. And somehow survive. Maybe.

 

[uat2d]

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Typical...

Pretty well.

Spoiler :

I wonder how you got the Azores before Portugal and the Canaries before Portugal / Castile. Though if Madeira is still a colony, it will do you immense good if you seize it and prevent Portugal from entering the new world any time soon.

And Castile is just doing his thing in Africa, if they collapse or get too focused on it, see that you grab Gibraltar, it gives a nice modifier to trade tech IIRC.

 

[Tee Kay]

I wonder how you got the Azores before Portugal and the Canaries before Portugal / Castile. Though if Madeira is still a colony, it will do you immense good if you seize it and prevent Portugal from entering the new world any time soon.

Won't work. Portugal and Castile actually don't need to control the Azores/Madeira or the Canaries to colonise the Caribbean islands even before 1500, and either of them can simply annex the Missisippians or the Mesoamericans.

 

[uat2d]

Won't work. Portugal and Castile actually don't need to control the Azores/Madeira or the Canaries to colonise the Caribbean islands even before 1500, and either of them can simply annex the Missisippians or the Mesoamericans.

That's why he shouldn't make life easier for them and beat them to the Caribbeans and Brazil while kicking the natives before they do. It's actually quite simple, Portugal doesn't have a good military and Castile is often busy in Northern Africa, and if he gets France to help him, then that will be just too easy, leaving only decent competition from England for quite some time.

Monopolizing the new world can indeed be a difficult task, specially against the Iberians, but the maps just looks that much better if there's a single color there. Oh, and it makes things that much easier on the long run!

Just don't forget to build a great navy to keep the rest of Europe and the pirates from being able to hassle you back.

 

[Truronian]

I could control the New World if I wanted too, but I have a feeling that would make for a dull game. I'm already pretty much the number one world power because of my trade wealth and HRE emperor-ship, and I've always ended up quitting early in previous games because there wasn't any challenge left. I'm currently planning on colonising a few key locations around the world and joining them up with naval stronghold islands. I'm also going to go reformed when that pops up (no matter the cost politically and domestically) and seeing if I can survive the ensuing chaos.