How is your EU3 Game going?

[Civ'ed]

Cool, yeah, IDK how they were before, but I like them now so I'm quite happy! I haven't upgraded to DW yet partially because I love the game so much as is I'm afraid it may make it less enjoyable for me. That and I'm still in an epic game I'm playing at incredibly slow speed.

I'm not sure there's a Rising Nations mod for DW yet, but you should try it! It extends the timeline to 9999 AD - plenty of time to conquer the world!
It also adds new OPMs as making Vatican (pope) one by splitting Roma province, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Andorra, Monaco and two georgian ones. It also turns all wasteland into useable provinces sized to 2010 countries, and a whole new batch of historical dates like WWI & II, Cold War, Korean/Vietnam War, Iraq war. Plus some new governments and units!

 

[NedimNapoleon]

CAN YOU UPLOAD IT, when I start downloading it, i downloads about 20 MB and the connection breaks

 

[Civ'ed]

CAN YOU UPLOAD IT, when I start downloading it, i downloads about 20 MB and the connection breaks

I can, I have the problem with MEIOU

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Thanks

 

[Arakhor]

9999 AD is kind of pointless. Even it goes right up to modern times, 2050 is a more than good enough date upon which to end.

 

[Civ'ed]

9999 AD is kind of pointless. Even it goes right up to modern times, 2050 is a more than good enough date upon which to end.

Idk why they actually went up to 9999 either. Most people think it's the end of the world a few thousand years earlier.
It lengthens the timeline for 8178 - maybe a Ryukyu conquest is more likely?
anyway, sieges in that mod are DAMN HARD. I tried a level 2 fort (Luxembourg) with 10,000 third reich soldiers (1933 start). They all died. Luxembourg mopped them up afterwards.

 

[Civ'ed]

On lighter notes, I have an awesome game as Tuscany (normal version).
I managed to unify south Italy under a Lombard banner (south italy is the area from Ferrara/Modena to Messina in this game)
I'll post pics later
The rebels are killing me and my sole 49 regiment army isn't good enough.
I have a seriously awesome king after a 4-year regency, and he already has a 7-year old boy. He's 8/6/8.
I also have to wait until 1458 to form italy (since Roma will core at that point.)
I fabricated claims on various nations to beat them up with a warning label.
Also, The pope has popped up in Utrecht - Utrecht owns a German province
Ukraine appeared, left and appeared again.
The world is going mad

 

[bestrfcplayer]

I downloaded Rise of Nations, but I can't seem to get it to play (btw, I downloaded the IN 3.1 compatible one)

 

[thelastmccabe]

I tried to get into EU III (plus some of the expansions, don't remember which ones), but I couldn't really do it. I even read the manual cover to cover before I started playing. I think the biggest thing that turned me off was how I have to endlessly chase enemy armies around the map to destroy them--it's extremely tedious. For example, I started a game with France, and right at the beginning I changed one of my slider settings, which caused a peasant revolt. So I sent some troops to fight the peasant army and defeated them, but I then had to just stare at the screen to see each province they would go to next, then send my army there, defeat them again, then chase them again...and repeat like 20 times until the enemy army finally is destroyed.

Now I'm cool with their army not just disappearing after one defeat, but I just couldn't believe how tedious it was to have to do this chasing thing every time I fight a battle with anyone. It's possible that it's realistic (beats me), but I don't really care if it's realistic if it's not interesting or fun. That, along with a lot of other little annoyances (interface is pretty clunky; it's really hard to track your relations and what's going on with all the different countries), sort of turned me off to the game.

I've sort of found as I've gotten older (not that I'm old; I'm 27) that I'm much, much less patient with games, and I'm just not going to put up with much annoyance in order to try to derive enjoyment out of them. I feel like I'm missing out though because a lot of people seem to absolutely love these games.

Incidentally, I put even more time into trying to learn to play and enjoy HOI2 and gave that up as well. The sheer tedium of it just got to me. I guess this sort of game just isn't for me anymore.

But I'm glad you all enjoy them.

 

[Maniacal]

I tried to get into EU III (plus some of the expansions, don't remember which ones), but I couldn't really do it. I even read the manual cover to cover before I started playing. I think the biggest thing that turned me off was how I have to endlessly chase enemy armies around the map to destroy them--it's extremely tedious. For example, I started a game with France, and right at the beginning I changed one of my slider settings, which caused a peasant revolt. So I sent some troops to fight the peasant army and defeated them, but I then had to just stare at the screen to see each province they would go to next, then send my army there, defeat them again, then chase them again...and repeat like 20 times until the enemy army finally is destroyed.

Ping ponging armies has been fixed, they rarely do that anymore and to a much lesser extent.

(interface is pretty clunky; it's really hard to track your relations and what's going on with all the different countries),

Its easier now.

 

[JohnnyW]

I tried to get into EU III (plus some of the expansions, don't remember which ones),

You should figure out which version because I've heard (IIRC) that has been decreased with both HTTT and DW. It still happens, but if you have a superior number of units it happens far less frequently.

 

[Racsoviale]

Thelastmccabe: In my experience the rebel problems gets bigger, as you get bigger. There are all kinds of rebels and most can be dealt with by addressing the issue instead of the symptoms(to use a medical term)
Religious revolt can be averted by converting provinces or state religion, nationalist/patriot revolts can to some extend be dealt with with promoting cultural unity(HttT) and having only your own culture in you territory also prevents too many rebellions.
the important slider moves also tend to come with revolts, especially the all important centralization move, most people do in the beginning. I have begun to wait doing that moves until I have a bigger army that what I start with.
Low stability and war weariness also makes revolts more likely, and not being a monarchy averts pretender rebels(?)
I like the mechanic behind revolts, but hate it when I'm swarmed by them, but in the end most revolts are due to your own actions and in that way I like how they work. dont like religous revolts? dont conquor provinces with other religions. Don't like patriot/nationalist revolts only conquor privinces you have a core on. And so forth. Are rebels spinging up every month? check your War Weariness and take a break from the warmongering to let it drop down.

I know I can't convince you to play this game if you feel that it is not your type of game, but I hope I can help explain the idea behind revolts.

 

[Civ'ed]

For example, I started a game with France, and right at the beginning I changed one of my slider settings, which caused a peasant revolt.

Peasants are not supposed to run around, if they flee they should go away.

 

[thelastmccabe]

Thanks for all the responses.

To Racsoviale: Thanks for explaining the mechanic behind the revolts. I assumed that was how it worked, and I don't have a problem the mechanic on its own. I just object to the extreme level of "ping ponging" (that's a very good description of it).

Peasants are not supposed to run around, if they flee they should go away.

In that case, I guess it must not have been a peasant revolt. This was a few months ago, so my memory of it is pretty hazy.

You should figure out which version because I've heard (IIRC) that has been decreased with both HTTT and DW

It looks like I have In Nomine. So maybe once I finish some other games I'm playing I'll pick up HTTT and/or DW and give it another try.

 

[chegel]

One option is to go to
...\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis III\common\rebel_types.txt
and change the line
resilient = yes
to
resilient = no
for every rebel type. This way, all rebel units will disband after their first lost battle.

 

[NBAfan]

Thanks for all the responses.

To Racsoviale: Thanks for explaining the mechanic behind the revolts. I assumed that was how it worked, and I don't have a problem the mechanic on its own. I just object to the extreme level of "ping ponging" (that's a very good description of it).



In that case, I guess it must not have been a peasant revolt. This was a few months ago, so my memory of it is pretty hazy.



It looks like I have In Nomine. So maybe once I finish some other games I'm playing I'll pick up HTTT and/or DW and give it another try.

The ping-pong is much better in HTTT/DW.

 

[aukrest]

Ok, so now I have an empire to share with everyone. First an explanation. I am playing as Ukraine, but the game started in 1399 as my friend's game starting as Sweden. Ukraine revolted from Lithuania (as a tribal despotism) and completely annexed Lithuania. At 1476 my friend gave up on the game and so I looked at it and decided to play as Ukraine (it was alot weaker then). Allied with Muscovy and Teutonic Order, had Polotsk as a vassal. Myself and Muscovy defeated the Horde and Zaporozhie revolted and took them all over. It's currently 1579. I have HTTT

My current ruler has been ruling for 20+ years and it sucks because his heir is ADM 7, so I can finally reform from a tribal government, but my heir is 39 years old because of how long my ruler has lived, and I think he will die.

Things interesting to note is messed up England, Turkey, the Steppes, Morocco forming an empire, Bulgaria, and Greece revolting in Greece.

 

[JohnnyW]

Wheres the Ottomans? :?

 

[aukrest]

They collapsed after a war with me and Bulgaria and a couple of others. Ramazan revolted and Turkey was controlled by Ramazan before they had a succession crisis and it began splintering. Morocco also joined in the Anatolian fun.

 

[Civ'ed]

greece in greece...
Now THAT'S special, seeing as they somehow always start in Azow.