He's fine, it'll be rebel hell.
How is your EU3 Game going?
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Duke of Britain
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bestrfcplayer
Steppin' up!
I'm thinking I might start a new game as the Byzantines (original, I know). My Russia game stagnated when I reached the Pacific (just before 1600) as none of my rivals posed any threat or challenge. Siberia is ridiculously productive.
sophie
Break My Heart
That kind of stuff happens all the time. If it isn't Scotland it's England.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
So I was redoing Byzantium in the Death & Taxes mod someone suggested and I've conquered almost all of South America but for some reason I can't capture Cuzco. Dunno if that's a mod bug but I'm keeping some soldiers on it until I figure out what's going on.
The Ottoman Empire, 1610. I feel like I've been playing this game forever. Anyway, here's an update:
Two great empires of the 16th century, Austria and Vijayanagar, have both collapsed and reduced to a few provinces; Austria collapsed after getting raped repeatedly by a Russo-Franco-Ottoman alliance, then by Bavaria and Bohemia, and Vijayanagar kinda self-destructed at which point just about every other country in the world declared war on it.
I'm allied with France and Russia, which effectively means the three most powerful empires are allied with each other. Brandenburg (who is HRE), Castile and England can still put up a decent fight though, partly because I'm overextended, partly because Russia is so far away, and partly because France is so unstable. Islam has spread into the New World; at first it was just a few Caribbean islands, I took the rest from Castile after destroying their navy.
It's almost 1650 and I still have a lot of India and Europe to go conquer.
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Two great empires of the 16th century, Austria and Vijayanagar, have both collapsed and reduced to a few provinces; Austria collapsed after getting raped repeatedly by a Russo-Franco-Ottoman alliance, then by Bavaria and Bohemia, and Vijayanagar kinda self-destructed at which point just about every other country in the world declared war on it.
I'm allied with France and Russia, which effectively means the three most powerful empires are allied with each other. Brandenburg (who is HRE), Castile and England can still put up a decent fight though, partly because I'm overextended, partly because Russia is so far away, and partly because France is so unstable. Islam has spread into the New World; at first it was just a few Caribbean islands, I took the rest from Castile after destroying their navy.
It's almost 1650 and I still have a lot of India and Europe to go conquer.
Civ'ed
I ain't gotta explain a thing
Best part about that game? NO BYZZIES.
Actually...
Byzantium still survives, on Corfu. It revolted from someone, Naples I think.
I keep them around because Corfu is poor and not really worth taking. Also, once you become really powerful you don't want to kill off your nemesis; you want to keep them alive so they can look at your glorious empire and weep.
Civ'ed
I ain't gotta explain a thing
Actually...
Byzantium still survives, on Corfu.
I keep them around because Corfu is poor and not really worth taking. Also, once you become really powerful you don't want to kill off your nemesis; you want to keep them alive so they can look at your glorious empire and weep.
GRRRR.
Just kill 'em. Kill 'em now.
Vassalize them.
Infamy cost is better spent annexing richer provinces. And I need to annex as much as possible before 1650.
Duke of Britain
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Civ'ed you're a traitor!
YOU SHOULD BE HANGED FOR THAT!
YOU SHOULD BE HANGED FOR THAT!
Civ'ed
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Civ'ed you're a traitor!
YOU SHOULD BE HANGED FOR THAT!
[rant]NO. NO I AM NOT. ALL I AM IS COMPLETELY FED UP WITH BYZZIES.
Seriously, is that all you guys play? [/rant]
Who did you start as? Before HTTT, I tried as a Novgorod -> Russia as a republic, and I'm playing a Muscovy game (around 1450) alongside my Burgundy game (around 1640). I haven't gotten to form Russia yet, but I've vassalized or annexed the Russian minors, got Smolensk from the Lithuanians, and have been fighting back the Golden Horde and its successor states.
England and France are particularly guilty of snapping up random territories across the map of Europe. At least Castille/Spain tends to take territory in clumps (North Africa). In my Burgundy game, England inherited a large but land-locked Lithuania, and it promptly fell apart into four minor states with random English exclaves. It's a mess.
You'd hate me: although Constantinopolis fell around 1440, I forced a massive Bohemia to release the Byzantines around 1630. They have about 6 or 7 provinces centered around their new capital of Athens (actually looks a lot like Greece in the 1830s).
I would have loved it if there was some event or decision that changes the name and cores to Greece, since this new Reformed state is nothing like the old empire. But what can you do? (If you guys have any code that does this, I'd love to see it!)
Racsoviale
Smoke me a kipper!
In my experience Smolensk and Mogilov(?) are usually the hardest parts of getting when aiming for forming Russia, Lithuania is a beast for poor little Muscovy(or Novgorod I suppose but have never played them).
Fighting the horde takes some tries to getting used to but then it becomes easier, especially when you realize how effective Scorch earth is, and how small siege armies contra huge doomstacks are what makes or breaks your warscore which are the most important part against the horde.
And aiming for a 100% warscore in the first few wars against the horde is a bad idea in my opinion. Taking a few territories and making them release vassals/cores/allies have been how I dismantled them and it seemed to make it much easier than if I had waited for capturing all their provinces in the first war and then negotiated for peace.
I wish I had this advice when I started. I ended up getting lucky--Lithuania lost Smolensk and a neighboring province (I think Bryansk or something like that) to the Golden Horde, and then I settled them during the war. It was a pretty sweet move, and it saved me a headache against the Lithuanians.
I started fighting the Horde with the classic EU3 decisive battle theory--fight the stack, preferably on defense to get some bonus, then ping-pong it until extinction. Problem is, the Horde has tons of troops, so you need to win several decisive battles while conserving manpower. I had to concede defeat twice to the Horde simply because I ran out manpower, but only stealing a province or two by settling. I minted, took the Liberium Veto, and built troops like crazy between the wars. I was usually at least 10 units over my army cap.
I picked up on the scorched earth tactics in my third war, I think. Also, my manpower max increased from around 18k to something like 25-30k, so attrition didn't hurt me as much. I never forced them to release other nations, but that would have been a solid idea instead of waiting for them to succumb to rebels.
The Golden Horde only has a few provinces left and they don't border me. One of the successors was kind of fearsome, but I'm more than able to pin them down with about 15,000 troops in the east. Right now, my goal is to whack Novgorod. I have roughly 35,000 ready to march with a small reserve to handle rebels. Once that goal is complete, all I have to do is wait for cores and then I'll form Russia.
sophie
Break My Heart
Haha, that is so not true. In my experience it's Castille who's the worst.
