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Yeah the map is screwed up. Guess who will be my adversary when those freaking western douches will come to the eastern indies?
How is your EU3 Game going?
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pevergreen
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Byzantine, attempting to recreate Roman Empire. Year is 1406
Something I have an issue with. I took the Ottomans on, I had every single province and all of their vassal's provinces, yet I couldn't annex them. D:
So I took the stuff in greece and I'll take the rest later.
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They need to own only one province.
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But they did, at least I thought so.
I had stripes in every province they had, plus in all their vassals.
I had stripes in every province they had, plus in all their vassals.
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No, they need to have only one province. You need to take as many provinces as you can until they have their capital left. Then you can annex them.
You can only annex a non-pagan nation if they own one province.
You can occupy their entire country but you'd only be able to demand to own a limited number of provinces in the peace deal. Basically you need to keep attacking them to reduce them down to one province, then you annex.
You can occupy their entire country but you'd only be able to demand to own a limited number of provinces in the peace deal. Basically you need to keep attacking them to reduce them down to one province, then you annex.
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I once edited my game so Orthodox nations could be annexed as if they were pagan.
...It had weird effects, such as Sicily or somebody seizing Morea like it was a colony during some great Western war upon Byzantium...
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Imagine how easy russia would fall.
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Boy is france not in big trouble?
And remake, that would totally mess up the ai.
And remake, that would totally mess up the ai.
Arrrrrrrrg! It seems as though every game I start that looks promising always ends up getting ruined! I mean, I started a game as Muscovy (I've never done Eastern Europe before), and I was of course, doing what I normally do; conquering the small states around me and forming alliances. And in doing so I've created a medium size state. Though, for some strange reason, right after my war with Ryazan and Novgorod, Lithuania cancels their alliance with me (my only alliance); and then decides to go on a rampage. Now they're a massive beast of an empire, and for some strange reason they hate me (and have warned me). In the outcome of the war with Novgorod and Ryazan, those two formed an alliance together. And to top it all off I've been warned by the Golden Horde. So basically, I can't start a war without getting dog-piled by everyone surrounding me. What should I do???
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I guess you'll just have to guarantee some states and hope God plays the diplomacy cards in your favor... that way, you can sneak right away from that pesky little warning.
The key to break a large "alliance" is to find holes in it, and luckily, EU3 has plenty of technicalities ready to be exploited!Guaranteeing is a nice way to unilaterally form an alliance as well: if you guarantee Ryazan, and they're attacked, you'll be allied with them for the duration of the war, as well as with any of their allies!
...Unless HTTT changed it.
I guess you'll just have to guarantee some states and hope God plays the diplomacy cards in your favor... that way, you can sneak right away from that pesky little warning.
Guaranteeing is a nice way to unilaterally form an alliance as well: if you guarantee Ryazan, and they're attacked, you'll be allied with them for the duration of the war, as well as with any of their allies!
...Unless HTTT changed it.
I don't think you automatically go to war in HTTT if you have guarantee, I think you just get a casus belli, or at least that's what I think... I usually don't guarantee states
Though I will try that! I won't do it to Ryazan though, since they have some delicious cores I want...
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I don't think you automatically go to war in HTTT if you have guarantee, I think you just get a casus belli, or at least that's what I think... I usually don't guarantee states
Though I will try that! I won't do it to Ryazan though, since they have some delicious cores I want...
Damn Paradox can't make up their mind... sometimes a guarantee is an alliance call, other times a casus belli!
But regardless of the exact mechanics, the point remains true. Once you understand the diplomatic mechanisms, exploit all the loopholes in alliances to pick an alliance apart.
Russia, Germany and Austria-Hungary would be very menacing... but if you can attack each of their separate allies... you can dismantle that power bloc with ease. 
Poland seems to be failing quite often in HTTT? In the couple of games I played, they somehow always ended up at war with Bohemia, Lithuania and Austria. That spelled doom for me when I chose them as my friends in my Novgorod game, remembering how powerful they became in earlier versions, at least, in the games I played.
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Well... It's poland.
Damn Paradox can't make up their mind... sometimes a guarantee is an alliance call, other times a casus belli!
But regardless of the exact mechanics, the point remains true. Once you understand the diplomatic mechanisms, exploit all the loopholes in alliances to pick an alliance apart.
I just played a couple hours worth, and I worked myself out of the corner I was in. And it had nothing to do with guarantees (which is actually a call to arms I found out)!
There were two things that helped me out of this mess, 1) A King with stats of 6/7/7 and pure luck.
I of course went a head and didn't waste a second using a king of such great stats. I first hand, went and spammed royal marriages, most of which were successful because of the great diplomacy this guy could pull off. I was also able to secure the alliance of Poland, which would keep the best of Lithuania off my back.
And of course, with this spamming of royal marriages, I got a lot of very good results. I was able to inherit Pomerania, I got Georgia and Austria in a Personal Union under me, and of course I spread my dynasty. Though because I got Austria in a personal union, that means the HRE moved to Poland, which helped me even more.
The luck part of it came in when Lithuania got into a really nasty war with the Ottomans. Because of what vanilla HTTT did to the Ottomans, the beta patch they just released boosted them a crap load. And with that came a very formidable opponent. And for about 15 years, the Ottomans and Lithuania were in this very large back and forth war. And in that time I was able to attack Ryazan without any worries from Lithuania. The Golden Horde also warned me, but since they're always bogged down in revolts, they couldn't do anything to me.
So in those 15 years, I was able to whittle away both Novgorod and Ryazan until now, I basically own both (I still had to take down the last few chunks of Novgorod, but that shouldn't be too hard now). Lithuania ended up loosing the war with the Ottomans, and lost a good chunk of land. I should be able to take them down easily in the future.
And now that Eastern Europe is practically in my possession, my only goals (at least right now) are too form Russia, and to Westernize.
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Roman Empire recreation:
1406:
1407:
1411:
1419:
Don't know how to modify it to show other stuff, but: brown splodge above asia minor = vassal, as is, above greece, the lighter purple, the dark green (that goes northwards) the brown and the two below the brown. Translyvania is next (the creamy colour above greece, surrounded by my vassals on 3 sides
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Ottomans down to their capital, after truce is up, thats gone too.
1406:
Spoiler :
1407:
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1411:
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1419:
Spoiler :
Don't know how to modify it to show other stuff, but: brown splodge above asia minor = vassal, as is, above greece, the lighter purple, the dark green (that goes northwards) the brown and the two below the brown. Translyvania is next (the creamy colour above greece, surrounded by my vassals on 3 sides
)Ottomans down to their capital, after truce is up, thats gone too.
