Political positions are Bourgeois!
how liberal/conservative are you?
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Political positions are Bourgeois!
if its a normal couple. Then they can be entitled to adoption.
but since same sex couples already surrender the right to give birth. They should not be entitled to adoption too. And its not right to place a children under the care of a gay couple.
maybe gay couples make better parents. But will it affect the psychological of the young their brought up ?
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Support for the sake of human rights but personally don't approve of it.
Same as above
Definitely NOT supporting
Supporting.
Supporting. As long as it is within proper guidelines.
Not supporting. Two wrongs do not make a right. Killing a murderer still makes you a murderer.
Supporting.
Mixed feelings. I'm okay with abortion if the mother's life is in danger or the baby has a severe disability, but it should not be allowed in most other circumstances.
Joe Harker
1st in the Premiership!
Your opinion on:
Same sex marriage: Yeah fine with it
Same sex adoption: Fine with it.
Legalizing marijuana: No
Euthanasia: Yes, but requires the person in question consent (ie a family member can't consent it even when the patient can't do that action themselves)
Stem research: Yes
Capital punishment: No
Legalizing Prostitution: Yes
Abortion: Yes, but not beyond 24-28 weeks, unless endanging the life of the mother.
What do you mean by that? If the baby is going to be brain dead, then i can see your point of view, but not if they were able to think for themselves.
Same sex marriage: Yeah fine with it
Same sex adoption: Fine with it.
Legalizing marijuana: No
Euthanasia: Yes, but requires the person in question consent (ie a family member can't consent it even when the patient can't do that action themselves)
Stem research: Yes
Capital punishment: No
Legalizing Prostitution: Yes
Abortion: Yes, but not beyond 24-28 weeks, unless endanging the life of the mother.
What do you mean by that? If the baby is going to be brain dead, then i can see your point of view, but not if they were able to think for themselves.
How about, let me put it this way, if tests during early stages of pregnancy shows that there is a great chance that the baby will have severe physical or mental disability, which means that it will struggle to survive, then I say that would be an acceptable (I said "acceptable". Doesn't mean it is "right") reason to abort.
Joe Harker
1st in the Premiership!
Generally i don't like the fact of aborting just because they have a disability (partly cause i have one!
) but there are cases which you outlined where i think it just about justified, so yes i agree with you on that. 
Rocko_el_loco
Warlord
Same sex marriage: Meh, don't care. Do whatever makes ya happy.
Same sex adoption:No evidence that it affects children in any negative way, so no problem with me
Legalizing marijuana:Undecided
Euthanasia:If you wanna kill yourself, fine by me.
Stem research: Yes, genetic engineering is the future.
Capital punishment:Undecided
Legalizing Prostitution:Yes
Abortion: I'm so pro-choice I'm bordering on anti-life
Same sex adoption:No evidence that it affects children in any negative way, so no problem with me
Legalizing marijuana:Undecided
Euthanasia:If you wanna kill yourself, fine by me.
Stem research: Yes, genetic engineering is the future.
Capital punishment:Undecided
Legalizing Prostitution:Yes
Abortion: I'm so pro-choice I'm bordering on anti-life
West 36
Can count up to 4
Indeed. They must be overthrown, for greater good!
The government never has and never will be able to judge the type of malice. If i shoot bob out of love and billy out of hate, does that make bob less dead? No, Same crime same effect same punishment. Secondly the reason there are tax benefits for married people is because they benefit society. Two gay men people do not benefit society in the same way a man and a woman do.
You have yet to tell me what "right" a straight man has over a gay man. Are you telling me a gay person can't marry a woman? Two gay man cant have children and don't benefit society like a marriage between a man and a woman. And sense when has it been a "right" to get tax benefits?
Why is it when a person who believes in God states his opinion on an issue, he is "forcing his religion on people". I'm simply telling you what i believe. I think its wrong murder, even yourself.
Abortion:Complicated. but in the name of personal freedom, I'm OK with it.
What about the personal freedom of the Baby.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Respond with : supporting, not supporting, undecided
Same sex marriage: Support
Everyone deserves to be treated equally under the law. PERIOD.
Same sex adoption: Support
Responsible same sex couples are better than the forever irresponsible state care system.
Legalizing marijuana: Support
Why alcohol and not this? In fact, decriminalize all drugs. Treat them all just like alcohol.
Euthanasia: Support
People should be allowed the choice to end their life if they so wish.
Stem research: Support
The government ought not to fund such things, though.
Capital punishment: Support
The evidence has to be overwhelming and undeniable, though.
Legalizing Prostitution: Support
None of my business how people make a living. If it were brought out from the underground, it might get safer and the quality might get better. We allow pornography and that is nothing less than prostitution.
Abortion: Support
The issue is too big for government to handle. The amount of power that criminalizing this act would give to the government is just too much. As ugly as the act of aborting a life is and as much as I despise those who involve themselves in it, I don't think the government should be involved.
Same sex marriage: Support
Everyone deserves to be treated equally under the law. PERIOD.
Same sex adoption: Support
Responsible same sex couples are better than the forever irresponsible state care system.
Legalizing marijuana: Support
Why alcohol and not this? In fact, decriminalize all drugs. Treat them all just like alcohol.
Euthanasia: Support
People should be allowed the choice to end their life if they so wish.
Stem research: Support
The government ought not to fund such things, though.
Capital punishment: Support
The evidence has to be overwhelming and undeniable, though.
Legalizing Prostitution: Support
None of my business how people make a living. If it were brought out from the underground, it might get safer and the quality might get better. We allow pornography and that is nothing less than prostitution.
Abortion: Support
The issue is too big for government to handle. The amount of power that criminalizing this act would give to the government is just too much. As ugly as the act of aborting a life is and as much as I despise those who involve themselves in it, I don't think the government should be involved.
Yeah, and lets just stab people in the heart and let God decide who he wants to live. Lets drop nukes on China and let God decide who he wants to live.
I can say ridiculous things that make no sense too!
If you take a person off a machine keeping them alive, God has allowed that person to be on a machine keeping them alive. Your taking the side of a person SUPPORTS euthanasia.
Fugitive Sisyphus
Escape Artist
Same sex marriage:
I don't care. It's not really a civil rights issue, it is what is socially acceptable issue. Ideally the government should stay out of marrying people but that's not going to happen.
Same sex adoption:
If you are able and willing to give a good home to a child you should be able to do so.
Legalizing marijuana:
Certainly. So much energy and money would be saved if we didn't go around prohibiting everything.
Euthanasia:
Yes in cases where a person is in a coma/vegetative state/etc and there is no hope of recovery.
Stem research:
Sure
Capital punishment:
My only problem with it is that it is so expensive. If innocent people are being sentenced to death it is not a problem with capital punishment but a problem with the justice system.
Legalizing Prostitution:
See marijuana.
Abortion:
I am good with present laws. Abortion should be legal but I have a problem with late term abortions.
If someone thinks of any other "hot topic" feel free to chip in.
I also think that it should be mandatory that all people are organ donors(once dead of course).
This list makes me seem very liberal but I have enough "far right" views that it balances it out.
I don't care. It's not really a civil rights issue, it is what is socially acceptable issue. Ideally the government should stay out of marrying people but that's not going to happen.
Same sex adoption:
If you are able and willing to give a good home to a child you should be able to do so.
Legalizing marijuana:
Certainly. So much energy and money would be saved if we didn't go around prohibiting everything.
Euthanasia:
Yes in cases where a person is in a coma/vegetative state/etc and there is no hope of recovery.
Stem research:
Sure
Capital punishment:
My only problem with it is that it is so expensive. If innocent people are being sentenced to death it is not a problem with capital punishment but a problem with the justice system.
Legalizing Prostitution:
See marijuana.
Abortion:
I am good with present laws. Abortion should be legal but I have a problem with late term abortions.
If someone thinks of any other "hot topic" feel free to chip in.
I also think that it should be mandatory that all people are organ donors(once dead of course).
This list makes me seem very liberal but I have enough "far right" views that it balances it out.
MadScotsMan
The Ruler of Cattle
It's MY dead body, so bugger off!
And it seems odd how some people are against the death penalty but they support abortion
It's also weird how most responses to the death penalty seem to be 'support for heinous crimes' Isn't murder itself heinous, or is it only considered really bad in certain cercimstances?
Murder is murder is murder, either for or against the use of capital punishment, none of this on the fence bullcrap.Cu Chulainn
The Unoriginal
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Right so killing someone because you caught them cheating with your wife is exactly the same as premeditated murder? Motive matters.
How?
Well, thats a horrible argument. Lets apply the same logic to Religion! Scientology is the new state religion, no other is allowed. But you're still free because you can be a Scientologist just like everyone else!
No marriage for infertile people then, gotcha.
Again, how so? and prove it.
Wonderful! That's great! I appreciate your input and have taken your opinion under advisement. HOWEVER at the point you go so far as to say that you are OK with the government enforcing your opinion under penalty of law is when I say keep your invisible friend away from my personal decisions. You are free to choose to suffer needlessly, you are not free to make me do the same.
See, this is the complicated part. If you don't have a consciousness you aren't a person. Hard to have personal freedoms if you aren't actually a person, no?
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Of that list I only have doubts against capital punishment.
However, simply saying yes to all others is ridiculous. Most of those items need nuancated statements.
-The right for a woman to control her own body? Fair enouigh, but not when she is 6+ (the exact moment is of course arguable) months pregant, right?
-The human right to end your own painful and proven hopeless life, with professional help? Fair enough, but not without the consult of 2 or 3 professionals.
-The right to use things you like but are bad when consumed without moderation (alcohol, McDonald's food, marihuana). Fair enough, but when something becomes outright toxic (heroin), it's not any good.
-The right to have sex with whomever you want and ask money for it? Fair enough, but abuse or slave trade should be banned.
Whe it comes to gay rights, I have a stronger opinion. I fully grant people's right to dislike gays, their behaviour, their lifestyle and I even grant anyone the right to think gay adoption might not be in the very best interest of a kid.
However, deep in my heart, I consider any person agaisnt equal legal gay rights, a bloody fascist. Never ever should a government make laws that treat people differently. If one finds homosexuality, for any reason, immoral or bad, that's fine, but please do not bring that moral opinion into legal stuff. When it comes to adoption: the natural parents can fill in a form in which they can express their preference or dislike for any type of lifestyle.
Coming back to capital punishment:
I think it is not civilised, but I do realise that is an arbitrary opinion. I also think it doesn't serve any purpose. so far, nobody has ever been able to show me fair evidence it actually helps to lowe crime figures: prison for life has the same effect: definite removal from society.
I do think, though, there are exceptions possible: if keeping the person life will endanger society, for instance: think of a movement that wants to liberate a serious offender thta is convicted for crimes against humanity.
Anoter note: I use the terms liberal and conservative as they are meant to be: A liberal loves Freedoms, and that includes economical Freedoms. A conservative simply doesn't want to change and stick to old stuff, even if it's oobsolete.
However, simply saying yes to all others is ridiculous. Most of those items need nuancated statements.
-The right for a woman to control her own body? Fair enouigh, but not when she is 6+ (the exact moment is of course arguable) months pregant, right?
-The human right to end your own painful and proven hopeless life, with professional help? Fair enough, but not without the consult of 2 or 3 professionals.
-The right to use things you like but are bad when consumed without moderation (alcohol, McDonald's food, marihuana). Fair enough, but when something becomes outright toxic (heroin), it's not any good.
-The right to have sex with whomever you want and ask money for it? Fair enough, but abuse or slave trade should be banned.
Whe it comes to gay rights, I have a stronger opinion. I fully grant people's right to dislike gays, their behaviour, their lifestyle and I even grant anyone the right to think gay adoption might not be in the very best interest of a kid.
However, deep in my heart, I consider any person agaisnt equal legal gay rights, a bloody fascist. Never ever should a government make laws that treat people differently. If one finds homosexuality, for any reason, immoral or bad, that's fine, but please do not bring that moral opinion into legal stuff. When it comes to adoption: the natural parents can fill in a form in which they can express their preference or dislike for any type of lifestyle.
Coming back to capital punishment:
I think it is not civilised, but I do realise that is an arbitrary opinion. I also think it doesn't serve any purpose. so far, nobody has ever been able to show me fair evidence it actually helps to lowe crime figures: prison for life has the same effect: definite removal from society.
I do think, though, there are exceptions possible: if keeping the person life will endanger society, for instance: think of a movement that wants to liberate a serious offender thta is convicted for crimes against humanity.
Anoter note: I use the terms liberal and conservative as they are meant to be: A liberal loves Freedoms, and that includes economical Freedoms. A conservative simply doesn't want to change and stick to old stuff, even if it's oobsolete.
