Right so killing someone because you caught them cheating with your wife is exactly the same as premeditated murder? Motive matters.
I agree you can judge
IF there was motive, but not the
TYPE of motive (as i said in my post). If i planned to kill someone because i loved them, and the other because i hate them, it makes no difference. So don't put words in my mouth please.
Well, thats a horrible argument. Lets apply the same logic to Religion! Scientology is the new state religion,
no other is allowed. But you're still free because you can be a Scientologist just like everyone else!
Your not applying the same logic, we allow gay people, just not for them to get married because marriage is a religious thing and it is for a man and a woman as it says in the bible. But the fact is, we both agree that the government should not be involved in marriages, but i think its a sin and irrelevant (ill explain in next paragraph) for two gay people to get married, therefore i believe the government should not allow it.
No marriage for infertile people then, gotcha.
Your not only putting words in my mouth (again) but your saying something way out of whack. By me saying "Two gay man cant have children" you concluded that i believe infertile people cant get married? I was simply try to explain the government reason for giving tax benefits to married people, but i agree they should not give tax benefits.
Here is my point, a gay couple is in principle can't have a child, they are irrelevant. Marriage for a gay couple is unnecessary and pointless. A man and a woman couple, in principle, can have a child.
Wonderful! That's great! I appreciate your input and have taken your opinion under advisement. HOWEVER at the point you go so far as to say that you are OK with the government enforcing your opinion under penalty of law is when I say keep your invisible friend away from my personal decisions. You are free to choose to suffer needlessly, you are not free to make me do the same.
See, this is the complicated part. If you don't have a consciousness you aren't a person. Hard to have personal freedoms if you aren't actually a person, no?
So sense children are not aware of there existence until they are about 1-2 are they not people yet? Is it ok to murder them? EDIT: after think 3-4 is probably not accurate
Life begins at conception. As soon as that life begins, it is capable of become conscious and will in time gain consciousness. You are MURDERING this life, stopping it from even becoming a human (by your definition, by mine its already a human). I know a kid who's mom was told that if she did not have an abortion, then she would die when she had this baby. She said she had no right to value her life of this babies. She had the baby. The mom died and he is alive. By your definition, the mom died for a useless clump of her own body, would you tell her son that?
Finally i ask you to please stop putting words in my mouth as you did this entire post.
