Humans - inherently racist?

[emzie]

I've never seen a sound study on penis length that demonstrated much variation in size between ethnic groups. Nor would I really expect, on average, there to be much variation. There's really not much point having a penis longer than the average aroused vagina.

 

[Disgustipated]

It's a stereotype that developed because Negroes were considered to be more beast-like than Europeans, so their base strength, stamina and vitality were thought to be higher than for European men. That included penis-sizes.

The penis-size stereotype has survived while other racial ideas have been accepted as false. Probably because it's a positive stereotype and because it is harder to measure.

As to why anyone bothered to actually investigate the stereotype? We're men. We've always been disproportionately interested in our own penises - and secretly jealous of any man who's rumored to have a bigger one...

Actually, africans are superior physically than white man. When is the last time a white man won a major marathon? How many records do white running backs in the NFL hold?

I know I sound racist, but to argue there is no differences between the races is silly. It's like saying men and women are the same when they clearly are not.

I've never seen a sound study on penis length that demonstrated much variation in size between ethnic groups. Nor would I really expect, on average, there to be much variation. There's really not much point having a penis longer than the average aroused vagina.

It's a mental thing. Most sexual arousal is mental anyways. So women who are attracted to men with large penises are more sexually aroused, and more likely to orgasm. But not all women like large penises. Other women are aroused by a man's hair or color of his eyes (my last gf was like this). And she orgasmed very easily because she was mentally aroused. Luckily I have good hair and beautiful eyes. I guess it makes up for just having an average size you know what.

 

[emzie]

Actually, africans are superior physically than white man. When is the last time a white man won a major marathon? How many records do white running backs in the NFL hold?

I know I sound racist,

No, you're going beyond just sounding.

For starters, saying "Africans are" is a bit of a generalization for a group of people more diverse than the rest of the planet put together. Put another way, a San tribesman in Namibia is more distantly related to a Kenyan marathon runner than you are to an Aboriginal Australian.

There's probably merit in saying local populations statistically do better in specific things, like Kenyans from the highlands and marathon running, and that this has a lot to do with genetics or whatnot. But when you expand that to complex athletic rolls like a halfback, you're looking at nurture not nature. Blacks are over-represented in American sports for economic / cultural reasons, not greater athletic prowess.

 

[Formaldehyde]

I've never seen a sound study on penis length that demonstrated much variation in size between ethnic groups. Nor would I really expect, on average, there to be much variation. There's really not much point having a penis longer than the average aroused vagina.

I don't how sound this particular research was, but it does seem to reasonably corroborate with countless hours watching porn in a decidedly non-empirical personal study:

 

[emzie]

I don't how sound this particular research was, but it does seem to reasonably corroborate with countless hours watching porn in a decidedly non-empirical personal study:

I'm unable to find the source of that on BMJ or in google. It'd be nice if the study was cited, not just what journal it appeared in.

edit: though I'd also point out that the vast majority of guys on that chart, regardless of race, are longer than the average aroused vagina (~5 inches). Which, as I said, a penis longer than the vagina it's in isn't doing much.

 

[Formaldehyde]

That presupposes that people are only interested in vaginal penetration and a handful of sexual positions.

I imagine that 5" figure is the size of an average vagina. And in many cases, it typically gets stretched quite a bit by childbirth.

With many women maximum length doesn't seem to matter much, while maximum girth does:

And that most women seem to prefer penises which are larger than normal...

 

[amadeus]

I think with regards to that graph, we really don't know whether that's true or not because women might have the perception that bigger = better and would rate higher than is actually physically satisfying for them.

Penn and Teller did something like this with food: they brought out food to some people and told them it was from a healthy California restaurant, then brought the same salad out to others, telling them it was from a fast food chain. They were then asked how many calories they thought the salad was: for people eating from the "healthy" restaurant, they rated it around 400, whereas people from the fast food test rated it at about 1,000 calories.

 

[Cheetah]

Actually, africans are superior physically than white man. When is the last time a white man won a major marathon? How many records do white running backs in the NFL hold?

I know I sound racist, but to argue there is no differences between the races is silly. It's like saying men and women are the same when they clearly are not.

You don't sound malevolent enough for me to label your post racist, but stupid certainly fits.

Physically superior? All groups of Africans? Even bushmen? And at everything?

I'll be the first to agree that it's stupid to expect to find no differences between the races, and I believe you know that I've argued so before, but the physical differences are far to small to validate "africans are superior physically than white man". In essence, you're just being silly.

Is it okay if I just throw up a few lists from Wikipedia?

Slavs seem to be the strongest.
Or maybe Europeans in general.
Actually, Slavs look pretty dominating.

Shall we say that it goes: Slavs are stronger than Europeans who are stronger than Africans?

Next week we'll look at how African's does not have sense of balance, cause they obviously can't ski. Just like Japanese people couldn't fly planes during WW2, cause their mothers carried them on their backs all through childhood.

I don't how sound this particular research was, but it does seem to reasonably corroborate with countless hours watching porn in a decidedly non-empirical personal study:

That presupposes that people are only interested in vaginal penetration and a handful of sexual positions.

I imagine that 5" figure is the size of an average vagina. And in many cases, it typically gets stretched quite a bit by childbirth.

With many women maximum length doesn't seem to matter much, while maximum girth does:

And that most women seem to prefer penises which are larger than normal...

Those graphs are useless, cause they say nothing at all about how the data were arrived at.

If you actually want to read on this, then I suggest that you could start here: Wikipedia: Human penis size.

While results vary across studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length with a 95% confidence interval of (10.7 cm, 19.1 cm) (or, equivalently, 4.23 in, 7.53 in). The typical girth or circumference is approximately 12.3 cm (4.85 in) when fully erect. Yet, one reputable source claims that the relaxed human penis has an average length of only 4 inches (≈10.2 cm) and diameter of 1¼ inches (≈3.2 cm) while fully erect it has an average length of 6 inches (≈15.2 cm) and diameter of 1½ inches (≈3.8 cm).[8] The mean penis size is slightly greater than the median size. Studies have not found a relation between penis size and race.

The final sentence there references: Adams, Michael V (1996). The multicultural imagination: race, color, and the unconscious. London: Routledge. p. 164. ISBN 041513837X.

I think with regards to that graph, we really don't know whether that's true or not because women might have the perception that bigger = better and would rate higher than is actually physically satisfying for them.

Penn and Teller did something like this with food: they brought out food to some people and told them it was from a healthy California restaurant, then brought the same salad out to others, telling them it was from a fast food chain. They were then asked how many calories they thought the salad was: for people eating from the "healthy" restaurant, they rated it around 400, whereas people from the fast food test rated it at about 1,000 calories.

Yeah, any kind of self-reporting, especially on this topic, is completely worthless as scientific data.

 

[Flying Pig]

Japanese people couldn't fly planes during WW2, cause their mothers carried them on their backs all through childhood.

Well, they didn't do a very good job of flying them straight, did they?

On a slightly more serious note, trying to ascribe any meaning to racial differences in physical ability after having been brought up is like trying to claim that having ginger hair makes you more or less intelligent - whatever minor effect it may have is completely obliterated by the massive influence that different aspects of someone's upbringing have. For example, in my case the fact that I grew up in a mining area, play sport and come from a military background have far more influence on my fitness than my being a white Englishman.

 

[Cheetah]

Well, they didn't do a very good job of flying them straight, did they?

On a completely somewhat related note, do you remember which British officer who said that about the Japanese in the 30s?

 

[Flying Pig]

On a completely somewhat related note, do you remember which British officer who said that about the Japanese in the 30s?

No, but it was a widely held view that Asian eyesight was too poor to allow them to effectively fly aircraft - and look what happened!

 

[Cheetah]

No, but it was a widely held view that Asian eyesight was too poor to allow them to effectively fly aircraft - and look what happened!

They hit the World Trade Center?

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Blacks are over-represented in American sports for economic / cultural reasons, not greater athletic prowess.

yes and whites score higher in academics because they are usually richer, different races are not different in any way besides skin color.

 

[LucyDuke]

yes and whites score higher in academics because they are usually richer, different races are not different in any way besides skin color.

And bone structure and predisposition to some genetic diseases.

 

[Flying Pig]

And bone structure and predisposition to some genetic diseases.

Indeed. It is stupid to say that we are all the same at birth.