I don't agree with them but....

The IRanian government, for all their other issues, is smart enough to realize if they shoot a nuke at anyone most superpowers would declare war on them. There was a reason for SALT I and II along with detente during the cold war. Nuclear weapons do not make peace. All they make is death and devestation.
From your posts, I beleive I am correct in assuming you are a christian. Wasn't Christs basic message love thy enemy? Please enlighten me as how to make 'love they enemy' become 'nuke those suckers'.

And for all of you flag waving about how we should go invade Iran to 'save us' have you ever actualy been in the military? And how are we to give them democracy after our attemps in Iraq and Afghanistan have been tepid to say the least?

Lastly, I can agree that we should at least work with the Iranian govt to limit their nuclear weapons or work to better secure them so as to minimize the chance of a terrorist group stealing them.
 
From your posts, I beleive I am correct in assuming you are a christian. Wasn't Christs basic message love thy enemy? Please enlighten me as how to make 'love they enemy' become 'nuke those suckers'.

Trust me, you don't want to open up that can of worms. You'll force yourself to ask all kinds of other questions about other contradictory biblical teachings, such as "turn the other cheek", or "thou shalt not kill", and I think we both know he'd never answer these questions.
 
Dominion does not realise the Iranians are rational people. Also if you think they can kill 8 million Americans if they got the nuke and had some crazy regime which they don't, I must ask.. Do you believe in Santa as well? Because you're on that level of crazy.

Even if Iran did get a nuke, IIRC they don't have missiles of a range long enough to hit the U.S.

Their only real target would be Israel, who has its own nuclear weapons.
 
I don't really care about the fact the Bible contradicts itself, but in its basic message. While you will always be able to find contradictory passages, I believe there are more peace and equality based statements than blood and gore statements.

While I do realize I likely won't get a straight answer out of him, I am interested in at least attempting to see if he has a logical process for arriving there.
 
I don't really care about the fact the Bible contradicts itself, but in its basic message. While you will always be able to find contradictory passages, I believe there are more peace and equality based statements than blood and gore statements.

While I do realize I likely won't get a straight answer out of him, I am interested in at least attempting to see if he has a logical process for arriving there.

I personally think that the 'staying power' of the bible owes a lot to its contradictions and ambiguity. You can justify just about anything with selected passages and still stay within its vague boundaries....
 
Still there is the rather unambiguous "Thou shalt not kill".

It doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill except for situations where it might benefit you" for a reason, no matter if you believe it's God-given or not.
 
Jesus got the death penalty though and it turned out just great, So maybe killing is ok.
 
I don't really care about the fact the Bible contradicts itself, but in its basic message. While you will always be able to find contradictory passages, I believe there are more peace and equality based statements than blood and gore statements.

While I do realize I likely won't get a straight answer out of him, I am interested in at least attempting to see if he has a logical process for arriving there.

The Bible doesn't contradict itself.

Still there is the rather unambiguous "Thou shalt not kill".

It doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill except for situations where it might benefit you" for a reason, no matter if you believe it's God-given or not.

First off, I didn't say, "We should nuke Iran," I only said, "We should nuke Iran if it was the only way to stop them from getting a nuke." That aside...

It says thou shall not murder. War is justifiable, and has a place in the Bible. They cannot be solely for aggression though. I support invading Iran to end their troublesome regime and to prevent an assault on US soil.
 
Why not let God smite them instead of nuking them?
 
Still there is the rather unambiguous "Thou shalt not kill".

It doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill except for situations where it might benefit you" for a reason, no matter if you believe it's God-given or not.

But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me (Luke 19:27)
 
Why not let God smite them instead of nuking them?

He could, or he could want us to do it (Strangely, I never said we should nuke Iran, so stop pretending I did. Next person who says I said I want to nuke Iran I don't respond to.)

Paradigm, just for fun, since your British, would your country help in Iran like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
I don't really care about the fact the Bible contradicts itself, but in its basic message. While you will always be able to find contradictory passages, I believe there are more peace and equality based statements than blood and gore statements.

While I do realize I likely won't get a straight answer out of him, I am interested in at least attempting to see if he has a logical process for arriving there.

It does matter, because if a book is supposed to be divinely inspired yet holds contradictions, you have to wonder as to the rest of its teachings. I'm not saying that without the Bible morality and ethical systems would suddenly fall apart (this is patently untrue!), mind you, so don't use that argument.
 
Of course not, don't be silly.

Fool me once...
 
Paradigm, just for fun, since your British, would your country help in Iran like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Haha, no way, seriously, you're on your own on this one, we're just gonna sit back on the sidelines and watch, while eating popcorn, as US troops are mown down by Iranian tanks.
 
Alright, now your obvious Anti-American sentiment really clouds your judgment.

Not really; the fact is, Iran actually does have real weapons, so noone, except the most moronic and simplistic of people would actually advocate a ground invasion of Iran.
I'm pretty sure the US government (or I hope to christ) are smart enough to realise this.

Iran ain't Iraq.

Don't see what the "anti-americanism" is here.
 
It says thou shall not murder. War is justifiable, and has a place in the Bible. They cannot be solely for aggression though. I support invading Iran to end their troublesome regime and to prevent an assault on US soil.
The Bible is not make-a-fish, I'm afraid. If you're the devout Christian you claim to be, you have to take the Bible at face value. And it literally says "Thou shalt not KILL". No loopholes. No exceptions.

He could, or he could want us to do it (Strangely, I never said we should nuke Iran, so stop pretending I did. Next person who says I said I want to nuke Iran I don't respond to.)
You said you would resort to nuking Iran if there's no other possibility. I could rub you a quote of yours in the face, if I weren't too tire to spend any effort on you.

And your threats are ridiculous. It's not as if you're ignoring posts that don't suit you already.
 
What about "turn the other cheek" which is about not getting revenge on your aggressor?
 
What about "turn the other cheek" which is about not getting revenge on your aggressor?

Turn the other cheek is also referring to a slap on the cheek, translation, an insult. If you insult me, I'm not supposed to insult you back.

This doesn't rule out self defense (Allowed in the old testament) and even if it ruled out personal self defense, the government would still have to protect its citizens.

A question for all of you saying that war is wrong, do ANY of you disagree with Afghanistan, because not many agree with you if that's the case...
 
Republicans only turn the other cheek if they don't ask nor tell.

EDIT: I agreed with Afghanistan, like most Europeans, but you botched it like you do always and now we have more than a thousand dead I think.
 
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