I just rolled a miracle start...
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. I ended up settling 1E on the gold, grew to happy cap and eventually expanded to 8 cities while teching towards Alpha > Currency > CoL > Cs > MC > onto a 200 AD Oxford. Libbed Steel in 450 AD, had HE in Capital and grabbed Biology in the 700 AD range, before Communism. Was first to Music and also got TGL in Capital right before I started building my University there. Later I would get NE (not in Capital)/GA powered 4 GS to bulb PP/Chemistry/SM/and Biology.
and by the time I can start making Cav most cities should be able to 3 turn build them. Games pretty much over.To win one easy immortal game maybe, but that capital could have been my best ever!
Htadus
A and L's dad
Settling on the gold to the east is the best and specially given it is a financial leader. 1 north is a decent alternative and you should get BW soon to chop and catch up the hammer loss.
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and settled 1N and settled 2 more cities before barbs became a problem and had defensive units to counter. Not that I am going to continue but this is an interesting map and crowded map. Where I stopped, I have space for about 4 more cities (3 actually since I founded another city. So Will's empire has a total of 6 cities right now including 1 captured barb city. Have iron and horses, but I am not a Deity player, this is it for me. Missed the Oracle by 3 turns. Grrr
well without the oracle and with a delayed BW start, you could be able to beat this map, possibly. from what ive read cseanny say, this should be doable.
im gonna give it a go some time soon but will listen to the true deities here and settle 1E
in my first try, i settled 1NE, delayed BW and expanded slowly and still got heavy barb pressure. could only get to 5 or 6 cities before being boxed in
im gonna give it a go some time soon but will listen to the true deities here and settle 1E
in my first try, i settled 1NE, delayed BW and expanded slowly and still got heavy barb pressure. could only get to 5 or 6 cities before being boxed in
Besides what pepe said, remember that a game on Deity is much quicker than on Monarch. Each AI starts with two cities to your one, and these two cities can produce cheaper and quicker Settlers than the player (not to mention the units and Workers that the AI starts with).
Settling on the Gold buys you a few extra turns of production and research, and, if this can nab you an extra city or two, or allow you to reach a monopoly tech before the AI, it can make all the difference to the rest of the game.
From the warmonger map?
Probably a bad idea on my part. But my thinking: Shaka doesn't just want to go to war. He needs to go to war. And he doesn't care about religion. So you need to keep him entertained until you're on Friendly terms. He'll also like Charlemagne because Charlie is a warmonger.
If you get to Alphabet first, you can control the first round of tech trading. Isolate Shaka until you are up three big techs on him (e.g. Mathematics, Alphabet, IW). These three should be enough to bribe him against someone else. For extra diplo points (and an easier bribe) be the first to declare against an AI who can only get to you through Shaka's land.
If you research Aesthetics first, you have to wait for another AI to tech Alphabet, who might trade with Shaka before you. On the other hand, Aesthetics + Alpha + a third tech should be enough to successfully bribe. The main thing is to distract him before he starts plotting against you.
Mylene is right. I put Charlie in the 'douchebag warmonger' group when really he's just a douche.
I still think that, all things being equal, Shaka is more likely to declare on the player than Charlemagne. The main thing is that he's going to declare on someone, and given that he's an AI who can be easily manipulated, you might as well manipulate.
I still think that, all things being equal, Shaka is more likely to declare on the player than Charlemagne. The main thing is that he's going to declare on someone, and given that he's an AI who can be easily manipulated, you might as well manipulate.
@ Pepe
Nope. Didn't build a single Cuir. With that sick Capital I beelined CS while backfilling with trade and made a slight detour to Music (1st) for a quicker NE than my norm, and then I hit up the Education path for a 200 AD Oxford and then began the process of WSing. Libbed Steel in 450 AD and like I said in an earlier post, I bulbed PP(1x)/Chemistry(1X)/SM(1X)/Biology in 800 AD (1x).
So my first war against Nappy was with Cannon/Mace, my 2nd war vs Etheopia was with Cannon/Mace/Lots of Cav, my 3rd war vs China was with Cannon/Mace/Lots of Cav, my 4th war vs Malinese was with Cannon/Mace/a tiny bit of Cav/Lots of Infantry/Artillery and my 5th war was vs Aztecs with Lot's of Nukes and before I could Capitulate him I won by finally grabbing land domination(had population for a long time).
Nope. Didn't build a single Cuir. With that sick Capital I beelined CS while backfilling with trade and made a slight detour to Music (1st) for a quicker NE than my norm, and then I hit up the Education path for a 200 AD Oxford and then began the process of WSing. Libbed Steel in 450 AD and like I said in an earlier post, I bulbed PP(1x)/Chemistry(1X)/SM(1X)/Biology in 800 AD (1x).
So my first war against Nappy was with Cannon/Mace, my 2nd war vs Etheopia was with Cannon/Mace/Lots of Cav, my 3rd war vs China was with Cannon/Mace/Lots of Cav, my 4th war vs Malinese was with Cannon/Mace/a tiny bit of Cav/Lots of Infantry/Artillery and my 5th war was vs Aztecs with Lot's of Nukes and before I could Capitulate him I won by finally grabbing land domination(had population for a long time).
Spoiler :
Thanks, but!....... I didn't get out 4 GS in my GA. Perhaps wording was a bit off. I started my GA after whipping infrastructure needed to power to an early Oxford. From there I "powered" my initial GS generation by starting the golden age. And remember, I had been transitioning all cities except Capital to work shops so I was finished whipping for the game, literally. The rest of the GS came quickly because I stayed in Caste indefinitely and stayed in Pacifism till I reached Liberalism.
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