I want to #$%& Chuck (MMA)

[Fifty]

Thanks for the answers. I find this MMA world rather confusing. As i understand it, MMA is only a style of fighting and there are several MMA tournaments all with his own rules. So Fedor fights in the Pride tournament only while for instance da Silva fights in both. Is it correct?

BTW I think that Fedor is the best fighter in the world. I have never seem him even near to be defeated excepting a TKO because an eyebrow cut. Well, and a combat with a huge japanesse (i think) fighter where he was near to KO due to a brutal punch, but the recovered quickly and finally won.

Fedor is DEFINITELY the best fighter in the world. Even more amazing than his win against Fujita (the near loss you talk about) was his win against Kevin Randleman. The suplex-style slam that Randleman nailed Fedor with could be called one of the hardest hits in the history of MMA. If that slam was executed against anybody but Fedor, that guy would have not only lost but been seriously injured as well. Of course, Fedor somehow managed to pull off a victory (via keylock IIRC)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1499390000238023472&q=fedor+randleman


As far as the discussion of styles, I think modern MMA has evolved beyond singular styles. Early in MMA, we saw style vs. style (and brazilian jiu-jitsu proved to be the best one-dimensional style). Nowadays, you will NOT succeed as a fighter if you are one-dimensional. Silva, for example, not only has some of the best standup in MMA but he is also a blackbelt in jiujitsu and has an exceptionally good sprawl (takedown defense). Today the style of the best fighters is a hybrid between BJJ, Muay Thai, Kickboxing (I mean k1 style by this Elta), and wrestling. Many fighters also incorporate sambo/judo/vale tudo.

 

[jonatas]

Granted there is clinchs (neck wrestling) in muay thai but it is "kick boxing" ...let me elaborate
American kick boxing (sport): is boxing + you may kick but only with your feet and with feet pads on and you must go for 5 kicks a round minimum. No kicks below the waist.

while in muay thai you may go for any sort of attack while standing up knees,elbows,fist,legs (shins or feet) and you can hit any part of the body (except the groin)

no one in MMA fights uses "regular kick boxing"

Well I'm not an expert in Muay Thai, but I separate Kickboxing from it to emphasize the "boxing" aspect which some strikers have and which I don't really associate with Muay Thai, but maybe it's just my ignorance.

 

[jonatas]

Fedor is DEFINITELY the best fighter in the world. Even more amazing than his win against Fujita (the near loss you talk about) was his win against Kevin Randleman.

I think Fujita is going to fight in the UFC too. I thought I read that somewhere.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Fedor is DEFINITELY the best fighter in the world. Even more amazing than his win against Fujita (the near loss you talk about) was his win against Kevin Randleman. The suplex-style slam that Randleman nailed Fedor with could be called one of the hardest hits in the history of MMA. If that slam was executed against anybody but Fedor, that guy would have not only lost but been seriously injured as well. Of course, Fedor somehow managed to pull off a victory (via keylock IIRC)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...or+randle man

Ouch! That should be not allowed, it is criminal. Common human beings might become paraplegic after that. Of course Fedor facial expression doesnt even change. It is obvious he is indeed some sort of experimental cyborg from the Soviet era.

 

[woodelf]

So how many Pride people will be running to the UFC if their troubles continue over there? I read that Pride was having some woes.

 

[diablodelmar]

it happens, i train in MMA. It's easily the best martial art for self defence.

 

[Elta]

Well I'm not an expert in Muay Thai, but I separate Kickboxing from it to emphasize the "boxing" aspect which some strikers have and which I don't really associate with Muay Thai, but maybe it's just my ignorance.

There is a HUGE amount of western boxing influince (spl?) on muay thai.
Especially the way they hold there arms up. The way they stand is diff. too people in thailand stand on the ball of the feet while most americans stand more in a boxing style.

There are other effective (entertaining) stand up fighting styles to watch too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancratium Bas Rutten did that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bas_Rutten it is bare knucle kick boxing and allthou there is a Pancratium style no one uses it except greek fighters, and even then it looks like a cross between muay thai and boxing.

I could go on and on with the styles but I'll admit in K-1 even the muay thai fighters uses diff. types of stances. I just don't want people getting muay thai confused with kickboxing (full contact karate) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_contact_karate
....you shouldn'thave to look like the michlen man to fight.

 

[Fifty]

I just had a realization of exactly how hard of a year Silva has before him:

he now faces Cro-Cop next in the OWGP. After that (if he wins) he would face the winner of Barnett/Noguiera. Then he comes here and fights Liddell. If he were to win the OWGP, he would then have to fight FEDOR. Soon after he would need to defend his Pride middleweight belt against Rogerio Noguiera.

So as far as potential fights go, and assuming he keeps winning:

1. Cro-Cop
2. Barnett or Noguiera
3. Liddell
4. Fedor
5. Rogerio Noguiera


From that list it is easy to see that Chuck Liddell is the LEAST of Silva's worries these days!!!!