aimeeandbeatles
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Well if Facebook was a software instead of an online service it'd be decried as "spyware".........
If you value privacy on Social media?
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Abaddon
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That doesn't even make sense.
People who decry Facebook are those who do not have the "normal" social life that its millions and millions of users have, and find it an almost essential part of daily life.
I am happy to trade whatever pretence of privacy my internet use may have for the convenience of Facebook. This works both ways as I find facebook very useful, and I do not consider the information it takes as costly to me.
People who decry Facebook are those who do not have the "normal" social life that its millions and millions of users have, and find it an almost essential part of daily life.
I am happy to trade whatever pretence of privacy my internet use may have for the convenience of Facebook. This works both ways as I find facebook very useful, and I do not consider the information it takes as costly to me.
aimeeandbeatles
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So, arguments are invalid because I'm a loner?
Great ad hominem.
Great ad hominem.
Abaddon
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Well Facebook is for social interaction.. if you don't need that, then you are hardly going to value its services compared to someone who does?
An I didn't imply you are a loner. My gran doesn't have a facebook account, neither does my Dad.. neither are loners..
This is why I put "hypens" around the word normal.
An I didn't imply you are a loner. My gran doesn't have a facebook account, neither does my Dad.. neither are loners..
This is why I put "hypens" around the word normal.
There are people that decry Facebook's privacy "issues" even while using it daily. One doesn't have to be socially "abnormal" in order to weigh privacy more heavily than, say, someone abnormally extroverted such as yourself.
Abaddon
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Perhaps. It just seems an incredibly insignificant thing to get in such a flap about to me :/
I use Facebook, but only out of necessity due to everyone else being on there. I keep very limited info on there, especially due to their real name policy. The site is a UI disaster, and their implementation of putting "Like" on every website is a gaping security hole that they refuse to fix (clickjacking).
And please, let's drop the "nothing to hide" argument. Some people do have things to hide.
(And I'm rather amused at the idea of equating having a social life, with having to be posting on the Internet - maybe those other people are actually out there being sociable with their friends, you know, in person...)
I have come across some pages that now only allow comments via a Facebook ID (with the bizarre behaviour that logging out there then logs you out of Facebook - very annoying, and ill thought out UI behaviour).
Did you mean "to assume your life is constantly monitored"? (I mean, if you're saying he is constantly monitored, you seem to be in agreement with him.)
And please, let's drop the "nothing to hide" argument. Some people do have things to hide.
(And I'm rather amused at the idea of equating having a social life, with having to be posting on the Internet - maybe those other people are actually out there being sociable with their friends, you know, in person...)
I agree with this, there is a danger of them creating a vast walled garden.
I have come across some pages that now only allow comments via a Facebook ID (with the bizarre behaviour that logging out there then logs you out of Facebook - very annoying, and ill thought out UI behaviour).
Edit: nevermind
Mise
isle of lucy
I don't understand why people wouldn't want to be notified of products and services that they would find useful. We get advertised at constantly - why wouldn't I want those adverts to be tailored to my own individual tastes? Why would I not want to know what things my friends would recommend? I take recommendations from my friends all the time. I just don't see how it's not in my interests to let Facebook, Google, et al know more about me, my tastes, my interests, and my friends.
In otherwords, even if you don't use Facebook all the time, you should still want advertisers to know more about you, so that you get served adverts you actually want to receive, instead of adverts that annoy the crap out of you.
In otherwords, even if you don't use Facebook all the time, you should still want advertisers to know more about you, so that you get served adverts you actually want to receive, instead of adverts that annoy the crap out of you.
aimeeandbeatles
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Or, the third option -- you use Adblock so it doesn't matter anyways that the ads are non-relevent.
Mise
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You're missing the point. I want relevent adverts. Everybody should want to be told what restaurants are good in your local area, or that Umberto Eco's new book is now on Amazon, or that this jacket from H&M looks really awesome on skinny 5'8" Indian guys (and it's on sale!!!). I want those kinds of adverts.
I don't get advertised at constantly.
I don't have ads on my internet, I don't watch tv or listen to radio with ads, there aren't billboards and such in my neighborhood.
Mise
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You're missing out man.
aimeeandbeatles
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What would I miss out on, anyways? Ticket-scalping sites illegally selling overpriced tickets to a show I can't go to anyways? News about an album I already know about? Stuff that I can't afford and would have no interest in buying anyways?
No thanks
No thanks
Abaddon
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No, I meant what I said. We are constantly monitored, so why get so picky about this website?
Nonsense. Is having a mobile phone inhibitory to having a social life? NO. Neither is using the internet to help organise your social life. Facebook is yet another way to communicate, organise, socialise, event. Heck, right now I am chatting to a dozen different friends, writing on others walls and setting up events for the future (Halloween!)
Spending hour upon hour on the internet is indeed detrimental to a social life. But spending some time on facebook is quite the opposite.
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So Google and Facebook are your friends?
Do tell us, are all your other friends also taking money from companies to push products on you? Do all your friends operate under an obligation to profit from you? If so, then I'm truly sorry for you!
Really, can't you see anything wrong with the argument you presented for trusting those companies?!
Mise
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Where did I say that those companies were my friends?
You would be advertised those things if you let advertisers know that you were interested in those things.
aimeeandbeatles
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Nobody responded to my post 
Anyways I decided to disable ads on gmail to see what happen. After careful analysis of keywords in my emails, it came up with these:
The only one I might be interested in is the newspaper archive site ... Which I know about already. Whoops! But what would I do with vehicles (I can't drive) or "sdf asdfsdf asdfasdf fsd sdff 78 asdf"? The only thing about cars recently is a line in an email describing my experience with whole milk and pondering the use of fart gas for automobile fuel.
Alaska...? Toothpaste?
Anyways I decided to disable ads on gmail to see what happen. After careful analysis of keywords in my emails, it came up with these:
Spoiler :
The only one I might be interested in is the newspaper archive site ... Which I know about already. Whoops! But what would I do with vehicles (I can't drive) or "sdf asdfsdf asdfasdf fsd sdff 78 asdf"? The only thing about cars recently is a line in an email describing my experience with whole milk and pondering the use of fart gas for automobile fuel.
Spoiler :
Alaska...? Toothpaste?
Mise
isle of lucy
Gmail has never given me decent adverts. Google ads are usually better. E.g. the ad on the top of CFC right now is pretty good... It's an ad for cheap overseas money transfer, which is useful to me because I send a lot of money to relatives in Guyana and the USA.
You won't get good adverts unless you turn adblock off. And you won't get good adverts immediately; after a few months of general web browsing, you start to notice that you ads are no longer completely ******** but are actually pretty useful. I can't remember the last time I got an advert for toothpaste, for example.
You won't get good adverts unless you turn adblock off. And you won't get good adverts immediately; after a few months of general web browsing, you start to notice that you ads are no longer completely ******** but are actually pretty useful. I can't remember the last time I got an advert for toothpaste, for example.
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