Imperium Offtopicum V

[Mathalamus]

Implied here that since I tell you to do something, you can tell me to do something, hence we are equals in your eyes.

we arent. im clearly the weaker person. but it is will within my abiltiies to ask you not to expand into turkey (and only turkey, mind you) while you prevented me from expanding to everything south of Rhodes and Crete.

think about it. you banned me from everything south of Cyprus and Rhodes, i ban you from turkey only.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Mathalamus, why don't you forge an alliance with Morea,the Russians and say no to the pope

 

[Reiser]

Spending:
Civilian Tech: Invest 14, 25/25, Civilian Tech Level II.
Army: Invest 2, 2/20.
Um, guys, did you know you could actually roleplay the discovering of the tech? And since all of you didn't do it I will.
The people have discovered the trade difference for having many friendly nations near them. New trade routes give 1 gold to income.
Income: 24g/turn, with the new claims

Diplomacy:
To: The Kingdom of Sweden
From: die Monarchie in Deutschland
Do you wish, after taking all of Scandinavia, to start a European colony near my land? Also, do you want Denmark?

Religion:
Official: Roman Catholic
Majority: Roman Catholic
Relationship with Pope: Extremely Faithful

War:
Armies: 0
Navies: 0

Claims:
New claims.

 

[Mathalamus]

Mathalamus, why don't you forge an alliance with Morea,the Russians and say no to the pope

wont happen, as both of these states will not listen to me.

EDIT: and the pope is too powerful to stick a middle finger at this time.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

wont happen, as both of these states will not listen to me.

Russian's u cant count on them

EDIT: Why dont you convert to Islam or Catholic

 

[ilduce349]

Spending all into Civic
Claims

Spoiler :

 

[Mathalamus]

Russian's u cant count on them

EDIT: Why dont you convert to Islam or Catholic

the Islams are too small (5% as of now, mostly in the southeast) and coverting to Catholicism will spark widespread revolts.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

the Islams are too small (5% as of now, mostly in the southeast) and coverting to Catholicism will spark widespread revolts.

Lets be honest
Your gone

 

[Mathalamus]

Lets be honest
Your gone

i joined the alliance of free nations. im not that screwed.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

i joined the alliance of free nations. im not that screwed.

Oh thats a relief, your good then you can survive but dont tinker with the pope

 

[Cull]

They aren't alliance in game sense. You have to make those the old-fashioned way, one at a time.

And how can China, Japan, a US nation, and another China help someone in Turkey?

 

[Reiser]

the Islams are too small (5% as of now, mostly in the southeast) and coverting to Catholicism will spark widespread revolts.

If you do not convert you will have no allies. Japan and the Chinas are half a world away.
Joining the free religion alliance does not grant you any help, as that is not a casus belli as Joecoolyo said. Rather, it gives us all Catholics and Moslims a casus belli toward you.

 

[ilduce349]

Is tech trading allowed?

Also I just signed an alliance with Math the 'old fashion' way. We have no intention of starting a religious war, but we want to make sure that Byzantium has the protection of Xi'an.

 

[Cull]

Lolwut. NO.

 

[Mathalamus]

If you do not convert you will have no allies. Japan and the Chinas are half a world away.
Joining the free religion alliance does not grant you any help, as that is not a casus belli as Joecoolyo said. Rather, it gives us all Catholics and Moslims a casus belli toward you.

that is if they remain intolerant of every other view of life. i think im the only tolerant nation in Europe... historical accuracy be damned.

 

[ilduce349]

that is if they remain intolerant of every other view of life. i think im the only tolerant nation in Europe

Emperor Barabas made the right choice, I hope he sets the standard of freedom for all of Europe.

 

[flamingzaroc121]

The Tribal Kingdom of South Africa

Undisturbed by the bickering in the north, South Africa continues it's path.

Spending: (according to Joe, this is my first turn of spending)
11 in civilian (11/25) 0 in military (0/25)

Claims

Spoiler :

Diplomacy: Accepts DP with Nile Empire

 

[Link]

Emperor Barabas made the right choice, I hope he sets the standard of freedom for all of Europe.

No, he's only done this bc he needed allies. He tried to proclaim himself leader of the Orthodox faith.

 

[Mathalamus]

No, he's only done this bc he needed allies. He tried to proclaim himself leader of the Orthodox faith.

do not assume that you know me. that goes for everyone else too.

i was content to be an isolationist, but then i realized that the pope can pick on his fellow Christians and destroy the Ancient Eastern Roman empire, so i chose to join the free religion alliance.

 

[Link]

do not assume that you know me. that goes for everyone else too.

i was content to be an isolationist, but then i realized that the pope can pick on his fellow Christians and destroy the Ancient Eastern Roman empire, so i chose to join the free religion alliance.

Good for you to finally call Byzantine by the correct name