VM: Thank you! Thank you! Today we have two guests, one of our fond UAR and the other from the plate smashing land of the Platonic Republic! Hence we will first welcome Yorgos Verga from the Platonic Republic, regarded as one of the founders of the Republic who has a reputation as a side figure in the Philosopher Council.
From the United Arab Republic is the Minster of Information; the a genius both in politics and comedy Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf!
Now we will go round with questions with both our guests and have them express their opinion. Hopefully the charming crowd will not go in uproar tonight, so let us begin with a simple question; the Olympics have been gaining attention with the Platonic Republic's plan to rebuild but with a war with Japan, a upcoming conflict over Thessalonica and debates on the very nature of what critics call a totalitarian government is the Platonic Republic suitable to host the games and it is the right moment to host with Vietnam in the case? And when is the date anyway?
Mr al-Sahhaf: what is your view on the matter?
AS: First of all, thank you, Victor, for allowing me the opportunity to correct many of the infidel lies and deceit circulating in the Mediterranean today. To answer your first question, I must first say, you are asking too many questions at once. It is impossible to provide a proper response when you pile on the topics with no room to manoeuvre. What is most important? The Olympics? Thessaloniki? You must prioritize!
VM: Forgive me... I have been on a long holiday and hence need to get my steam up and running. Anyway: do you think it is good for the Games to be coming when the hosts are involved in so many conflicts?
AS: What is this talk of the games "coming"? Nothing has been organized! The Olympic Committee has not settled upon the sports to be performed, the venue for the games remains speculative, no date for its occurrence has been settled upon... It is a waste of time to discuss the impact of the Olympics when they remain a purely hypothetical venture.
VM: Err... true... Well I guess failure to plan is planning to fail is what Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf proclaims. So what is your view on the matter Yorgos?
YV: I agree the disorganisation has hindered the effort. The Council have been too single minded in looking at the Vietnamese case and thinking their construction would set. We should have committed more to the IOC.
VM: And the peace thing in troubled times?
YV: The Platonic Republic, according to my peers, have signed peace with Japan and they argue the Thessaloniki case as a "domestic occurrence" which would focus in cases.
VM: Err right. What is your view on Thessaloniki o Mr al-Sahhaf? How would it impact the games? Is it just a "domestic occurrence" as Verge claims the Philosopher Council of the Platonic Republic claims? Would the scenario likely to end rosily for the Greeks and the people of Thessalonik?
AS: The Thessalonian revolt is symptomatic of hardening resistance to Athens' despotic government throughout the region. It is a cry for liberation from a foreign-imposed caste system that strips the populace of its self-determination. They recognize that Athens' tired rhetoric of "order" and "justice" is a paper-thin veil to excuse the subjugation of other cultures to a tyrannical regime. We are seeing the same cries out outrage in Libya at this moment.
The only just solution is for Greece to recognize Thessalonian independence. It had no right to the territory in the first place: it was bought from Rome, traded like a cow at the marketplace. But the Thessalonians refuse to be treated like cattle and slaughtered at will. It is appalling that Athens and Constantinople continue to ignore this fact.
VM: Of course. What is your reaction to this?
YV: Would the Arabians have it ok if, say, a group of violent thugs turned Alexandria "independent," causing disorder and questioning their vision of justice? The government of the Platonic Republic is committed to ensure order. We have envisioned the Greek peoples under a just society, to set in a unity of harmony...
VM: Is attacking a city harmonic?
YV: Is attacking a attacking disorderly? We are simply stomping out criminals set in trying to dominate Thessaloniki. The people have been misdirected by cunning anarchists, keen to hinder the just society of the Platonic Republic. Our caste system is set in harmony and in total absolutism to justice we are fit to accept Rome's willingness to allow Thessaloniki to return to the country that the city belong to. It is tragic that agents of chaos and injustice have vowed against such harmony."
VM: Err... I... see... Forgive me for this... I would like Mr al-Sahhaf's reply to that.
AS: You see, always Athens holds the popular will in contempt. Who are these thugs. these criminals? They have drafted their own constitution, so they must be not only literate, but educated. If the Platonic caste is so harmonious as Mr. Verga claims, the revolt would not have happened. That it did is clear evidence that his order does not work.
YV: Are you questioning the teachings of Plato?!
VM: Now! Now! We want to be civil, yes? Well I guess I will allow Verge to reply in a hopefully civil tone to Mr al-Sahhaf's critique.
YV: What al-Sahhaf should have mentioned was that this operates came before our holding. Clearly the traitors who mislead the people of Thessaloniki have also mislead the Arabians. With our Roman and Holy Roman support we have the means to ensure classically our sovereignty over the city. The main body of the people... the Productive Caste... are meant to follow the virtue of moderation, meaning they should the courage of the Protective Caste and observe the wisdom of the supreme Governing Caste. There is no order more just than this. If the insurgent terrorists who currently hold members of our society at hostage think they can be protected under their declaration of "independence" then it is our duty to teach them the sovereign power that the Platonic Republic has over its core realm, Greece. By Plato we must not allow the scoundrels to have grounding!
VM: Oh... okeydokey. Err I might have a third response session on this question due the viewing of it and the audience do what to know; is soverieng power and national unity a reason to crack down on Thessaloniki?
YV: Yes it is by Plato!
VM: I was talking to al-Sahhaf! Err... what is your reply Mr al-Sahhaf to Mr Verge's commitment to the idea of a Thessaloniki under Platonic Republican sovereignty? This will be the last reply since we have to move on to other questions...
AS: Mr. Verga says that his government is acting in defence of society, but whose society? The Thessalonians clearly feel they do not belong to Greek or Roman society, yet Athens insists on forcing their compliance. Mr. Verga claims Greek sovereignty is just; Thessalonians insist self-rule is just. It is an irreconcilable difference that Greece's rigid caste system can never address.
VM: What has been said has been said and clear on the opinions towards the Thessalonian affair. Now we will direct a new question; the Rosemary. France (my homeland; no, no, I left before the regime could touch me) is recently in a new crisis over claims that, as we know the ship attack had been blamed on Japan and a John Doe relation to a possible third party, especially on the issue of the atomic material present. Is this just an name blame that is most horrifically based over a serious attack or is there merit to the accusations? What should we done to help find out the truth regarding the attack? How does the thoughts regarding "who done it?" harm or benefit the operates of the investigation? Can justice be served? Yorgos Verge: so what is your view on the matter?
YV: Well, our part in blaming Japan was a... case filled by our then antagonism towards them at the time, despite the death of Japanese servicemen and the atomic materials remaining there instead of being removed. It, we must confess, were not the most wise of policies and we will learn from the mistakes in future scenarios. No we must learn to follow the path of justice. That said we still open the idea of a power sacrificing their own populace for political gain, which the Platonic Republic will not conduct for our policy towards Thessaloniki will aim to avoid civilian casualties and...
VM: You are answering the Rosemary questions as oppose to the previous Thessaloniki questions, yes? How does Thessaloniki answer the issue of ship wrecks, which include members of my country dead?
YV: To counter misrepresentation of the Platonic Republic. Anyway the investigation will have to account all possibilities and to look beyond the wall of what is there and see what should be there along with what is really there.
VM: Ok. I ask al-Sahhaf his observations of the matter now: what should be done?
AS: A full investigation encompassing all afflicted parties. This incident is extremely worrying indeed, and it is all the greater shame that Japanese obstinacy helped to worsen global divisions at the precise moment the international community needed to band together.
VM: Well... we have a agreement. Now we must relate to the case of Vietnam; with the defeat of Hanoi, the Platonic withdrawal from Vietnam, the Peacekeeper attack scandal, the UN purposed Sanction against Japan and Japan eagerness to... cool relations with its peers... we must ask about the future. Combined with the apology by Japan I will ask al-Sahhaf; what is your view on the whole situation in Vietnam? Will the UAR and others be able to find a solution? Do you think the Japanese response genuine?
AS: There is always a solution. It is simply a question of whether it is the right solution. Jerusalem's position has not changed: the only acceptable outcome is the relinquishment of the Japan Controlled Zone to UNVIFOR and the establishment of a unified, independent Vietnamese state. But Japan is fighting tooth and nail to prevent this. It is repeating the same process used in China: military annexation and the misappropriation of labour and resources of its imperial periphery to maintain the decadent lifestyle of its core. Tokyo gives no regard, no regard at all, to the well-being of Vietnamese citizens, except to the extent that they can fuel the Japanese economy.
But the Japanese know they are on the losing side. These recent attempts to mend relations are evidence that the imperialist dogs are frightened, and now they are scrambling to salvage their reputation in a bid to stave off their inevitable ostracism. Is Japan sincere? Of course not: how can we honestly believe that the murder of aid workers is an accident when Tokyo has made it clear that it treats the United Nations as an enemy? We have mountains of evidence that shows its policy in Vietnam is to shoot first, and I am greatly aggrieved that the government of Ireland, whose citizens were the victims of this blatant aggression, has been deceived by these lies.
I wish to read a communiqué Jerusalem received yesterday from the Japanese government:
Japan has no wish to make UAR it's [sic] enemy. Japan has witnessed the hostility of UAR ever since it begun it's [sic] peacekeeping operations in China. Japan believes that UAR has misunderstood us. We wish for peace and friendship between our two countries. Japan has also no wish to invade UNVIFOR territory or expand any more in Indo-China. Japan is willing to make certain non territorial concessions to UAR if UAR accepts the Empire of Vietnam and stop it's hostile rhetoric against Japan. Japan is a friend of peace and has not once attacked UAR. More than once, you have called us imperialists, evil and have made racist comments against us, but we always reply with kind words and offers of friendship. We just do not understand why UAR refuses to accept the friendship of Japan.
They come to Vietnam like a band of brigands to loot and enslave the people, and yet
we are the aggressors? They claim they are friendly, yet look at the way they use every opportunity to misframe our intent! And what is this nonsense about racism? Where has the Republic ever slandered the Japanese people? It is a very dangerous attitude to equate the ruling party with the nation entire they way that Tokyo does, for this denies legitimate criticism of its insidious methods.
This is what the letter says: "We wish to make amends, but we will not address the grievances." How can one take such a sentiment seriously? Jerusalem issued a response reiterating our stance on Vietnam, and Japan replied with thinly-veiled threats. I ask you: Is that the behaviour of a government that truly desires peace?
VM: Beware of intent in ones message. Is Japan having a agenda behind its 'confessions?' What is the Platonic policy on this Mr Verge?
YV: In light of our recent peace deal we have to... be careful in what we say. While we stand for the idea of a independent Vietnam, we hoped under the order and security that the warlords that have been removed would have given, we are never the less wanting to... keep quite on much of the issue due to the returning of our Protective Caste members from the prison camps in China. I can say off the record though that our trade relations opposing to the sanctions against Japan are all set in ensuring a realist peace to help the Platonic Republic rethink its... global strategies.
Takis Papadakis has stated that while our commitment to Vietnam was indeed for justice we fear we may, after the fall of the warlords, have got too much injury to commit to the issue. If a stance was to take fully against Japan then it would have to, I have to fear, be by the sword, for beyond it is not peace but another way to slay. Still we suggest Tokyo repents for the UN aids slaughtered if they want to restore their prestige they lost during the occurrence. That said once we have recovered we can consider our next response to the situation, although we will possible be working with the UNVIFOR as oppose to being part of it unless the Platonic Republic is deemed itself able or in its interest to recommit.
VM: Platonic policy of peace thanks but wait and see too? It appears we have both two notable policies, while it is clear Mr Verge is... "strained" on what he can say at the moment. So... we sure enjoy the lighting in this room but lantern light is all expensive now that the oil have dried up. My next question is about not only the future of energy but of Gaia. I will ask about the energy policies after oil, what to do with the remaining oil, the nuclear question and whether renewables have been invested enough into or need more funding drastically. I will let al-Sahhaf first express his opinion of this... NOW!
AS: The first wave of the oil crisis has been felt for decades now as global petroleum prices have skyrocketed. Yet it was still not enough to deter consumption rates, which resembled a pack of rabid businessmen bludgeoning each other for the last dollar on the table; indeed, such was the motivation for Greece's recent expansion into eastern Libya. Nations that do not have a plan already in place to transition to alternative energy sources will undergo a second crisis when their strategic reserves dry up. Fortunately, the United Arab Republic has not been deluded by its own oil wealth, and Jerusalem has adopted a strategy first developed by Egypt prior to unification that combines both renewable energy sources and synthetic fuels such as ethanol. In particular, the past ten years has seen the rapid expansion of solar farms in the Libyan Desert, while special efforts have been taken to restore operation to the Aswan Dam in advance of the Republic regaining control of the region. We have also been importing foreign algae-based ethanol technology to provide an efficient alternative fuel source for older engine systems.
VM: Those who do not plan are planning for defeat. Indeed we must ask the Platonic Republic's Verge, so desperate for the last drops of the so called "black gold" in Libya for what their "Post-Oil Plan" be?
YV: The issue is one we had attempted to brew consolidation for... our plans in Libya was for plastics material if anything else. We have recently been in talks with our friends in Constantinople. Emperor Andreas has, in wisdom, taken to help Platonic development in the use of Thorium for energy production. We do not however agree in focusing on biofuels but have indeed have set to hydrogen engines. We had also attempted to access uranium but are currently unable to acquire the mineral. As for Libya's initial days; we had acquired Benghazi thanks in part to Oussama Mihayshi and Zied Al Borki, who share like I, Andreas Hatzis, Eleni Agne, Olympia Zeno and Theophylaktos Rodia the privilege of being classed as founders of the Platonic Republic. They help our struggle to establish our order and in turn we helped them secure Benghazi, which came in turn to be part of our glorious and just regime. Still we admire hydrogen and will eager to establish proper renewable protocols backed by the atomic sector.
VM: I see. Now for the last topic of the day... relationship between the United Arab Republic and the Platonic Republic are... not exactly the most lovely of relations. Both nations had close link during the early days of both peacekeeping efforts in Vietnam and their part in the Mediterranean Economic, Commerce and Trace Union. Never the less the rather... "slightly" fanatical focus by the Platonic Republic regarding the Council of Hanoi against Japan had cracked relations between both Greece and the UAR. With the Platonic calling the UAR "cowardly" and the UAR seeing the Platonics as making the situation worse in Vietnam by a rather fanatical aggression which saw the Platonic Republic "retired" from the United Nations Vietnam Intervention Force. Relations have let to cool, so here is a chance between two neighbours to... be happy to each other. Yorgos Verge; I give you the honour of first replying to the following: "so what is your view on the matter?"
YV: I apologise for the... temper of what should have been a kept reasonable Philosopher Council. Even we have our... moments. I am afraid our stance in the time was a moment of... nationalistic pride of... "us vs. them" against Japan, combine with both our scepticism towards Texarkana's democratisation vision, which we feared would result in a worse scenario by denying the elitist structure needed to ensure a just and well managed society. One cannot expect anyone to be wise and may only the wisest be in charge at the peril of the nation! Baring that a authoritarian regime, such as the warlords vision, would have ensured more order than what could come out of the badness of democracy. Never the less... the issue was then.
VM: What is now?
YV: Now is of... reflection. I... we are... sorry for the... outbursts against you. Combined with frustration of being denied our position in UNVIFOR and the passion that should have not blinded us most unjustly after Japan attacked the warlords... I am sorry. We did not mean to get all hot headed with our friends the United Arab Republic and hence we must return to the reasoning that we strive for. Although some of my fellow councillors are still... crippled with the bitterness I will ensure you through my status as a founder that Takis Papadakis, who should be the best of us, must learn to be the best or be replaced. Truth be... his entry came from his popularity with the populace than his wisdom alone. We may have... make a miscalculation, like how we should have used the term "prison labour" as oppose to stating slavery as a punishment in itself openly. We... open to UAR if they... open to us. May we both lead M.E.C.T.U to... a golden dawn and see peace restored. Our differences and disagreements should not ruin a possible friendship most... just.
VM: I... see. To Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf I must now ask, as well as ask him in reply to the Platonic Republic, indeed most desirably: "so what is your view on the matter?"
AS: Reconciling relations between Athens and Jerusalem will be difficult, because the Greek government has proven itself impulsive, and thus, untrustworthy. It was willing to jeopardize UNVIFOR in pursuit of an ill-advised vendetta against Japan, and at the first sign of trouble it reversed its policy and adopted a platform of appeasement. How can we expect Athens to uphold an agreement when an administration that so prides itself on the supremacy of reason has displayed anything but? Rapprochement is not impossible, but Athens will need to make a considerable effort to regain the confidence of the international community.
YV: Our justice will set a will to ensure relations that are of grander trusting.
VM: I am afraid that is all we have time for folks! Beginning and ending with notes that the Platonic Republic and the United Arab Republic are... in need of some friendship? Well I can say that I hope the best for the two Republics! I thank Yergos Verge and Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf for taking their time to come here today to debate and I thank the audience for their viewing of the debate. Remember to comment on our forums as, till next time, I ask: "so what is your view on the matter?"
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